1.03 TOE Errata

[MechFO]

NARA T78 Roll311

Zustand der Divisionen auf den

OKW Kriegsschauplätzen from 01.07.1944 and 01.06.1944 page 54 ff

OB West, various HGr

01.04.44 page 123ff
01.05.44 page 111ff

Heeresgruppe E

01.04.44 page 136ff


Ob Südost /Heeresgruppe F

01.07.44 page 147ff
01.04.44 page 134ff


Heeresgruppe

01.07.44 page 150ff

HGr Mitte
03.09.44 page 158ff
10.09.44 page 172ff

HGr Nord
02.09.1944 page 165ff

HGr Südukraine
04.09.1944 page 170ff

AOK Norwegen + Geb AOK 20 + Dänemark
01.05.44 pages 154ff




The details of several Sondergliederungen in several bodenständige Divisions with 9 to 12 Battalions. Very few manpower numbers unfortunately.

[Denniss]

The 44 Panzer Divisions in game have about 14800+ men, the authorized strength was 14013.

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/6

Probably need to reduce the support squads a bit.

14013 is german personnel only, oberall with Hiwi it was 14727. Feldersatz Battailon is listed with 973 men but marked as containing 800 men Ersatzstaffel. As this OB was pre-issued in 9/44 one could also assume further stripping some parts out. In PzD45 there was no Ersatzstaffel within the Ferdersatz Battalion so it shrunk to just 173 men. Assuming this reduction would be applied in late 44 this would make 13927 men.
Such a reduction would be applicable to the 1945 OB.
I have to look for info about the early 44 expected/ordered strength

[MechFO]

355. Infantry Division on 14. June 1943 when sent to the East.

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/7

The PaK should be all 7.5cm.

Per 1.04.14 Beta all the 4/43 organisations seem to still have the 50mm.


From the KSTN list for the pionier thread

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/7

dated 14.06.43

I didn't notice it before but looking at the the Infantry:

Schütz. Kp. Inf Div 131a 11.11.41 ohne le.Gr.W.
dazu T.E. m.Gr.W.Gr 170 20.05.43 X) ----> bottom page: Bis zum Erscheinen gilt 726 (so Pionier organisation) v.1.3.43 als Anhalt


https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/7

Additional information from 106. Inf Div from 19.05.43

The Inf Kp in the Feldersatz Bat are ordered to setup the additonal MG and s.Gr.W.

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/7

There are also counterexamples, the 106 specifically still has the l.Gr.W. for the Schützen companies on its Soll list for 04.08.43, so the formal switch had not yet been made. Although it is already a hybrid organisation, the extra 81mm in the Soll totals are probably from the 81mm shown in the Pi Kp of the Pi Bat, which still have their Panzerbüchsen but are missing the extra MG's. This despite the notable lack of 81mm that were in such short supply that some of the Shw Kp of the Inf Bats were having 50mm or a mix of 12cm and 50mm.

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/8

It's possible the 355 Division was special case, or that Divisions getting organised around that time were getting the new TOE or or or.


@Wiedrock
have you run across any collections with the KSTN lists for Infantry Divisions from mid 43? In Tsamo they are scattered around and I don't have the time to go browsing randomly.

[Wiedrock]

@Wiedrock
have you run across any collections with the KSTN lists for Infantry Divisions from mid 43? In Tsamo they are scattered around and I don't have the time to go browsing randomly.

Not in a comprehensive way, if you mean 1by1 Infantry authorized KSTN Lists. For the ID44 and...I think the 10/43 TOEs I should have the "exact" lists of KSTNs which should have been applied.
The only 1by1 I looked at were the Jäger Divisions but I stopped work on them when I found the 160mm HEAT issue.

[MechFO]

@Wiedrock
have you run across any collections with the KSTN lists for Infantry Divisions from mid 43? In Tsamo they are scattered around and I don't have the time to go browsing randomly.

Not in a comprehensive way, if you mean 1by1 Infantry authorized KSTN Lists. For the ID44 and...I think the 10/43 TOEs I should have the "exact" lists of KSTNs which should have been applied.
The only 1by1 I looked at were the Jäger Divisions but I stopped work on them when I found the 160mm HEAT issue.

The time of interest would be very narrow, June-July 1943.
The date for TE m.Gr.W.Gr (just noted the m., so name change from schw.Gr.W. happened between March and May 43, with both designations being used in parallel for a while. This would also explain why suddenly mortars started being labeled with their caliber in the strength reports in mid 43) is 20.05.43, so any change would have to have been after it.
106 Inf Div issuing the order on the 19.05.43 in a completely different area (355 was still constituting in France, 106 was on the Eastern Front) means there must have been some overarching order going out in May.

[Wiedrock]

I can offer these.

[MechFO]

I can offer these.

Thanks, I'm looking for something similar to the 11.9.1943 order which must have existed prior to 19. May.

Very interesting that the 170 KSTN was backdated to 20.05.43, even though it did not exist in June.

Thank you for the Mortar order, the 5 s.Gr.W. Bats must be the 5, 9, 10, 18 and Glossner (later 19). These are missing in the TOE and OB lists.

https://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gl ... derung.htm