The Movie Troy

[Von Rom]

It could be the angle.

Here is a Macedonian helmet circa 300 BC:

[riverbravo]

I saw it last night.

Yes they did change a few things but,as I am a historical nut as well,but I REALLY was suprised and liked it.

I want the DVD!!

I really enjoyed the sword play and looking at the costumes.

The horse at the end looked neat as well.

Brad Pitt played a good role.

Like all good movies it grabs you from the start with a battle scene,,,Wow that was a big dude Achilles wiped out.

Im glad I saw this movie on the big screen.

[Von Rom]

ORIGINAL: riverbravo

I saw it last night.

Yes they did change a few things but,as I am a historical nut as well,but I REALLY was suprised and liked it.

I want the DVD!!

I really enjoyed the sword play and looking at the costumes.

The horse at the end looked neat as well.

Brad Pitt played a good role.

Like all good movies it grabs you from the start with a battle scene,,,Wow that was a big dude Achilles wiped out.

Im glad I saw this movie on the big screen.

Yeah, it's a big screen movie

I agree about the horse - I was expecting a Hollywood prefab - but it actually looks like it was built from ships. . .

Now I'm getting in the mood to play some ancient wargames.

I hope in the near future Matrix has an ancient wargame in the plans. Perhaps a game that is flexible enough to cover all ancient warfare for Rome and earlier. A big, colourful strategic map with perhaps tactical turn-based combat. . .

[Tomus]

I liked it as well. Great film and Sean Bean as Odysseus is a brilliant choice.[:)]

[Marc von Martial]

I thought it was one of the worst movies released in the the last 12 months. Muchos hyphe, was bored like hell .[:(]

[Von Rom]

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

I thought it was one of the worst movies released in the the last 12 months. Muchos hyphe, was bored like hell .[:(]

Goes to show how subjective some things scan be, such as food, books, etc. . . [:D]

[tiredoftryingnames]

I have a question for the guys that have seen it. I have been interested in teh movie since i saw the previews. But someone told me that there was a bunch of flipping around while swordfighting that seemed more for the matrix than ancient combat? is there any of that?

[Belisarius]

An Alexander the Great movie?

That should prove interesting. If there's anyone who would have appeared semi-godlike to his contemporaries, it would be Alexander. All his conquests aside, it's the character transformation that is really interesting. From cunningly using his skills and the heritage from Phillip, uniting Hellas and then ending the Persian threat once and for all, achieving a demi-god status in the process...yikes! Hope they don't lose it in cgi-rendered mega-battles. Although the battle of Gaugamela in 331 b.c. would be nice. It'd make the siege of Gondor look like child's play. [:'(]

[showboat1]

I read where Brad Pitt said that by the end of the year he expected to see men wearing skirts due to this movie. Has he been drug tested recently???

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: Von Rom

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

I thought it was one of the worst movies released in the the last 12 months. Muchos hyphe, was bored like hell .[:(]

Goes to show how subjective some things scan be, such as food, books, etc. . . [:D]

Definetly [;)] , it´s not that bad but I was pretty disapointed.

[Von Rom]

ORIGINAL: tiredoftryingnames

I have a question for the guys that have seen it. I have been interested in teh movie since i saw the previews. But someone told me that there was a bunch of flipping around while swordfighting that seemed more for the matrix than ancient combat? is there any of that?

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it.

In legend and in history, Achilles was a great warrior, having never been defeated in battle.

In the movie, Achilles (Pitt) uses great dexterity, speed and cunning to move around much larger foes. It seemed to be natural and not gimmicky to me. In other words, you won't see a computer animated Pitt bouncing around ala Spiderman [;)]

[Von Rom]

ORIGINAL: Belisarius

An Alexander the Great movie?

That should prove interesting. If there's anyone who would have appeared semi-godlike to his contemporaries, it would be Alexander. All his conquests aside, it's the character transformation that is really interesting. From cunningly using his skills and the heritage from Phillip, uniting Hellas and then ending the Persian threat once and for all, achieving a demi-god status in the process...yikes! Hope they don't lose it in cgi-rendered mega-battles. Although the battle of Gaugamela in 331 b.c. would be nice. It'd make the siege of Gondor look like child's play. [:'(]

I'm also looking forward to the film. Apparently, Stone has wanted to make this film for six years now. So, if it's a special project for him, then I am expecting a good film.

CGi isn't too bad if used sparingly. But I agree that I would rather see big batttles as depicted realistically in Sparatcus and Braveheart, than the CGI in the LoTR.

Cheers!

[Von Rom]

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

ORIGINAL: Von Rom

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

I thought it was one of the worst movies released in the the last 12 months. Muchos hyphe, was bored like hell .[:(]

Goes to show how subjective some things scan be, such as food, books, etc. . . [:D]

Definetly [;)] , it´s not that bad but I was pretty disapointed.

I guess for me, personally, there have been so few movies about ancient Greece (especially in the past 30 years) that I was more than happy to watch (and revel in) the atmosphere of the setting of this movie. I can honestly say that it didn't disappoint me at all [:)]

[NefariousKoel]

ORIGINAL: Von Rom

Now I'm getting in the mood to play some ancient wargames.

I hope in the near future Matrix has an ancient wargame in the plans. Perhaps a game that is flexible enough to cover all ancient warfare for Rome and earlier. A big, colourful strategic map with perhaps tactical turn-based combat. . .

I'm not waiting that long. Spartan comes out on the shelves here in the states in approx. 2 days. It's as good as mine since I have a gamestop gift card sitting around asking me for a wargame.

[Tomus]

ORIGINAL: tiredoftryingnames

I have a question for the guys that have seen it. I have been interested in teh movie since i saw the previews. But someone told me that there was a bunch of flipping around while swordfighting that seemed more for the matrix than ancient combat? is there any of that?

Actually the fighting is pretty good and feels relatively "Authentic" yes its jazzed up but thats what you would expect when hero fights hero but its grounded in reality. There is nothing that you couldn't do physically yourself.

What I missed were the serried ranks of Hopolites holding their shield wall and using their sarissa's. But I don't think that type of combat had been invented at the time of Troy,

[Belisarius]

ORIGINAL: Tomus

ORIGINAL: tiredoftryingnames

I have a question for the guys that have seen it. I have been interested in teh movie since i saw the previews. But someone told me that there was a bunch of flipping around while swordfighting that seemed more for the matrix than ancient combat? is there any of that?

Actually the fighting is pretty good and feels relatively "Authentic" yes its jazzed up but thats what you would expect when hero fights hero but its grounded in reality. There is nothing that you couldn't do physically yourself.

What I missed were the serried ranks of Hopolites holding their shield wall and using their sarissa's. But I don't think that type of combat had been invented at the time of Troy,

IIRC, the Hoplite phalanx with Sarissas came to be first 800 years later, around 400 b.c. and the Pelopponesian wars. Another thing to look forward to in an Alexander the Great movie.[:)]

I'm sure Rune has some input on this, if he's around...

[Tomus]

You are right I think one of the main weapons at that time was the sling? Infantry combat was relatively limited??

I dunno its a good place to research I must admit.

[Belisarius]

I think the shield and spear was the basic equipment for the infantry, along with the bow and arrow.

If I'm not completely mistaken, the clashes were more challenges between individual champions rather than whole formation. At least as it's depicted in the Iliad. [;)]

Since the phalanx formation, and thus the hoplites, weren't developed until the 8th century b.c., the Trojan wars (if they ever took place!) probably were individual fights in massed clashes. That would also explain why the champions were so important for the outcome, rather than the closed ranks of organized heavy infantry.

[tiredoftryingnames]

Thanks for the info on the combat. I'll have to go see it now. That's why I asked. The person that saw it is of dubious movie review quality and they tend to exaggerate when they don't like something. Which is most of the time.

[riverbravo]

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

I thought it was one of the worst movies released in the the last 12 months. Muchos hyphe, was bored like hell .[:(]

Not enough digital animation for ya bro?[;)]