[WAD][1868] Abilities of PIPRS sensor

[Knightpawn]

Is it normal for an early 80's PIPRS sensor on a creeping sub at -400ft to detect airplane sounds at distances of +50nm or so?

See picture. Locate the Oberon Class sub off the coast of Vietnam

[EDIT: SAVE file now uploaded]

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[thewood1]

Since the PIPRS's whole reason to be is detecting active sonar pings then IDing them, I would assume its detecting the ping from a dipping sonar. And yes, if conditions are right, its plausible.

[thewood1]

btw, if you had posted a save, some smart person could have looked to see what that helo was actually doing. And not just guess.

[Knightpawn]

btw, if you had posted a save, some smart person could have looked to see what that helo was actually doing. And not just guess.

The forum was unwilling to accept (my) zip uploads last night. I will try again this evening.

I did not think of the explanation that detections are dipping sonars. That could be it. I will look the save if this could be the case. However, I would expect the detection message to be different - that an active sonar was detected rather than an unknow air contact (bogey).

[Knightpawn]

I have now uploaded a save at the original post

[Nikel]

It is indeed the sonar of the aircraft what is detected.

In this case a dipping sonar of the helo Mi-14PLM Haze A.

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[Knightpawn]

It is indeed the sonar of the aircraft what is detected.

In this case a dipping sonar of the helo Mi-14PLM Haze A.


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Yes indeed. Thanks. It seems to be so. I was confused because the sub' log was classifying the contact not as an active sonar, but as a "bogey"

[Nikel]

Perhaps on the right panel the info should not be unknown type, but automatically classified as ASW.

Because if you detect a sonar from an air contact, it is performing ASW, is it not?

[Knightpawn]

Perhaps on the right panel the info should not be unknown type, but automatically classified as ASW.

Because if you detect a sonar from an air contact, it is performing ASW, is it not?

The question (my question) is does a sub that detects a far away active sonar know whether the contact is of a ship or of a asw helo? If not, the player receives more information that he deserves. That was my point.

[Nikel]

You may ask the AI how they know it. Chatgpt created this table with some details.

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[thewood1]

Perhaps on the right panel the info should not be unknown type, but automatically classified as ASW.

Because if you detect a sonar from an air contact, it is performing ASW, is it not?

The question (my question) is does a sub that detects a far away active sonar know whether the contact is of a ship or of a asw helo? If not, the player receives more information that he deserves. That was my point.

Large navies have sonar classification databases built specifically for this.

[Knightpawn]

@Nikel & @thewood1

Thanks

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