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LCU TOE question

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I tried searching for this in the manual but could not find it. In a land units TOE sometimes there is a + symbol in front of a device and sometimes a symbol that looks like a w. What do these stand for?

Also, a question related to allied air groups: If an allied air group is disbanded, is that a permanent change or will it reappear after a while? I'm especially interested to know this in context of the air groups stationed in the Philipines. Is there a way to save them? If so, is there any point in doing so?
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Not sure what you are talking about - there is no + in front of an item in the ToE screen view. There can be one after the number of devices for each item in the actual equipment held (which is not the TOE). Can you post a screenshot?
The w you refer to is likely an asterisk *. Game text resolution and placement makes them look like a w.
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Sorry for the ambiguity. Yes, I meant after. What do both of these symbols mean?
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Som what do the plus sign and the asterisk stand for?
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The plus sign means there are some of these devices in the pools. The asterisk probably indicates an upgraded item is available. There are a lot of variables that affect how soon replacements or upgrades happen. See the manual on this.
You must put an LCU in Rest mode to get it to change its TOE if a new one is available.
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Ok, thanks. Do you have an answer to the second part of my original question? I'll paste it below:

Also, a question related to allied air groups: If an allied air group is disbanded, is that a permanent change or will it reappear after a while? I'm especially interested to know this in context of the air groups stationed in the Philipines. Is there a way to save them? If so, is there any point in doing so?

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Disbanding/withdrawing is more complicated than it appears on the surface.

First you do not have to remove any unit from the game BUT it costs an horrendous amount of PPs not too.

Below is the nitty gritty but there's more here https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 3&t=396274

Air Unit Withdrawals or Disbandments (5.1.4.3)(7.2.2)
Collectively all are removals from the game.
The basic idea was a disbanded unit leaves the game, a withdrawn unit comes back later. Wish it was as simple as that
as many units can do both!
Some are scheduled by historical circumstances, others by choice due to the game situation, some return, some don’t,
some remove pilots, some don’t, some are affected by removing early, some not. Sometimes you can withdraw when
you should be disbanding and vice versa. It can get confusing, hopefully this helps.
Generally:
• You can voluntarily withdraw or disband most air units at any time.
• Air units (apart from fragments) assigned to ships at the start of any scenario are not allowed to disband even
if transferred to land. This does not affect fragment nor any air unit assigned to operate on land that is
transferred to a ship. They can still withdraw.
• You cannot disband a unit if it has an active detachment. Note: Detachment are only present at the start of
any scenario, you cannot create them during game play.
• If the base has less than 20K supply all aircraft are lost indicated by the red withdraw and disband button.
• Air units returning as reinforcements come back in their National Home Base with what it left with in terms of
aircraft and pilots.
• Returning air units lose any Perm restricted [R] status they may have had when leaving unless the scenario
specifically keeps them. If this did not happen all returning air units would be stuck in their National Home
Base and any location attached to it.
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Ok, thanks a lot
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When disbanding a unit I often get a pop-up asking if I want the unit to come back in 120 days Y/N? If I have done the disbandment so that a Detachment becomes part of the Main unit of the same number, I answer No because I am consolidating the unit and don't wish to have detachments again. Sometimes I disband units like the B-10 bomber unit at Clark Field to get their pilots for other units and get rid of an ineffective bomber type that does not get additional bombers to fill out a squadron.
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Ok, thanks a lot
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