War in Russia-Type Western Front Game

mjmooney · Post by **mjmooney** » Mon Oct 16, 2000 1:19 am

Hey all!

I seem to recall (in the musty attic that is my memory) that War In Russia was an evolution of a Western Front Game (Corps as shells containing combat units-that sort of thing)--Is it? and if there is, any plans for updating and releasing it? (MJMooney tries to ignore the moaning that must accompany cheesy requests like this for another free game)By the way I thought I was the only dyed in the whool Pacwar fan out there-I want to thank you guys for Updating it and I will be one on a very long list waiting for War in the Pacific. Thanks again for taking up the torch of good old fashiond war games. Im sick of companies going the real time build it and throw a bunch at the red player route.

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Ed Cogburn · Post by **Ed Cogburn** » Mon Oct 16, 2000 12:04 pm

Originally posted by mjmooney:
Hey all!

I seem to recall (in the musty attic that is my memory) that War In Russia was an evolution of a Western Front Game (Corps as shells containing combat units-that sort of thing)--Is it? and if there is, any plans for updating and releasing it? (MJMooney tries to ignore the moaning that must accompany cheesy requests like this for another free game)By the way I thought I was the only dyed in the whool Pacwar fan out there-I want to thank you guys for Updating it and I will be one on a very long list waiting for War in the Pacific. Thanks again for taking up the torch of good old fashiond war games. Im sick of companies going the real time build it and throw a bunch at the red player route.

Ok, first I don't represent Matrix.....

The game you're talking about is, I believe, "West Front". Matrix has never mentioned any more work on free games, and they haven't mentioned "West Front" specifically, but I've noticed, and would someone else confirm this please, that in my browser, the "tooltips" message when the mouse pointer is over the Matrix Games URL, says "War in the West: From the Beaches to Berlin, 1943-1945", so at least they are thinking about a western front game of WWII, but Matrix probably can't afford any more free games, its time for us to pay up, so they can make even more games.

Windo von Paene · Post by **Windo von Paene** » Mon Oct 16, 2000 7:55 pm

Yes I've seen that "tooltip" as well, although I've seen it in the titlebar of my browser. Usually it's only there for a few seconds, then it gets replaced. Thought I was going nuts in that no one else had ever mentioned it.

Ed Cogburn · Post by **Ed Cogburn** » Tue Oct 17, 2000 7:20 am

Originally posted by Windo von Paene:
Yes I've seen that "tooltip" as well, although I've seen it in the titlebar of my browser. Usually it's only there for a few seconds, then it gets replaced. Thought I was going nuts in that no one else had ever mentioned it.

Same here, I haven't heard one word, from anyone at all, about a West Front game. Maybe its a deliberate tease from Matrix, kinda like the names of those private message forums.

Come on Matrix, is a West Front WWII strategy game planned or do you just like toying with your future customers? Enough is enough, spill the beans!

varjager · Post by **varjager** » Tue Oct 17, 2000 11:46 am

I would like yo se a remake of western front.
I am willing to pay for these games.Cause the first western front was to easy to win as the western allies.

VictorH · Post by **VictorH** » Wed Oct 18, 2000 12:54 am

Correct me if I am wrong. I believe David Heath said he had the rights to SSI's old game - Western Front. Maybe there is a conversion in the works?

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Guardsman · Post by **Guardsman** » Fri Oct 20, 2000 12:40 am

I played West Front extensively years ago and there were a number of really hillarious bugs in there. One involving an airrborne raid on an Itallian city causing the entire Italian front to collapse!

I agree that it was easy to win as the Allies but it was even easier to win as the Germans. I played several games to 1946 and the Allies never even broke out of the Normandy beach head. Definately a weak AI and a good candidate for the Matrix treatment.

mogami · Post by **mogami** » Sat Oct 21, 2000 5:48 am

Hi I think "War in Russia" came first. I was upset with western front for several reasons
1. Could not change air craft type manualy (once had 2000 ME-262's I could not use and really small fighter groups)
2. as Guardsman said AI was weak (no problem wiping out Italy and keeping allies on Normandy beachhead whole game [if not just wiped out])
But to be fair I played this game many times anyway and was not so bad against a human
3. Certain allied units never get reinforcements (free french)
It is an excellent canidate for matrix rework if they ever get time.

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