Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Just got the turn back. Hopefully, another ambush happened. 
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
IJ just never has enough ENG devices, not much you can do about it.Mike Solli wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:58 pm 23 Aug 42
Today, 20 B017Es were sent against the airfield at Madang. This time, 4 B-17s were shot down for no loss, but they got through to cause more light damage to the airfield. The Nicks are doing good work, but the airfield damage is creeping up and the number of ready defenders decreases daily. Only 13 Nicks and 2 Zeros remain active here with 23 and 7 down respectively.
You're doing the right things and getting the right results. Couple more days, if you can keep enough Nicks in the air, and his 4E force will be ineffective. Gonna be tight ....
What altitude and moonlight did you have? I generally have pretty good success ... but night bombing requires high EXP/Skill pilots and Leaders. Think +70.Mike Solli wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:58 pm SRA
Sixteen Nells tried to bomb Darwin again today, but 16 P-40Es were waiting for them. They managed to shoot down one bomber, and the bombers attack on the airfield was ineffective. So much for night bombing of Darwin.
They added a LOT of new bases all over in stock. Are you sure its extended map?Mike Solli wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:58 pm Other Stuff
I'm recently realized something. I'm using the "extended" map. There are a LOT of extra bases, mainly dot bases. the SRA is full of them. I'm still clearing them out. This is a pain in the butt.
I think the easiest test is: Do you have separate Subic and Clark bases? If so, then extended. Otherwise just normal.
Pax
Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Thus we have MIKE!!!Mike Solli wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:37 pm 25 Aug 42 - Really quiet turn today.
Side note: In 18 years, a draftee who was in the process of becoming an MP and will eventually serve in the ETO, will have a son...
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
I think that qualifies as "All In".Mike Solli wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:58 pm 26 Aug 42
Ted really went for Madang today. There were a total of 7 air raids totaling 41 fighters, 71x 4E bombers and 62x 2E bombers. The first raid was the biggest and included all the fighters. The airbase was trashed, but my 22 Nicks and 5 Zeros did well. The lost no planes shot down and shot down 6 fighters, 4x 2E and a single 4E bomber. They did lose 4 Nicks and a Zero on the ground over the course of the bombings. The airfield is closed with 6 Zeros and 15 Nicks damaged and stuck there. I'm sending a couple ships in a fast transport TF to grab them. There are 28 engineers there to work on the damage.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Mike, uhhhh, did you have a SENIOR moment?Mike Solli wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 9:23 pm 27 Aug 42
Reinforcements
Boy did I screw up. I forgot about all of the ships below. As of 11 Sep 42, they're still sitting in port. *Sigh*
SS I-33, Glen sub, going to send her to SE Fleet. I currently have only 2 Glen subs there.
TK Kyokuho Maru, Type-1 TM (8150 capacity), will be stationed at Fusan to move oil to the Home Islands.
DD Kiyonami, Yugumo class, KB escort, fortunately, she showed up at Yokohama, where KB1 is stationed.
Pax
Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
The Nicks seem to be doing a lot better, did you replace the leader or no? Just curious.
Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
I don't think you can load aircraft on a FT TF. Have to switch to Transport or Air Transport.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
If a player made a Transport or Air Transport TF using a ship or ships that can be in a Fast Transport TF, loaded the air unit, then changed the TF to a Fast Transport TF it should work.BBfanboy wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 8:24 pm I don't think you can load aircraft on a FT TF. Have to switch to Transport or Air Transport.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
The devs used this a lot with the starting amphib TF's for IJ in s001 and s002 to get AMc's into the TF's (among a couple of other things). AMc's are specifically NOT allowed by rule, BUT they were actually present historically so the dev's shoe-horned them in.RangerJoe wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 9:18 pmIf a player made a Transport or Air Transport TF using a ship or ships that can be in a Fast Transport TF, loaded the air unit, then changed the TF to a Fast Transport TF it should work.BBfanboy wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 8:24 pm I don't think you can load aircraft on a FT TF. Have to switch to Transport or Air Transport.
So, it's bending a game rule to use it, but the dev's did, so ...
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Yep, you're right, of course. I changed the TF to something else. I believe it was Air Transport, and it worked.BBfanboy wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 8:24 pm I don't think you can load aircraft on a FT TF. Have to switch to Transport or Air Transport.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Yep, Subic Bay and Clark Field are separate bases. Definitely extended.PaxMondo wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 3:58 am
They added a LOT of new bases all over in stock. Are you sure its extended map?
I think the easiest test is: Do you have separate Subic and Clark bases? If so, then extended. Otherwise just normal.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
More and more frequently.PaxMondo wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 5:55 amMike, uhhhh, did you have a SENIOR moment?Mike Solli wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 9:23 pm 27 Aug 42
Reinforcements
Boy did I screw up. I forgot about all of the ships below. As of 11 Sep 42, they're still sitting in port. *Sigh*
SS I-33, Glen sub, going to send her to SE Fleet. I currently have only 2 Glen subs there.
TK Kyokuho Maru, Type-1 TM (8150 capacity), will be stationed at Fusan to move oil to the Home Islands.
DD Kiyonami, Yugumo class, KB escort, fortunately, she showed up at Yokohama, where KB1 is stationed.![]()
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Yes, I did replace the leader. Thanks for the suggestion.sfatula wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 5:48 pm The Nicks seem to be doing a lot better, did you replace the leader or no? Just curious.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Geez, trying to update this AAR and I just got the 19 Sep turn. Way behind!
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Well, you're officially a member of a large and growing club. Welcome!!!
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Yes, you are!!! Dying here for updates!!!! Put the Grandkids down, open up the toy cupboard for them or put on their favorite Disney disc on autoplay and get us some AAR updates!!!Mike Solli wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:40 am Geez, trying to update this AAR and I just got the 19 Sep turn. Way behind!
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
28 Aug 42
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
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4 Fleet
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SE Fleet
The multitude of Allied bombers focused on Madang. The damaged planes there (14 Nicks and 4 Zeros) were all missed. Any repaired planes are flown out.
Thirty-three 4E bombers were sent after Tulagi to suppress that airfield. Fortunately, they didn't cause much damage. My Dinahs there are still providing naval search to the south and I have 15 Zeros there to try and turn back a bomber or two.
The main body of the Nick sentai is currently resting at Rabaul, with a handful of replacements repairing at Truk and the damaged Nicks at Madang.
I have no ambushes planned for tomorrow.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
That irritating Allied AMc was still sitting in Cox's Bazaar harbor clearing bunches of mines that I just laid. I finally got an Ansyu PB there and she sank her with one shot! Saki for the entire crew! I'm down to 273 (of 450!) mines left. I'm sending more CMs to make up the difference. That puny little harbor is very important to my invasion of India!
China
The IJA bomber force is keeping the airfields at Lanchow, Chungking, Kweiyang and Kunming full of holes. When the damage is high, they switch to giving the troops headaches.
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
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4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
The multitude of Allied bombers focused on Madang. The damaged planes there (14 Nicks and 4 Zeros) were all missed. Any repaired planes are flown out.
Thirty-three 4E bombers were sent after Tulagi to suppress that airfield. Fortunately, they didn't cause much damage. My Dinahs there are still providing naval search to the south and I have 15 Zeros there to try and turn back a bomber or two.
The main body of the Nick sentai is currently resting at Rabaul, with a handful of replacements repairing at Truk and the damaged Nicks at Madang.
I have no ambushes planned for tomorrow.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
That irritating Allied AMc was still sitting in Cox's Bazaar harbor clearing bunches of mines that I just laid. I finally got an Ansyu PB there and she sank her with one shot! Saki for the entire crew! I'm down to 273 (of 450!) mines left. I'm sending more CMs to make up the difference. That puny little harbor is very important to my invasion of India!
China
The IJA bomber force is keeping the airfields at Lanchow, Chungking, Kweiyang and Kunming full of holes. When the damage is high, they switch to giving the troops headaches.
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
29 Aug 42
Sub War
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5 Fleet
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4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Fifteen Zeros met 18 B-17Es over Tulagi. They traded a loss (WIA) and did minor damage to the airfield. Later, 15 more 4E bombers showed up. My 4 Zeros still airborne were unable to do anything. More light damage resulted. The damage is slowly increasing, unfortunately.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
Three torpedo laden Beauforts came in low at Cox's Bazaar to try and torpedo the PB that sank the AMc, but missed. They were escorted by Hurricanes. I had Tojos flying CAP, but they were too high. They did manage to shoot down a Hurricane for no loss though.
In the afternoon, the Beauforts returned, escorted by 9 Hurricanes. My Tojos, still flying high, were aware that this might happen again and shot down 4 Hurricanes and 2 Beauforts for no loss. Banzai!
China
My bombing continued. I'm moving forces to focus on Kweiyang (4 hexes SW of Chungking), along with Lanchow. The 1 Tank Division and 14 Tank Regiment are at Kunming, with 33 Division marching there (slowly). When they arrive, I'll attack to take that base. It has 100 HI and 80 LI there. I'd like to deny it to the Chinese. Whatever I capture undamaged is a plus.
Other Stuff
The Ha-44-IIb R&D advanced to 9/42. I will not produce any of this model. I have 7x 30 factories working on the IIc model now, which is the one I want as soon as possible. I also have factories producing 210 Ha-34 engines, which is exactly what I need for 90 Tojos and 60 Helens a month. The Helen IIa (the model I want) also becomes operational in 9/42. I'm delaying production of this model until the Tojo IIa becomes operational in mid-December 42. I have 522 Ha-34 engines in the pool and produce 7 a day, just enough to accelerate the Tojo R&D factories. I have a 69 of the Ha-44-IIa in the pool and 90 in units. This will (have to) last until the IIc model becomes operational. I'm still producing 60 Oscar (IIa model now) per month and anticipate producing that throughout the war. I'm not doing any R&D on them.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Nothing to report.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Fifteen Zeros met 18 B-17Es over Tulagi. They traded a loss (WIA) and did minor damage to the airfield. Later, 15 more 4E bombers showed up. My 4 Zeros still airborne were unable to do anything. More light damage resulted. The damage is slowly increasing, unfortunately.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
Three torpedo laden Beauforts came in low at Cox's Bazaar to try and torpedo the PB that sank the AMc, but missed. They were escorted by Hurricanes. I had Tojos flying CAP, but they were too high. They did manage to shoot down a Hurricane for no loss though.
In the afternoon, the Beauforts returned, escorted by 9 Hurricanes. My Tojos, still flying high, were aware that this might happen again and shot down 4 Hurricanes and 2 Beauforts for no loss. Banzai!
China
My bombing continued. I'm moving forces to focus on Kweiyang (4 hexes SW of Chungking), along with Lanchow. The 1 Tank Division and 14 Tank Regiment are at Kunming, with 33 Division marching there (slowly). When they arrive, I'll attack to take that base. It has 100 HI and 80 LI there. I'd like to deny it to the Chinese. Whatever I capture undamaged is a plus.
Other Stuff
The Ha-44-IIb R&D advanced to 9/42. I will not produce any of this model. I have 7x 30 factories working on the IIc model now, which is the one I want as soon as possible. I also have factories producing 210 Ha-34 engines, which is exactly what I need for 90 Tojos and 60 Helens a month. The Helen IIa (the model I want) also becomes operational in 9/42. I'm delaying production of this model until the Tojo IIa becomes operational in mid-December 42. I have 522 Ha-34 engines in the pool and produce 7 a day, just enough to accelerate the Tojo R&D factories. I have a 69 of the Ha-44-IIa in the pool and 90 in units. This will (have to) last until the IIc model becomes operational. I'm still producing 60 Oscar (IIa model now) per month and anticipate producing that throughout the war. I'm not doing any R&D on them.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
30 Aug 42
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Nothing to report.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
I tried an ambush at Salamaua. I usually try ambushes when I see a small number of bombers (unescorted) that hit a base multiple days. This time Ted got me. I had 8 Zeros run into 13 Wildcats, who bounced me. I lost 5 fighters and pilots. Ouch.
In the afternoon, 8 more Zeros showed up and ran into 18 P-39Ds on a strafing mission. They shot down only one plane, but damaged a lot of them. The next day, only about half a dozen would strafe.
Ted must have seen me send TFs to Madang so he sent his bomber force to demolish Madang's port.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
No action today.
China
More bombing and maneuvering.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
14 RGC Independent Brigade (RGC Army), combines with the RGC Capital Brigade to form the 2 RGC Capital Division. This unit will move to Shanghai to relieve 35 Division for use at the front.
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Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Nothing to report.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
I tried an ambush at Salamaua. I usually try ambushes when I see a small number of bombers (unescorted) that hit a base multiple days. This time Ted got me. I had 8 Zeros run into 13 Wildcats, who bounced me. I lost 5 fighters and pilots. Ouch.
In the afternoon, 8 more Zeros showed up and ran into 18 P-39Ds on a strafing mission. They shot down only one plane, but damaged a lot of them. The next day, only about half a dozen would strafe.
Ted must have seen me send TFs to Madang so he sent his bomber force to demolish Madang's port.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
No action today.
China
More bombing and maneuvering.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
14 RGC Independent Brigade (RGC Army), combines with the RGC Capital Brigade to form the 2 RGC Capital Division. This unit will move to Shanghai to relieve 35 Division for use at the front.
AG Hayasaki
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
31 Aug 42
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Nothing to report.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
The bombers went for Gasmata (my forward fighter/FB base) today. The Nicks weren't there at the time, but they got 15 Zeros on the ground. Fortunately, I have spares. The Zeros were on an attempted ambush (that didn't pan out) and I had 47 Oscars stationed at Rabaul on LRCAP over Gasmata. We all know how good Oscars are against 4E beasts.
They managed to shoot down 2 escorting Wildcats, and didn't lose any of their number. They probably damaged a lot of bombers but none were shot down. Gasmata's airfield is out of business for a while.
Here's damage at my bases in the area (port-airfield-runway):
Madang: 57-72-84
Tulagi: 0-29-42
Gasmata: 0-75-99
Fortunately, I've planned for this and have moved my planes back to other already prepared airfields. Hollandia, Manus, Kavieng and Rabaul.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
No action today.
China
Bombing and maneuvering...
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Nothing to report.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
The bombers went for Gasmata (my forward fighter/FB base) today. The Nicks weren't there at the time, but they got 15 Zeros on the ground. Fortunately, I have spares. The Zeros were on an attempted ambush (that didn't pan out) and I had 47 Oscars stationed at Rabaul on LRCAP over Gasmata. We all know how good Oscars are against 4E beasts.
Here's damage at my bases in the area (port-airfield-runway):
Madang: 57-72-84
Tulagi: 0-29-42
Gasmata: 0-75-99
Fortunately, I've planned for this and have moved my planes back to other already prepared airfields. Hollandia, Manus, Kavieng and Rabaul.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
No action today.
China
Bombing and maneuvering...
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
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