SPWAW Graphics Needed (?)

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Sun Aug 05, 2001 8:52 pm

Hello all,

as there are many unused graphic slots free for use in the several SPWAW shape files (82,83,84,85,86,90 and more) I plan to add some. I already made a full "winter" set of existing SPWAW wooden buildings to see if they may improve the look of winter maps.
http://members.surfeu.de/ug2010/SPWAW/winterbuildings.jpg

It isn´t too dificult to change other graphics from SPWAW for other use either. Here´s a former "Stone multihex building" converted to "single hex" wood building with garden.
http://members.surfeu.de/ug2010/SPWAW/Tigergarden.jpg

Any ideas out there for other additions or even new graphics? Maybe you have access to apropriate overhead graphics or photos and would like to have them added as SPWAW graphics? They don´t need to be buildings only, they also can be emplacements or natural objects.

What I´m looking for are Photos/Graphics from: Bombed out city buildings, bailey bridges, mediterranean woods n´trees, birch trees, supply depots, trench lines, special weapon emplacements like V1 or V2, other buildings not to be found already in SPWAW, ...

Would be happy to hear some other ideas or start a discussion here. Also any offers for the above items are welcome.

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Harry

Warrior · Post by **Warrior** » Sun Aug 05, 2001 10:09 pm

These are GREAT, Harry! You da MAN!!

Marder_MatrixForum · Post by **Marder_MatrixForum** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 1:04 am

Some new city graphics would be nice. Would need some new buildings for a big vienna map.

Your screenshots looks great! Hope they are downloadable soon

Marder

pops · Post by **pops** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 1:23 am

I always thought more terrain features would be good to add variety....

RUsco · Post by **RUsco** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 1:42 am

Jungle huts

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 2:24 am

I one of the scenarios, Wild Bill even had "fog" which hung over the map. It was a great addition.

alassi · Post by **alassi** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 2:01 pm

I loved those winter buildings..is it possible to download those???

Mark McIntosh · Post by **Mark McIntosh** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 1:58 am

The winter graphics are great! Something I've needed as a scenario designer are castles/chateaus.

BruceAZ · Post by **BruceAZ** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 7:46 am

Hi Harry:

I would like to see an improved bridge design including trestle and rail, a transport ship like an old Liberty Ship, something that looks like a real radio tower, more military buildings, a log foot bridge, a non-road vehicle trail with two lines that look like trails but are vehicle tire marks, PT Boat, and some non-moveable airplanes that can be used in airport scenarios.

Do you need more?

Don · Post by **Don** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 10:47 am

I've been trying for about 6 months to get corduroy raod graphics in the game - I can find pics if you need them. But they need to affect movement - slower than a road and faster than a swamp.

Cromort · Post by **Cromort** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 12:00 pm

They are just great RockinHarry.
The more the better, and even more when the graphics are so nice :rolleyes:

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. "
- General George Patton (1885-1945)

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 12:28 am

Hi all,

Originally posted by Marder:
Some new city graphics would be nice. Would need some new buildings for a big vienna map.

Your screenshots looks great! Hope they are downloadable soon

Marder

Marder,..do you think the SPWAW row houses don´t include european city buildings? Do you have aerial photos or graphics, so I know how they look like?

Originally posted by pops:
I always thought more terrain features would be good to add variety....

Pops,..some ideas or suggestions?

Originally posted by RUsco:
Jungle huts

Rusco..how would they look like?

Originally posted by Randy:
I one of the scenarios, Wild Bill even had "fog" which hung over the map. It was a great addition.

Randy,...see "smoke thread"!
http://www.matrixgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=006589

Originally posted by alassi:
I loved those winter buildings..is it possible to download those???

Yes...here they are, although they have a little "flaw". Unzip in shape folder and overwrite the existing ter082.shp file. Ter082 is User1 wooden buildings. You can access them in SPWAW map editor, by choosing Use1 in wooden buildings menu and then "SHIFT-1" to access the single buildings. They´re located in slot numbers 74-145. The buildings actually are a "mirror" of the existing wooden buildings you also find in slots 0-72 in same Shape file.
As I found that probably stone and wooden buildings looks the same from above when covered with snow, you also can convert the wooden (snow) buildings to stone by using Freds MapEdit. See V5.0 SPWAW manual how to do. This also saves slots in the other shapefiles but there might be a need for snow covered row or multihex buildings also?

BTW: Don´t forget to backup the original shp82 shape files. (Ter082z1 - Ter082z4.shp !!!)
http://members.surfeu.de/ug2010/SPWAW/Terrain82Shapes.zip

--> right click --> "save target as..."

Originally posted by Mark McIntosh:
The winter graphics are great! Something I've needed as a scenario designer are castles/chateaus.

Good idea mark,..have some photos or graphics? Maybe a useful internet link? In existing SPWAW multihex buildings shapefiles are some useful graphics, that may serve as a base for converting them to this kind of buildings.

Originally posted by 5thRecon:
Hi Harry:

I would like to see an improved bridge design including trestle and rail, a transport ship like an old Liberty Ship, something that looks like a real radio tower, more military buildings, a log foot bridge, a non-road vehicle trail with two lines that look like trails but are vehicle tire marks, PT Boat, and some non-moveable airplanes that can be used in airport scenarios.

Do you need more?

Interesting Ideas 5thRecon! Trestle and rail bridge: Do you mean these engineer built war bridges? Have photos or graphics of these?
Liberty ship: Do you know one of the existing ships in SPWAW OOB that look similar and may be used? Radio tower: I think there´s something like that in the multihex building files that may be extracted and used as new graphic. Will look into it. More military buildings: which specific? have photos or example pics? Log foot bridge: I used "gully" graphic as some kind of foot bridge in the italy 44 scenario. Is this what you want? I made it for "non-vehicle" units traversable only, by placing an invisible "wreck" beneath it in Freds MapEdit. Vehicle trail: I used the "Path" shapes (file Ter46.shp) for this purpose. Can be placed in Freds MapEd in layer6. PT-Boat: Do we have something looking similar in existing OOBs? Non moveable airplanes: Good idea. I think some generic types should do it? There´are so many....

Remember, if using graphics from OOB, they are not sizeable as the real unit icons.(Preferences->icon size xxx 1-3), so what size do we need?

Originally posted by Don:
I've been trying for about 6 months to get corduroy raod graphics in the game - I can find pics if you need them. But they need to affect movement - slower than a road and faster than a swamp.

Don...can´t find translation for "corduroy" road, so what is it? Please show some pics or make a link available. If placing tiles in shape files 86 or 90, then layer 6 will be used. That means you place non-building graphics on the map without any terrain statistics. This "corduroy" road placed here would mean it has "clear" terrain statistics. Is this what you intent?

I still like to know sources for topview pictures of the various new terrain graphics. Especially (free) internet sources are higly welcome.

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Harry

skukko · Post by **skukko** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 2:37 am

Ambulance.

mosh

David boutwell · Post by **David boutwell** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:13 am

RockinHarry,

Do you have written instructions for working with building graphics? I have done some modifying of existing buildings at the largest magnification, but don't you have to create all three magnification levels for each building that you produce? If so how do you do it?

I'd love to work with you, as I enjoy producing maps probably more than I like playing scenarios! I'm currently finishing a 100X180 map of Hill 112 and surrounding villages. Custom Western European villas with outbuildings would be a great thing to have. Most of the old multi-hex houses are not consistent in scale with the single hex houses, or they are for North Africa.

David Boutwell
boutwell@erols.com

Belisarius · Post by **Belisarius** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:13 pm

@RockinHarry: Great graphics! Can't wait to test them!

And an explanation to Don's post: 'Corduroy' - think of the zig-zag pattern the tyre grooves make in soft ground...

(question: As English is not my native lang either, what exactly is courduroy? Is it a name of a pattern or is it the textile? I know there are, or was, cuorduroy pants and jackets and stuff, very popular in the 70's and among the teacher's staff

But here we call it Manchester... )

SAMWolf · Post by **SAMWolf** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:20 pm

Originally posted by Belisarius:
@RockinHarry: Great graphics! Can't wait to test them!

And an explanation to Don's post: 'Corduroy' - think of the zig-zag pattern the tyre grooves make in soft ground...

(question: As English is not my native lang either, what exactly is courduroy? Is it a name of a pattern or is it the textile? I know there are, or was, cuorduroy pants and jackets and stuff, very popular in the 70's and among the teacher's staff But here we call it Manchester... )

This is going a ways back (Grammar school days) but a Corduroy Road was a road in the backwoods and swampy districts of the U.S. formed of the halves of trees sawn in two longitudinally, and laid transversely across the track. A road thus made presents a ribbed appearance, like the cloth called corduroy.

Marder_MatrixForum · Post by **Marder_MatrixForum** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 9:28 pm

to rockin harry

"Marder,..do you think the SPWAW row houses don´t include european city buildings? Do you have aerial photos or graphics, so I know how they look like?"

no i don´t think so, the new graphics are very european, i would just need some buildings like a university or a big museum (7-hexes buildings-especially diagonal)
And perhaps a "rubble on the street"-graphic!

Marder

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Fri Aug 10, 2001 1:44 am

Originally posted by skukko:
Ambulance.

mosh

Heh mosh....what does that mean???

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Harry

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Fri Aug 10, 2001 1:50 am

Originally posted by David boutwell:
RockinHarry,

Do you have written instructions for working with building graphics? I have done some modifying of existing buildings at the largest magnification, but don't you have to create all three magnification levels for each building that you produce? If so how do you do it?

I'd love to work with you, as I enjoy producing maps probably more than I like playing scenarios! I'm currently finishing a 100X180 map of Hill 112 and surrounding villages. Custom Western European villas with outbuildings would be a great thing to have. Most of the old multi-hex houses are not consistent in scale with the single hex houses, or they are for North Africa.

David Boutwell
boutwell@erols.com

Hi David,

I´ll prepare some stuff and post this later as I need some time for it. Generally I do the same,...modifying existing stuff and placing it back in the shapefiles. More details in a day or two.

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Harry

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Fri Aug 10, 2001 1:55 am

Originally posted by SAMWolf:

This is going a ways back (Grammar school days) but a Corduroy Road was a road in the backwoods and swampy districts of the U.S. formed of the halves of trees sawn in two longitudinally, and laid transversely across the track. A road thus made presents a ribbed appearance, like the cloth called corduroy.
Thanx Samwolf,

In german these are "Knueppel-Damm" (log road/dam).

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Harry