Churruca

[panzer51]

Is there a particular reason why it is a Nationalist ship?

[RangerJoe]

Is there a particular reason why it is a Nationalist ship?

Because it was a Nationalist ship at the start of the war.

[panzer51]

Is there a particular reason why it is a Nationalist ship?

Because it was a Nationalist ship at the start of the war.

A lot of ships were Nationalist, but became republican within a day. Does it ever switch?

[RangerJoe]

Is there a particular reason why it is a Nationalist ship?

Because it was a Nationalist ship at the start of the war.

A lot of ships were Nationalist, but became republican within a day. Does it ever switch?

Not in the Campaign game but it might be a Republican ship in a scenario because it would be a Republican ship then. There are no ship mutinies during the game turns, only for the beginning of the war.

[Dali101]

I've explained this before.

Ships are ranked in each SCN according to the side they joined on the day the SCN started.

This DD is Nationalist in the main campaign. But in the SCN Mallorca accompanies the Republican main fleet as a Republican.

[panzer51]

I've explained this before.

Ships are ranked in each SCN according to the side they joined on the day the SCN started.

This DD is Nationalist in the main campaign. But in the SCN Mallorca accompanies the Republican main fleet as a Republican.

Thanks, but this decision is very odd.

[Dreamslayer]

I've explained this before.

Ships are ranked in each SCN according to the side they joined on the day the SCN started.

This DD is Nationalist in the main campaign. But in the SCN Mallorca accompanies the Republican main fleet as a Republican.

Why does this logic doesn't work for BB Espana and CL Almirante Cervera?

(its from the article and I used online-translator for it, sorry)
"By special order, on November 15, 1931, the battleship España was transferred to the so-called "first position", and within the next 45 days it was supposed to be completely disarmed. All subsequent discussions about the fate of the ship actually boiled down to two options: to scrap it or to modernize it. Orders from the Ministry of the Sea either extend or cancel the "first provision". Eventually, by government Order No. 271 of November 30, 1935, the battleship was nevertheless placed in reserve. By 1936, the ship was completely dismantled, and most of its valuable equipment, including navigation and communications systems, was put in storage.
At the same time, by order of September 6, 1933, the battleship receives new radio call signs. And starting from January 1 next year, new hull numbers will be introduced on the ships, while the Espagna receives a unique 00 number in world history!
The ship's crew unequivocally supported the policy of the Popular Front. The cause of revolutionary agitation was helped by the fact that the small part of the crew that remained on the battleship communicated quite easily with the revolutionary-minded workers. At the time of the outbreak of the civil war, the battleship was commanded by Captain 2nd rank Luis Pinero Bonet, but since he was called to Madrid just before the events, command temporarily passed to the senior officer, Captain 3rd rank Gabriel Anton Rosas. After the mutiny of the generals, the ships in Ferrol remained loyal to the republic. But on July 18, with the departure of the Libertad and Miguel de Cervantes cruisers, the situation changed. Fascist demonstrations began throughout Galicia, and in protest, the workers of Ferrol declared a political strike on July 20, 1936.
At that time, there were the cruiser Almirante Cervera (in dock), the battleship España, two as-yet unarmed cruisers Canarias and Baleares, the destroyer Velasco, the patrol vessels Xayen and Yad Martin, the destroyers No. 2 and No. 7, as well as the one that arrived from Avila. transport "Contramaestre Casado". The Hoopiter, Bolkan, and Neptuno mines were also in various stages of completion. Although the most revolutionary-minded sailors left with the crews of the cruisers, the personnel of the naval base (about 3,700 people) controlled the port, arsenal, barracks and naval school. Some sailors supported the rebels, some Republicans, but most took a wait-and-see attitude.
After the strike began, as soon as several explosions were heard on the shore, the commander of the battleship, G. Anton, ordered the formation of a consolidated company to help the leadership of the base, where workers were trying to storm the arsenal building. The officers of the Espanya believed that the crew would act on their side, but they miscalculated. The ship's committee demanded an answer from the commander about the purpose of the company. Anton responded in a rather harsh manner, which provoked a shootout. Lieutenants Nunes de Prado and Don Carlos Suances Haudenes were killed, and Anton was wounded.
While he was trying to crawl to the hospital, the sailors stabbed him with bayonets (judging by the criminal case, this was done by a fireman nicknamed Chiquito in retaliation for the fact that his commander had unfairly punished him for drinking).
Soon, the Almirante Cervera cruiser joined the rebels, entering the center of the bay and taking aim at the key points of the arsenal. The Espanyi ship raised the republican flag on the battleship. And some of the sailors actually went ashore, but now to support the workers.
However, the initiative soon passed into the hands of regular troops who sided with the rebels. The bombing of the battleship España and the cruiser Almirante Cervera, carried out around 8 a.m. on the 21st from two Savoy-62 seaplanes, had a great psychological effect (in order not to cause serious damage to the ships, these were exclusively 10-kg bombs). Then two armored cars arrived at the port and the heavy weapons of the rebels pulled up. On the evening of July 21, Almirante Cervera threw out the white flag, and on the morning of the 22nd, the last defenders of Espagna laid down their arms in front of Captain Francisco Moreno Fernandez, who arrived on the battleship."

[Dali101]

I haven't read all the ship histories in detail.

Unfortunately.

In the lists in the publications, these ships are listed as nationalist.

Churruca was significant in that it transported the first Moroccan soldiers to Europe in the first days of the war. The later change was not relevant to me.

But if you make a national main SCN001 from 19.7. , you can safely classify this DD as a republic.

Thank you for the further detailed information.

[RangerJoe]

One option would be to have the destroyer come in as a Nationalist ship, depart, and then return as a Republican ship. The most serious issue that I can think of with that is what happens if the ship is sunk when it is a Nationalist ship?