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[EvilWeevil]

Anyone fancy giving a newbie to WIR an ass thwacking? I've only just downloaded it today, does the PDEM function work or do you need a hack to get it to work.

I've got v3.3. Not bothered which side or scenario. What are HQ mules or house rules? Yes, I'm really this new ! But I'm up for learning the hard way. [8D]

So if you've got a spare slot, drop me a line here. Not giving my email address out just yet.

[Forward_March]

Last I knew, version 3.3 needs a bit of hacking. Fortunately somebody sent me a copy since my attempts at the hack were failures.

HQ mules are when you use a HQ to give special supply to a unit, then transfer the unit back to it's original HQ.

Most house rules are made to even the playing field a little bit...

Like keeping the Finns from making a joint assault on Leningrad with the Germans prior to 42....and keeping them from advancing on Moscow since they don't suffer blizzard effects.

Like reducing the number of interdictions on a corps so that it isn't bombed into the stone ages before it's attacked.

Like limiting the number of heavy tanks produced.

Some pointless ones like not letting Magyars and Rumanians serve in the same corps. Apparently they didn't like eachother though I've never heard that before playing this game.

Like keeping some Luftwaffe units in the west

Like keeping at least one tank or mech unit in any armored corps.

It'd be nice to have a version where house rules weren't necessary...thinking too much can make turns really long....hmmm...did I bomb that unit already?....hmmmm...is this the third or fourth time?

Oh, no! You've got Hungarians in my Rumanians....You've got Rumanians on my Hungarians! Anybody remember the ancient Reeses Peanut Butter Cup Commercials?

[JagdFlanker]

it's funny you mention some of the lame rules, because i agree totally some of them are completely unnecisary. case in point - the luftwaffe units in the west. sure , they SHOULD be there realistically, but as sovs do you think i would complain if you leave berlin complely undefended? hey, i'll let the german player do what he wants with his air units for that opportunity!! i'v never used the hungarian/romanian combo rule - waste of time, too nit pickey.

the 1 mech unit in a pz army applies only if you want to move 5 hexes. otherwise it can only move 2. i myself would much rather see the 1 mech for 5 hexes rule changed to "to move more than 2 hexes a Pz Korps/Tank Army must have minimum 2/3 mech divisions" - anything less seems game-y, and divisions doesn't include support Bn's, arty, etc. just a thought...

[Forward_March]

I agree with you about your last para. Nothing irks me more than some strengthless suicide Pzkorps or tank army making the dive for one mission with no thought to it's survival. Very unmilitary and very gamey!

I've made the plunge before with a full pzkorp or tank army, but always with the intention that I'll go to rescue it after it's made the enemy move his line. AS often as not, it's a failure, but at least it's a paid-for failure.

[Tom1939]

ORIGINAL: Forward_March


Some pointless ones like not letting Magyars and Rumanians serve in the same corps. Apparently they didn't like eachother though I've never heard that before playing this game.

Oh, no! You've got Hungarians in my Rumanians....You've got Rumanians on my Hungarians! Anybody remember the ancient Reeses Peanut Butter Cup Commercials?

Well, rumanians and hungarians is NOT a love story.... If you live in central europe you know it. It goes all back to world war I when we (with austria and germany) pulverized Rumania, captured Bucharest after a backstab attack by them. After the war they got a lot of territory from us (hungary was left with about 30% of his original territory..., not all went to Rumania but a lot did) We would have fought much better against each other then against the soviets. High morale on both sides and no prisoners:) Strange country country we were: we had territorial calims against Rumania who we hated then, we did not care too much against the soviets. And who did we go in war against? With who as ally? Very funny:)

[Brutus]

As far as i know, Hitler promised each side territorial gains from the other side after the final victory. Very simple but it worked [:D]

[DiRaC]

There were some of rumanian units fought in the battle of Budapest against Germans and Hungarians after the surrender of Rumania. Many Rumanians fought bravely or crazily, and couldn't stop to attack the Hungarins' trenches even the Soviet commander ordered them to stop because of the very heavy casualties.
This was what I heard of.

[DiRaC]

But I agree that there is no sense to use that rule to seperate them in the game, since it's just a game and will not really effect the balance of the game~~

[Tom1939]

ORIGINAL: DiRaC

There were some of rumanian units fought in the battle of Budapest against Germans and Hungarians after the surrender of Rumania. Many Rumanians fought bravely or crazily, and couldn't stop to attack the Hungarins' trenches even the Soviet commander ordered them to stop because of the very heavy casualties.
This was what I heard of.

That might be true but what I heard those soviet comrades were not so kind. Many Rumanians died against the germans in hungary as they were misused by the soviets as well (some machine guns in the back to be sure they are brave). And they were outclassed by the german werhmacht even in 44. In hungary the germans were very strong relatively in 44-45. That is why they lost so bad in poland in early 45. The hungarian campaign was quite intresting... Many attacks and counterattacks, territories changing hands couple of times (at some places for over a month). The place where my wife's parents live in eastern hungary changed hands twice (only for days though). I west hungary at the end of 44 a soviet front barely avoided destruction, and Székefehérvár was retaken for over a month. There were times when more then half of the german panzers were in hungary. Big mistake but Hitler wanted to hold the last hungarian oil fields at all costs.

[PzFaust]

i love reading all this info and i think its great, im just wondering if this poor noob has got a game?!?! LOL

[DiRaC]

ORIGINAL: Tom1939

ORIGINAL: DiRaC

There were some of rumanian units fought in the battle of Budapest against Germans and Hungarians after the surrender of Rumania. Many Rumanians fought bravely or crazily, and couldn't stop to attack the Hungarins' trenches even the Soviet commander ordered them to stop because of the very heavy casualties.
This was what I heard of.

That might be true but what I heard those soviet comrades were not so kind. Many Rumanians died against the germans in hungary as they were misused by the soviets as well (some machine guns in the back to be sure they are brave). And they were outclassed by the german werhmacht even in 44. In hungary the germans were very strong relatively in 44-45. That is why they lost so bad in poland in early 45. The hungarian campaign was quite intresting... Many attacks and counterattacks, territories changing hands couple of times (at some places for over a month). The place where my wife's parents live in eastern hungary changed hands twice (only for days though). I west hungary at the end of 44 a soviet front barely avoided destruction, and Székefehérvár was retaken for over a month. There were times when more then half of the german panzers were in hungary. Big mistake but Hitler wanted to hold the last hungarian oil fields at all costs.

Yes, the last German offensive was there, Hungary. And if you look at the order of battle, you will be surprised by the luxury German divs names: ss panzer 1,2,3,5,9,12 and panzer div 1,3,6. Very intensive fighting, very fast phase changing, and very interesting tactics by both sides.

[PzFaust]

i have some great video footage of this battle, all this info about the fighting in hungary makes me want to read up about it!!

[steverodgers801OLD]

still care to play