Al Kibar strike 2007 (for testing)

[Nikel]

You did not use Israel Comms Jammers?

[Mark352]

You did not use Israel Comms Jammers?

I did. I had three EC-707 and along with three Gulfstream G550 AEW deployed. The record is unclear on how many of these aircraft were used. I may have deviated from history on that.

[Nikel]

I did. I had three EC-707 and along with three Gulfstream G550 AEW deployed. The record is unclear on how many of these aircraft were used. I may have deviated from history on that.

I asked because the out of comms units may ditch due to fuel, not important if the Turkish F-16s did not intercept you.

But also zombify the MiGs and always caused trouble when the Israeli bombers were RTB along the coast.

For that reason I changed the 2nd refueling to W Cyprus, and also inactivated earlier the jammers missions.

[Knightpawn]

I like playing and experimenting with historical recreations. A scenario recreating Operation Orchard is right in my wheelhouse. It took several tries to achieve a victory. First attempt was failure with only 15 points. Another attempt I got 115 points. Finally I achieved major victory with 250 points. Destroyed the reactor, but lost one F-15 to an SA-5 just as the aircraft crossed the Syrian coast.

I tried to stay historically accurate and routed the strike package north between Lebanon/Syria and Cyprus where the first refueling was. The package crossed the Syrian coast and headed north towards the border, but avoided Turkish airspace. Then headed southeast past Tell Abyad. I did not include the Weasel package in the mission. The three F-15’s and four F-16’s launched their weapons destroying the reactor and the pump house.

All aircraft egressed along the same route, exited Syrian airspace, refueled again northeast of Cyprus and returned to base heading south. One challenging part for me was determining the refueling areas for the mission. I used flightplans for all missions during the scenario.

I played v1.1 using DB518 on Steam.

Overall a challenging scenario. I recommend it. I’ll certainly play it again.

This is all very nice to hear and encouraging to try for more. Indeed my purpose was to recreate a historically accurate scenario as much as possible. Congratulations for the purist / "flight-plan only" achievement.

[Blast33]

Some actual developments. Sat pic from 29th of August 2026. IA

https://apnews.com/article/syria-nuclea ... b16442b963
https://x.com/ayatsubzero/status/2097792919914618982

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[Mark352]

I did. I had three EC-707 and along with three Gulfstream G550 AEW deployed. The record is unclear on how many of these aircraft were used. I may have deviated from history on that.

I asked because the out of comms units may ditch due to fuel, not important if the Turkish F-16s did not intercept you.

But also zombify the MiGs and always caused trouble when the Israeli bombers were RTB along the coast.

For that reason I changed the 2nd refueling to W Cyprus, and also inactivated earlier the jammers missions.

I have noticed that Syrian MiGs are listed as losses (up to 16), but the Israel aircraft did not shoot them down. According to the end of game losses, neither did the Turkish aircraft. Are these the so called zombified MiGs? Seems odd, maybe a bug, that the MiGs can't find their way back to base. I haven't played this in editor mode, so I've haven't seen what's happening with those aircraft. I might give that a try.

[Nikel]

I have noticed that Syrian MiGs are listed as losses (up to 16), but the Israel aircraft did not shoot them down. According to the end of game losses, neither did the Turkish aircraft. Are these the so called zombified MiGs? Seems odd, maybe a bug, that the MiGs can't find their way back to base. I haven't played this in editor mode, so I've haven't seen what's happening with those aircraft. I might give that a try.

I think it is a bug, reported in this thread (started for another out of comms reason), with other examples of similar behavior.

Strange that you did not encounter them when RTB


https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 6#p5289556


It may also happens to the Turkish F-16s if they take off.