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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)

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PaxMondo wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 10:10 pm
Mike Solli wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 2:29 pm
PaxMondo wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 2:08 pm

Actually, I don't think that they can. Without a capital, I don't think you can re-build that nations forces. They go back into the auto return queue, but without a return date. It looks something like this:
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China still has both the capital and secondary capital. But, according to the rules book (unless they changed), only infantry units come back at 1/3 TO&E. The construction regiments are engineers. I don't think they will come back at 1/3 TO&E.
Sorry, I thought you had taken out the CHI already ... confusing AAR's, SORRY.

Dang, end of Sept 42, and you still have to take CK ... ouch. This is gonna be painful. :cry: :cry: :cry:




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I don't think it'll be as painful as the last go around. I took Chungking in Jan 44. Right now I have surrounded pockets totaling 44 units with >350k troops. Also, in Sian is a stack of 38 units of 242k troops. They aren't surrounded, but I control all the roads out of there. There are other units here and there too. 47k in Lanchow. 164k in Kweiyang. They're being demolished and the remnants will end up in Chungking. Another dozen or so scattered around here and there.

CK has 63 units totaling 193k troops. Chengtu has 2 units of 15k. The other two bases on that plain each have 1 unit of ~15k. Yeah, it'll take awhile but I'll do it in 43 (I hope).

When the remnants of Kweiyang end up in CK, he'll have ~300k troops there, with a third of them trash. The rest are rebuilding. The IJAAF will bomb the hell out of them. After I take Kweiyang, I'll surround CK.
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27 Sep 42

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The I-169 spotted another xAP today (after torpedoing the monster yesterday). She put a torpedo into a smaller loaded xAP. Later in the day, she caught up with the xAP again and put another torpedo into her, this time putting her down.

The I-173 was caught south of Milne Bay and hit by a DC. The damage wasn't severe but it was enough to send her home from repairs.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Things settled down in this area for the most part. Only Ted's bombers were active, mainly bombing Munda's troops.

Enemy bomber sorties:

2E: 6
4E: 66

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

Nothing to report.

China

Lanchow and Chungking's airfields took additional damage and Kweiyang's troops got pummeled by IJAAF bombers. The army intending to take Kweiyang is still gathering.

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28 Sep 42

Sub War

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5 Fleet

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4 Fleet

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SE Fleet

Nine torpedo laden Nells raided Milne Bay sinking 2 ACMs. I was hoping for bigger game, but now the minefield will begin to degrade.

In the afternoon, 36 more Nells showed up at Milne Bay, but this time there were Allied fighters. I lost about half a dozen Nells. The survivors bore in sinking 2 AMs and another ACM, but misses the two xAPs. :roll:

Allied bomber sorties:

2E: 7
4E: 97

They again went after troops in the jungle. Ted seems to be avoiding my airfields. Maybe he's losing planes as op losses from the damage my fighters do.

SRA

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Burma

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China

Bombing and maneuvering...

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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)

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29 Sep 42

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4 Fleet

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Bloody day in the air today.

In the morning, I swept Woodlark Island thinking there were only a few enemy fighters there. My 32 Tojos ran into 4 P-38Fs, 10 P-40Ks and 18 F4F4s. It was an even match (which I don't like - I want uneven in my favor) but the Tojos didn't perform too badly. At a cost of 5 Tojos (5 K/MIA), they downed 3 P-40s and 6 Wildcats.

Later, 3 laggard Tojos showed up late to the party and lost one of their number for no kills. :roll:

A bunch of heavy bombers bombed Munda's troops doing little damage.

Then, 17 B-17Es went after the troops at Gasmata. I had 9 Zeros and 35 Nicks flying CAP there. At a cost of 1 Nick (KIA), 6 of the beasts were shot down! Lots of Nicks works really well!

Then a second wave of 8 B-17Es showed up. Three of them were shot down as well!

Allied bomber sorties:

2E: 0
4E: 95 (before the losses)

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

It was pretty bloody in this AO too. A sentai of 34 Oscar IIas met 12 P-40Es and 16 Hurricane IIcs. The Oscars came out the worst (of course), losing 3 (3 KIA, 1 WIA) for a Warhawk and 2 Hurricanes.

China

Bombing and maneuvering.

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29 Sep addition: I spotted a couple of carriers hanging out near Luganville.
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30 Sep 42

Sub War

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5 Fleet

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4 Fleet

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SE Fleet

The morning started off with a 27 Zero sweep of Woodlark Island. Twenty-five Tojos were supposed to accompany them, but they lagged behind. The Zeros ran into 4 P-38F, 6 P-40K and 11 F4F4. For a loss of 2 Zeros (2 KIA), they shot down 1, 1 and 3 respectively of the enemy. Ok, but they were IJN pilots lost.

The 25 Tojos showed up immediately after and ran into the remaining planes: 1 P-40K and 2 Wildcats. They shot down all 3 for no loss. Nice!

Then, 6 B-17Es went after Gasmata's troops and ran into a buzz saw of 8 Zeros and 29 Nicks. Only 2 B-17s returned. This probably wasn't even an ambush. They probably were just stationed there for a future ambush. (To be honest, I don't remember. It may have been an ambush. At any rate, 4 more Flying Fortresses no longer have to be maintained by the Allies.)

This is the interesting part of the day. The I-171 was hanging out 3 hexes NE of Luganville and spotted a TF composed of 5 old BB, a CA, 2 DD and 4 DMS and was heading NW. Interesting. The DMS suggested to me that it was a bombardment TF headed to a base with mines. Tulagi? Only time would tell. The 2 carriers I spotted yesterday was a separate TF because this one only has a few auxiliary aircraft in it and the TF spotted yesterday had 70 fighters and 55 bombers. Still, I was uncertain about the TF yesterday thinking this could possibly be the same one and I just didn't spot the carriers today.

If it was a bombardment TF, I thought I could ambush them. I have KB2 (Soryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku, 105 Zeros, 51 Vals, 51 Kates) stationed at Truk (KB1 is at Yokohama). I sent KB2 south with a light escort of 3 Akitsukis and 3 Yugumos. The heavier escorts were all part of the Munda bombardment group and were currently repairing the light damage they sustained during their steaming. So, I was going to be cautious with KB2. If the enemy carriers were spotted, I'd rethink my ambush.

Also, Shokaku had just gotten a load of the long range A6M3a. The intent was to use them as the bomber escort and use the A6M2s aboard the other 2 carriers as CAP. The issue was that, of the 36+3 Zeros aboard, 18 were still being assembled. If they weren't ready, I'd go with the normal 60% CAP, 40% escort configuration. Actually, it doesn't really matter yet because my max range for the bombers was 6 hexes, the max normal range for the Val. It only comes into play when I get the B6N2 Jill, which won't happen until Feb 43.

Oh yeah, the I-121 was on her way to Munda with 40 mines. She was 2 days out. I didn't realize it at the time, but she would play a major role...

I was nervous, concerned and excited all at the same time. :lol:

Enemy bomber sorties:

2E: 0
4E: 36 - 30 were bombing Tulagi's airfield and the other 6 were described above.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

Something odd happened here. I have a sentai of Tojos guarding Akyab at 0 range and I somehow managed to change the CAP range to 2. I may have swapped out Tojo sentai and the replacement had a range of 2, but I don't remember. Anyway, the CAP leaked to the front line (1 hex east of Cox's Bazaar) and 26 Tojos ran into 7 Hurricanes and 6 Warhawks, who got the jump on the Tojos. Result: 4 Tojos lost (2 KIA, 2 WIA). *Sigh*

China

Here is a screenshot of the area around Kweiyang. You can see 2 Chinese units on the road just south of there. They marched there to cut my supply line (successfully - Ted can be a pain in the ass :lol: ) from the base to the east. I had stationed some Tina transports and the 3 Raiding Regiment at Hankow. When I realized where they came from and reconned the base to discover it had no garrison, I dropped the paratroopers there to take it on the cheap. I have 2 divisions de-training at the base just to the south. One will arrive in a few days to oust them and recover the nice supply route. So, what it will do is just a temporary inconvenience for me and cost him a base and 2 trashed units later.

Edit: I forgot the screenshot! Here it is:

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1 Oct 42 - I'm only 15 days behind. Yay!

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The day in this AO started off with 27 B-17E/F bombing Tulagi's port sinking the ACM there. I still have 150 mines there but they will begin to degrade now.

Another Zero sweep of Woodlark Island netted 2 Lightnings and a Wildcat for no loss. Immediately after, the Tojos arrived and shot down 2 P-40Ks for no loss. Nice little operation here.

Elsewhere in this AO, I've been cleaning up the dot hexes so I don't have to deal with another Munda. Munda worked out well, but that's only because Ted chose to drop a para battalion in my midst, where I could deal with it relatively easily. I suspect the next "dot hex invasion" will be somewhere on the fringe of the Solomons (or vicinity) and it will be an amphibious assault, complete with a regiment/brigade (or larger) and lots of engineer, AS and supply and carrier support. He could build up quickly and there would be little I could do to stop it. He doesn't know this, but I have a division available (20 Division in Rabaul) but nowhere near enough lift capability to move it.

So, what happened to the BB (and CV) TF(s)? No clue. I saw the CV TF 2 days ago and the BB TF yesterday. Today? Nada. KB2 is currently 5 hexes SW of Ponape and headed SE. Shokaku only repaired 3 of its A6M3a, so has 24 available & 15 in maintenance (36+3 reserve). It looks like none of the damaged planes will be repaired by tomorrow. :o I recall doing a lot of estimating of where the enemy TFs could possibly be based on estimated speeds of slow BBs and pre-war CVs. I have them out of range of where the enemy could possibly be and am counting on naval search. I have Ki-46-IIs based at Buin (formerly Tulagi) providing naval search to the south, so I can see if the enemy moved to within its range, 14 hexes. The arc is 120-210.

If KB2 moves its full distance, it'll be 12 hexes from Tulagi and 14 hexes from Munda, the two bases I determined (read: guessed) would be the most likely targets. So, I wait, impatiently and nervously.

Enemy bomber sorties:

Only the bombing attack described above. Resting them?

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

So, my Tojo sentai was set to LRCAP over the front line, probably intentionally. I think I wanted to attrit the Brits of their fighters, but to be honest, I don't recall (I'd make a good politician. :lol: ) Twenty-one Tojos met 18 enemy fighters, losing 3 of their number (1 WIA fortunately) for a solitary P-40E. The Tojo IIc can't come soon enough (11 Dec 42). Whether it was intent or stupidity, I have the sentai set to LRCAP again for tomorrow.

China

First thing this morning was a bombing raid of Chungking with 21 Sallies escorted by 8 Oscars. Where was my Zero sweep, the slackers! Anyway, 2 P-66s laid into them. The Oscars got lucky and shot one down but the other got through and shot down 3 Sallies. :evil:

The Zeros finally arrived finding 2 P-66s and shot down one.

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The two dets can eventually convert to fighters and combine with the main body, but the earliest fighter they can convert to is the Ki-43-IIb, which doesn't appear until 2/43. They'll train bombers until then, then convert to the IIb, then convert to the Nate and combine with the main body. Pain in the butt.

The Ki-44-IIc R&D advanced to 10/43 and is estimated to become operational around 12/11/42. I have 7 R&D factories working and am producing 210 engines a day, so all of the production is going to R&D. The Ha-49-IIa is operational but I'm not producing any so all 7 R&D Tojo factories will be doubled. When the Tojo becomes operational, the idea was to build 90 Tojos and 60 Helens, using 210 engines per month. Four R&D factories would be reallocated to something else. Nothing else will use the Ha-34 engine so the pool would remain. What I have decided to do is to allow all 7x30 Tojo factories to become operational, using all of the Ha-34 production and allowing 7 Tojos a day to be built. The Helens will begin producing 60 per month. The net effect would be to draw down the pool by 120 per month. It will start around 11 Dec 42. I will maintain this until the end of March 43. At that time, 4x30 Tojo factories will be allocated to R&D (airframe to be determined). At that time, the Ha-34 pool should be around 60. By the end of March 43 (220 days) I'll have produced 1540 Tojos and 440 Helens. I estimate that, on the front line (3 and 5 Air Divisions), I'll need 240 Tojos and 78 Oscars. When the pool is drawn down at the end of March 43 and the 4 Tojo factories have shifted back to R&D, I'll be producing 90 Tojo IIc and 60 Helen IIa (210 Ha-34 engines needed per month) along with 60 of the newest model Oscar per month. That will remain constant until the Frank arrives at some unknown date.
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Question for the group: How do you train defense for fighter pilots? I know there's a way but, for the life of me, can't remember how. I also know it's pretty slow. Thanks.
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Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 3:08 pm Question for the group: How do you train defense for fighter pilots? I know there's a way but, for the life of me, can't remember how. I also know it's pretty slow. Thanks.
I think you set them to train sweep at an altitude of 100ft. This trains the strafe skill, but also def.
I read about people training LowN instead of strafing arguing that it might be more useful than starfing while also training def, but I am not so sure about that.
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Mike Solli wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 11:38 pm 27 Sep 42

2E: 6
4E: 66
I'm still 'noodling' this. Ted is obviously attracting your attention down here, the question though is why? Is it that he plans something big here and this is prep to attrit your forces or is it to divert your attention from elsewhere? I am concerned about it though ... it's too obvious to ignore ...
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Mike Solli wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 11:53 pm 28 Sep 42
Allied bomber sorties:

2E: 7
4E: 97
They again went after troops in the jungle. Ted seems to be avoiding my airfields. Maybe he's losing planes as op losses from the damage my fighters do.
If he was losing planes, the numbers would drop off pretty fast as we know his replacement rate on the 4E's is tiny. Clearly with 97 4E's, he hasn't lost many, if any, 4E's in a while.

Still nagging me, what is he up to?
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Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 12:14 am 29 Sep 42

Then, 17 B-17Es went after the troops at Gasmata. I had 9 Zeros and 35 Nicks flying CAP there. At a cost of 1 Nick (KIA), 6 of the beasts were shot down! Lots of Nicks works really well!

Then a second wave of 8 B-17Es showed up. Three of them were shot down as well!
OK!!! 25 B17's arrive and only 16 go home and you know that 1 or 2 more didn't make home. This is a big HIT. Let's see how he reacts .... :P :P :P






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Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 12:46 pm 30 Sep 42

The morning started off with a 27 Zero sweep of Woodlark Island. Twenty-five Tojos were supposed to accompany them, but they lagged behind. The Zeros ran into 4 P-38F, 6 P-40K and 11 F4F4. For a loss of 2 Zeros (2 KIA), they shot down 1, 1 and 3 respectively of the enemy. Ok, but they were IJN pilots lost.

The 25 Tojos showed up immediately after and ran into the remaining planes: 1 P-40K and 2 Wildcats. They shot down all 3 for no loss. Nice!
Coordinating sweeps to arrive together is really tough. Herb is one of the few who could do it consistently. Earlier I posted the link to how he did it .... I can confirm it works, but be prepared to spend the PP's that he did.
Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 12:46 pm Then, 6 B-17Es went after Gasmata's troops and ran into a buzz saw of 8 Zeros and 29 Nicks. Only 2 B-17s returned.
So, a HUGE drop off of numbers. Either he's resting a bunch of repairing 4E's OR he thinks he's accomplished his goal ... whatever that is ....
Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 12:46 pm This is the interesting part of the day. The I-171 was hanging out 3 hexes NE of Luganville and spotted a TF composed of 5 old BB, a CA, 2 DD and 4 DMS and was heading NW. Interesting. The DMS suggested to me that it was a bombardment TF headed to a base with mines. Tulagi? Only time would tell. The 2 carriers I spotted yesterday was a separate TF because this one only has a few auxiliary aircraft in it and the TF spotted yesterday had 70 fighters and 55 bombers. Still, I was uncertain about the TF yesterday thinking this could possibly be the same one and I just didn't spot the carriers today.

If it was a bombardment TF, I thought I could ambush them. I have KB2 (Soryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku, 105 Zeros, 51 Vals, 51 Kates) stationed at Truk (KB1 is at Yokohama). I sent KB2 south with a light escort of 3 Akitsukis and 3 Yugumos. The heavier escorts were all part of the Munda bombardment group and were currently repairing the light damage they sustained during their steaming. So, I was going to be cautious with KB2. If the enemy carriers were spotted, I'd rethink my ambush.

Also, Shokaku had just gotten a load of the long range A6M3a. The intent was to use them as the bomber escort and use the A6M2s aboard the other 2 carriers as CAP. The issue was that, of the 36+3 Zeros aboard, 18 were still being assembled. If they weren't ready, I'd go with the normal 60% CAP, 40% escort configuration. Actually, it doesn't really matter yet because my max range for the bombers was 6 hexes, the max normal range for the Val. It only comes into play when I get the B6N2 Jill, which won't happen until Feb 43.

Oh yeah, the I-121 was on her way to Munda with 40 mines. She was 2 days out. I didn't realize it at the time, but she would play a major role...

I was nervous, concerned and excited all at the same time. :lol:
Obviously, you're ahead in the game of the AAR and you've got something to share later. ;)

My thoughts given what you have:
Doubt Ted would mix Deathstar with old BB's, it would really slow the Deathstar down, although those old BB's would be effective bomb soaks against your KB. The "CV's" you saw could have been an AV? Unless you got "hits" in your Op's notes about SBD scouts in the area ... that is generally my best confirmation of Deathstar location .... the SBD's give it away ....

In any case, I would get Mavis/Emily in the area and confirm what is what. You can run them +20 range for a couple of turns for a looksee ....






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Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 2:05 pm
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26 Sentai (12 Nates), 2 Air Division, Kwangtung, training
26 Sentai Det A (12 Sonia), 2 Air Division, Kwangtung, training
26 Sentai Det A (12 Sonia), 2 Air Division, Kwangtung, training
The two dets can eventually convert to fighters and combine with the main body, but the earliest fighter they can convert to is the Ki-43-IIb, which doesn't appear until 2/43. They'll train bombers until then, then convert to the IIb, then convert to the Nate and combine with the main body. Pain in the butt.

The Ki-44-IIc R&D advanced to 10/43 and is estimated to become operational around 12/11/42. I have 7 R&D factories working and am producing 210 engines a day, so all of the production is going to R&D. The Ha-49-IIa is operational but I'm not producing any so all 7 R&D Tojo factories will be doubled. When the Tojo becomes operational, the idea was to build 90 Tojos and 60 Helens, using 210 engines per month. Four R&D factories would be reallocated to something else. Nothing else will use the Ha-34 engine so the pool would remain. What I have decided to do is to allow all 7x30 Tojo factories to become operational, using all of the Ha-34 production and allowing 7 Tojos a day to be built. The Helens will begin producing 60 per month. The net effect would be to draw down the pool by 120 per month. It will start around 11 Dec 42. I will maintain this until the end of March 43. At that time, 4x30 Tojo factories will be allocated to R&D (airframe to be determined). At that time, the Ha-34 pool should be around 60. By the end of March 43 (220 days) I'll have produced 1540 Tojos and 440 Helens. I estimate that, on the front line (3 and 5 Air Divisions), I'll need 240 Tojos and 78 Oscars. When the pool is drawn down at the end of March 43 and the 4 Tojo factories have shifted back to R&D, I'll be producing 90 Tojo IIc and 60 Helen IIa (210 Ha-34 engines needed per month) along with 60 of the newest model Oscar per month. That will remain constant until the Frank arrives at some unknown date.
This, gentle readers, is what is known as "planning" and "logistics". This is what Mike does best, and he can do it in his sleep. AMAZING!

I would really work out your Frank delivery plan, and get it ASAP. There are 3 planes that I am convinced are crucial to IJ success, and they cannot come soon enough: A7M, Ki84, N1K ... and if you can get A7M early enough, you can leave off the N1K. But Ki84 ... it is far and away the best plane for the IJA, and +65% of your total fighter groups are IJA ... ergo, Ki84 is just THAT crucial. The "b" model is best, but the devs buried it in RnD purgatory, so its a no-go*. You have to go Ki84a and then upgrade to the Ki84r, but the "a" model is good enough to start.

So, take some time (in between bouncing the grandkids on your knee) and work it out. It's worth every supply point that you will spend ... nothing gives you a bigger return. Can't wait to see what you work out ... 8-)


* I'm not dissing the devs here. All of the IJ "models" are in fact a conglomeration of production figures. Models as we know in the west weren't really used in IJ at time, for them it was more like productions runs, or like "blocks" that are now used. There were lots of them and it's pretty hard to assign them to "models' without having hundreds of them. So the devs did the best they could, really. To do it more accurately, they would had to have introduced the concept of "field changes", and in general armaments were under that category. Everyone on all sides played with armaments on the aircraft in the field routinely. The SOV's got rid of the clunky big cannon in the P39 nose and swapped it for a fast firing, smooth, 20mm that just trashed everything it ran across. The brits swapped out rifle caliber MG's for bigger ones and back again all the time on Hurri's and Spits depending upon what they were facing. All done in the field. But new concepts were not part of the contract, so a no-go.



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Thanks for the info. Yes, what happens happened a while back. I just sent the 15 October turn back.

Concerning his 2/4E bombers. There has been a large drop off in sorties. My guess is the Nicks are damaging a lot of bombers in addition to shooting some down so that he has more down for damage/maintenance. I've been tracking some of the bombers to get a rough estimate on how many he may have in total. I'm going to track it a different way soon, but that'll take some research (opening the game as the Allies) and I don't want to do that until I catch up here.

My rough estimate of how many bombers he has as of 15 October:

B25C: 55, replacement rate of 20 through 1/43
B26B: 30, no replacements

B17E: 130, no replacements
B17F: 45, no replacements
B24D: 75, replacement rate of 15 through 1/43

So yeah, he still has a large number of bombers, especially 4Es, but my 2 sentai of Nicks are hurting him (I think). I hope to have a more accurate number in a few days.
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Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:35 pm ...
So yeah, he still has a large number of bombers, especially 4Es, but my 2 sentai of Nicks are hurting him (I think). I hope to have a more accurate number in a few days.
Losing 9 in 1 day is a BIG hurt. that's almost 2/3 of a months replacements, a BIG deal. not to mention that 1 or 2 more prolly ate it upon RTB.




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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)

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PaxMondo wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:29 pm
I would really work out your Frank delivery plan, and get it ASAP. There are 3 planes that I am convinced are crucial to IJ success, and they cannot come soon enough: A7M, Ki84, N1K ... and if you can get A7M early enough, you can leave off the N1K. But Ki84 ... it is far and away the best plane for the IJA, and +65% of your total fighter groups are IJA ... ergo, Ki84 is just THAT crucial. The "b" model is best, but the devs buried it in RnD purgatory, so its a no-go. You have to go Ki84a and then upgrade to the Ki84r, but the "a" model is good enough to start.

So, take some time (in between bouncing the grandkids on your knee) and work it out. It's worth every supply point that you will spend ... nothing gives you a bigger return. Can't wait to see what you work out ... 8-)

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I have 18 R&D factories each on the Frank, Sam and George. Here's their status (# repaired per 30 plane factory):

Frank: 19, 18x3, 17x3, 16x2, 15x3, 14, 13x3, 11x2 - operational currently at 1/44

Sam: 15, 11x2, 10x3, 9x4, 8x2, 7x2, 6x2, 5x2 - operational currently at 6/45

George: 30x2, 28, 27, 26, 24, 23, 21x3, 20x2, 19x2, 18x2, 16, 8
-The Ha-45 pool is at 795 and the last 4 (of 6) factories will finish repairing tomorrow. The total engine production will be 570, or 19 a day. Operational status is still at 7/43. Research is currently at 57% and increasing at 4% per day. This is the first thing I check every turn.

I anticipate thousands of Ha-45 engines in the pool, which will serve me well. I'm hoping that will last the dent the George and Frank research make in it until the George advances to the K5, when it uses the Ha-43 engine. By that time, I should have a huge pool of the Ha-43. That engine will be needed for the George R5 and the Sam. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it to see how many I'll need to produce. It looks like it'll need to be about 1000. That hurts just thinking about it. The Ha-43 R&D is at 180. I guess by that time, much of my other air frames and engines will be shut off.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)

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PaxMondo wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:42 pm
Mike Solli wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:35 pm ...
So yeah, he still has a large number of bombers, especially 4Es, but my 2 sentai of Nicks are hurting him (I think). I hope to have a more accurate number in a few days.
Losing 9 in 1 day is a BIG hurt. that's almost 2/3 of a months replacements, a BIG deal. not to mention that 1 or 2 more prolly ate it upon RTB.




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Yep, and at this point, only the B-24D is getting replacements, and only 15 a month. I think Ted has realized that his 4E bombers are basically what he has in hand right now. He probably loses close to 15 a month as op losses/written off. He needs to husband them for critical operations. He just doesn't have enough to bomb everything in sight without attriting his bomber force to nothing.

By the way, I'm a bachelor until Thursday and am "stuck" at the beach in Myrtle Beach. My wife is on vacation with her siblings and Mom about 30 miles south of me. I drive with her so she doesn't have to make the 600 mile trek by car alone. Then I stay at a resort we bought into years ago and "rough it". :lol: Lots of time for this infernal game. Time to go walk the beach to get some sun and exercise.
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PaxMondo wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:13 pm
My thoughts given what you have:
Doubt Ted would mix Deathstar with old BB's, it would really slow the Deathstar down, although those old BB's would be effective bomb soaks against your KB. The "CV's" you saw could have been an AV? Unless you got "hits" in your Op's notes about SBD scouts in the area ... that is generally my best confirmation of Deathstar location .... the SBD's give it away ....

In any case, I would get Mavis/Emily in the area and confirm what is what. You can run them +20 range for a couple of turns for a looksee ....

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I agree. I think there were 2 TFs out there, the BBs and the CVs. That CV TF appears on the fringe of my naval search every now and then but never does anything. I think he's doing that to be ready for an opportunity that never seems to happen. I've been known to be wrong though...
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2 Oct 42

Sub War

So it begins! The I-168 drew first blood. She spotted the BB TF 4 hexes SE of Tulagi and launched 4 torpedoes at BB Colorado. One hit. I never saw Colorado again. I suspect the game put her and an escort in an escort TF and they fled the scene.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report....yet!

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

The Tojo sentai swept Woodlark island shooting down a Wildcat at a cost of 3 Tojos (2 KIA, 1 MIA). Sheesh. Then the Zeros swept shooting down 3 Wildcats at a cost of 1 Zero (MIA).

So, after the BB TF was "interrupted" by I-168, they continued on, most likely without Colorado and an escort and finished the day just 2 hexes SE of Tulagi. I had subs in the area. Most were transiting the area either headed to hunting grounds farther south or returning for more fuel from said hunting grounds. By the way, I-168 was headed home for fuel and minor repairs and had seen nothing until finding Colorado. Tulagi had a minefield of 147 mines. Recall that there were 150 yesterday but the ACM tending them was sunk just yesterday by bombers. The I-121 was sending a load of 40 mines to Munda and was just 2 hexes from Munda. I changed her destination to Tulagi figuring she would get in and out and add to the mine collection there. I-23 was close enough to set up shop 2 hexes south of Tulagi where her Glen could keep an eye on things. Three others in the area were to the south on station and too far to get there in time. I left them in place in case the BBs retired to the south. There were also 3 subs south of Milne Bay and too far away. I left them there, just in case events headed in that direction.

So, what of KB2? It ended the day 12 hexes NE of Tulagi. I deliberated for a long time on where to position them. I ended up giving them a target hex 4 hexes ENE of Tulagi, 9 hexes away from their position. They would be able to reach that position in the morning and have all day to pummel the BBs, should they stick around.

All of this was well within range of the Dinahs on naval search. I was really concerned that all 6 pre-war CVs were hanging around just out of vision and it was a big set up. It didn't feel that way though. I couldn't see Ted using his BBs as a target. I sent the turn off and hoped for the best.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

Nothing to report.

China

The Zeros shot down 3 of 6 P-66s over Chungking clearing the skies for the coming bombers.

The bombers hit the same 3 targets. Just so you have an idea of how big these attacks are, I had 35x 1E and 139x 2E sorties.

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Reinforcement
16 Field Construction Battalion, 2 Area Army, headed to Burma where the HQ is located. I was reluctant to send it there, but it turns out it'll get there just as I need it. More on Burma saga later...
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