The new improved 8.1 oob thread

[BulletMagnet]

I have suggested this so many times... It would save so much hassle instead of looking through all the oob's.

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Right now there are German units in the Spanish, Italian, Belgian, Norwegian, Czechoslovakian, OOB's and I may have missed one or two! IMHO it would be better to dedicate on of these less full OOB's (Nor., CZ.) to the early War years of the German OOB. I think it's an idea whose time has come.

[Renaud]

I prefer the idea of several German OOB's as it's not only the weapons and units that changed, but the whole organisation.

I can assure you it's impossible to concentrate all formations for 1930-1945 in one OOB, I tried ! [8D]

[Kevin E. Duguay]

I agree!

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Dear sirs;

While playing a game the other day I noticed that when my rocket armed Mustangs were comming in to attack a German tank platoon that the Pz II L's were able to fire at the fighters. I belive that this is wrong. The gun on the Pz II L had a elevation of -9 to +18 degrees. This would not allow for AA fire. The propper gun is the KwK38 L55 but not in the Hangelafette (swinging mount). This mount was only used on late modle SdKfz 222 armored cars and SdKfz 234/1 armored cars where the mount could be used to it's full advantage due to the open top turrets on these vehicles.

Thank you and, good day![;)]

[RockinHarry]

ORIGINAL: Renaud

ORIGINAL: Kevin E. Duguay

As you may know the German OOB is filled to capacity.

What about creating a 2 German OOB's, say one for 1930-41 and the other for 1942-49 ? It could work just in the same way as the French OOB and it would solve so many problems...

The idea is as nice as it´s not new! Splitting of french/free french OOB in SPWAW is hardcoded. It´s more than unlikely that the SPWAW code once more again will be changed and any new features added...unfortunately.[:(]

[Renaud]

ORIGINAL: RockinHarry

The idea is as nice as it´s not new! Splitting of french/free french OOB in SPWAW is hardcoded. It´s more than unlikely that the SPWAW code once more again will be changed and any new features added...unfortunately.[:(]

Too bad for long campaigns... But you can still have 2 German OOB's and easily change between the two according to the period you're playing.

[Wild Bill]

Any game has limitations. Even with that thought in mind, this game never ceases to amaze me with its versatility!

WB

[RockinHarry]

ORIGINAL: Renaud

ORIGINAL: RockinHarry

The idea is as nice as it´s not new! Splitting of french/free french OOB in SPWAW is hardcoded. It´s more than unlikely that the SPWAW code once more again will be changed and any new features added...unfortunately.[:(]

Too bad for long campaigns... But you can still have 2 German OOB's and easily change between the two according to the period you're playing.

Yes, off course that´s true! I rather meant that this feature most likely wont be supported (or coded) by MatrixGames in the future. I know of a split SPWAW german OOB by KlausMB (Klaus Mueller Buschbaum) which is just great![8D] He already did similar stuff for the camo SP2WW2 game in the past and it included a split russian OOB as well.

Modders are most likely now waiting in their starting holes.....(waiting for V8.2 realease)[:D]

[Irsmert]

Unit number 117 of the USMC Oob, 105mm Howitzer, is available from Dec. 1949 to 1949. But the offboard variant of this same arilery piece (#123 105mm How Bty) is available from Aug 1942-1949.This seems to me to be a rather apparent error [X(] (once it's found). Please fix this or explain to my why this makes sense. [:'(]

Edit: Oh, and yes I changed it in my personal Oob.

[KG Erwin]

This is another one of those scenario designer units. This is an onboard unit, which in SPWaW terms is usually not part of the core force purchases.
In game play, the ubiquitous 105 is available as off-map arty in both battery or battalion size for the USMC from August 1942 onwards. I left this as is for 8.2.
The 155's are treated a little differently. These heavy batteries were not unloaded at Guadalcanal in the initial landings, so you can't purchase these until October-November 1942. With rarity set "on", these guns are seldom available, but you can usually count on having off-board 75s and 105s, which were the workhorses of the Marine artillery units.

[Irsmert]

Ahh, thanks makes sense now [:)]

[o4r]

Sorry guys, question again.

(1) The weapon sloted in the infantry, when it stated that it has a rifle, does that value represent the whole squad or section or just an indiviual rifle valve. The program will mutilple by itself.

(2) When the unit is in retreat, why the value to hit was always lower, only when I hit him with something (normally I used a indirect shot) will the unit recover and become pinned. Once pinned, I have actually a higher value or proability to hit it. Is it a SP flaw? I understand about infantry will tends to take cover when fire, but does tank take cover or hit the dirt too. If it is forget I ask this question.

(3) Can the program have a button to on and off the main weapon on the main screen whilst playing the game, I hate to press the space bar or right mouse click on the unit and use the H button to off it and use my mouse to on it again. If the program limitation is there, also again, you may forget I ask this question.

Thanks guy.
[&o]

Miss something. how does we determine the size of our vehicle, the height, or the area. or volume (which meant the length, width and height).

[Major Destruction]

ORIGINAL: o4r


(1) The weapon sloted in the infantry, when it stated that it has a rifle, does that value represent the whole squad or section or just an indiviual rifle valve. The program will mutilple by itself.

The first weapon is abstracted to be fired by up to the full number of men in a unit.
The "primary infantry weapon" (rifle or smg) has the value of a single weapon.
You will notice that some units use a multiple weapon which may be named riflex3 or lmgx2 etc.

AFAIK, if there is a "secondary infantry weapon" in slot 2, the number of men available for firing the slot 1 weapon is reduced.

[Major Destruction]

ORIGINAL: o4r

how does we determine the size of our vehicle, the height, or the area. or volume (which meant the length, width and height).

vehicle size is related to the height of a vehicle.

[o4r]

ORIGINAL: Major Destruction

ORIGINAL: o4r

how does we determine the size of our vehicle, the height, or the area. or volume (which meant the length, width and height).

vehicle size is related to the height of a vehicle.

Thank Major Destruction

As for 1, example are you saying something like this,

Infantry squad *8
Rifle
MG
Grenade

So Rfile *6, MG*1 and Grenade *1?


Height of the vehicle that is interesting, so how does we determine the size

Man height = 1
? to ? = 2
? to ? = 3
? to ? = 4
? to ? = 5
4 men = 0
more than 4 men = 1?

more question on equation.

Page 54 first paragraph , Fire control times five added to weapon accuracy.

Does the that meant added to below

Against moving target is 70 - (target move *3) + (FC * 3) then add 5FC
You move to hit is 66 - (you move *6 ) + (targeting * 8) then Add 5FC
or page 54 is an error and the formulae is without that add 5FC?

[o4r]

Is it too late to make some more amendment now? Like the Germany LGM in Cezh, had an LMG but not given a rate of fire. The rate of fire is zero.

[Kevin E. Duguay]

Is it done yet! I want to look at it so I can complain!!

Only kidding, just getting antsy![:'(]

[Vathailos]

PzKpfw IVd & PzKpfw IVe have their pictures/images transposed.

[Major Destruction]

ORIGINAL: Vathailos

PzKpfw IVd & PzKpfw IVe have their pictures/images transposed.

Easy do-it-yourself fix.
Rename the PIC files.