Fuel Issues: Some Help and Advice!

[Q-Ball]

To learn more on how global supply works, and also to solve specific Fuel issue, need some help. It's July 1937, and the People's Army is running out of fuel. I've conquered most of Spain so the burn is probably more than "normal", or if there was a static front.....but still, this is a problem.

I haven't "de-motorized" any units; I'm not sure how to make that happen. At any rate, I would hope you could get enough fuel to not have to do this. I haven't run the Navy much, it's mostly sat in port, so that's not the problem.

There are several points along the coast with Fuel: 70K at Barcelona, 25K at Cartagena, 25K at Valencia......Odessa is completely dry, as I have moved all the fuel there to Spain.

Rail Connections are all clean, and there isn't a lack of supply; we're good there

Madrid, and nearly all inland cities, are at ZERO fuel.

Questions:

1. Shouldn't some of that 70K fuel in Barcelona be moved automatically to Madrid? Supply seems to be moving; why not fuel? Again, rail connections are clean
2. Does that fuel have to manually requested? I could demand fuel in Madrid, but it should seem obvious it's needed, as it's in the RED (It is needed elsewhere besides Madrid, but getting it to Madrid we should be able to distribute)
3. Are there any more supplies of fuel available in the MED?
4. Yes, I have moved OIL; this sometimes makes it to refineries, mostly it sits in ports on the coast

Do I need more RR units to move this stuff? Or do I need to cool it moving the People's Army around?

As it happens, I am connected to the NORTH, so am also moving Fuel from Leningrad, but in most Human v Human games this is not likely an option.....the Norte will be on it's own (and I think fuel will be less of a problem up there anyway)

[RangerJoe]

I did show how to "de-motorize" an artillery unit on the first page of my AAR. It has verbiage and pictures explaining what to do.

https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 415090#top

[Q-Ball]

I did show how to "de-motorize" an artillery unit on the first page of my AAR. It has verbiage and pictures explaining what to do.

https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 415090#top

Thanks!

Would still like to know why fuel is not moving from Barcelona to Madrid (and other points)

--I am "requesting" fuel at several major cities, but it's not moving
--I just dropped a load of fuel at Bilbao, and it was instantly moved to several places, including, I think, to Madrid (900 tons anyway). So it's flowing from Bilbao. (Republic Del Norte is connected to the rest of the Republic)

Anyway, not sure why Fuel in ports along the Med cannot send fuel inland....that seems to be the problem

[RangerJoe]

I did show how to "de-motorize" an artillery unit on the first page of my AAR. It has verbiage and pictures explaining what to do.

https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 415090#top

Thanks!

Would still like to know why fuel is not moving from Barcelona to Madrid (and other points)

--I am "requesting" fuel at several major cities, but it's not moving
--I just dropped a load of fuel at Bilbao, and it was instantly moved to several places, including, I think, to Madrid (900 tons anyway). So it's flowing from Bilbao. (Republic Del Norte is connected to the rest of the Republic)

Anyway, not sure why Fuel in ports along the Med cannot send fuel inland....that seems to be the problem

Try rebasing your ships that use fuel at different ports - even if they don't otherwise actually move there. This could even be used at inland ports along rivers.

[Q-Ball]

I created a Rail Unit, and am moving it to Zaragoza....maybe that will help move stuff from Barcelona? (Is this correct, BTW? I peeled off some Rail Cars in Madrid, and made a Logistics Unit)

It still mystifies me why fuel moves from Bilbao no problem, but it's stuck in all the Mediterranean Ports

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[atheory]

yea, on the nationalist side all my fuel goes to vigo port. I'm struggling to push it inland and further east across spain.

[RangerJoe]

You can make more units to put in all of your major bases with large train depots. Then as you get more rail cars, you can make smaller units for the smaller depots. But try to concentrate those RR logistical units on your supply paths to your major offensives.

Also, I think that the rail units will only supply bases within 20 hexes . . .
if that is the case, then you need a series of those RR logistical units for the interior.

[atheory]

hmm, fuel issues might be a thing of the past

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[Q-Ball]

I am still struggling to get fuel to the interior. I basically solved most of the problem, though, by taking anything that can float and taking fuel from Russia. There isn't much left to take....

Still alot sitting in Med ports though

[Dreamslayer]

Have you tried it?

The second column is stockpiling. Here you can turn on and off
the stockpiling of a particular product, such as supply or fuel.
When stockpiling, no other base can draw the stockpiled item. If
stockpiling is off, right clicking will change stockpiling to REPEL,
and the base will not draw this item from other bases. REPEL
allows a TF to load any item up until the Base has no more, where
normally loading would stop at some point if the Base requires an
amount of the item to operate normally.

[Q-Ball]

Have you tried it?

The second column is stockpiling. Here you can turn on and off
the stockpiling of a particular product, such as supply or fuel.
When stockpiling, no other base can draw the stockpiled item. If
stockpiling is off, right clicking will change stockpiling to REPEL,
and the base will not draw this item from other bases. REPEL
allows a TF to load any item up until the Base has no more, where
normally loading would stop at some point if the Base requires an
amount of the item to operate normally.

Yes, though I don't think it helps....a base that stockpiles doesn't distribute until it reaches the stockpile amount. I did use the DEMAND function, but it only drew from certain ports

Ultimately, I had to set-up a chain by moving fuel to Almeria (a relatively safe port), and from there via Barge to Malaga. That was the only way to get fuel forward; it wasn't moving off MED ports by train at all, only if I actually shipped it.

I still would like to understand how FUEL is distributed from Barcelona, Cartagena, etc.......it should just "Flow" inland, but doesn't seem to be

[Wiedrock]

Are ther different tank wagons for different goods?

[RangerJoe]

Are ther different tank wagons for different goods?

No.