How many would like to see a new and update WiR

[Mr.Frag]

complete a single scenerio of BoB

Don't install the patch and go straight for all the power plants. Game ends in two days with a German Victory. Always did love my strategy there. [;)]

[brisd]

Back to the topic in question, I loved WIR and would buy a modern version of it. Glad to see 2by3 has it listed on their website. One question? Does anyone recall the scale of WIR? Was it 10 miles per hex as the proposed WIR? Thanks.

[Blackwatch_it]

ORIGINAL: brisd

Back to the topic in question, I loved WIR and would buy a modern version of it. Glad to see 2by3 has it listed on their website. One question? Does anyone recall the scale of WIR? Was it 10 miles per hex as the proposed WIR? Thanks.

20 miles

[sven6345789]

on topic: war in russia anew? count me in!!

off topic (well a little bit): yeah, what about "Battle of the Atlantic"?

in the old wir, you had the italian and western fronts automated with a system that worked quite good in my opinion;
you could automate the land combat units this way, making air groups available as the historical situation allows; could include the med; the disadvantage-> You wouldn't have any real control over the course of the war; there would have to be some kind of victory points regarding loaded transports; sinking a lot will slow down allied build-up and might therefore postpone major offensives in the east and west against the germans. Would end up in an abstract system.
But, this is just fiction (As is a WW1 scenario, although...)
I would buy UV Med too any time.

[ladner]

I have waited a long time for one of these the next War In Russia threads to take off. I had tried to start a discussion like this on numerous times in the War In Russia by Matrix forum, but the threads always ended up stillborn. Enough ego, and back on topic YES! YES ! YES! PLEASE with regard to a War In Russia Remake, or to use the picture is worth a thousand words paradigm [&o]

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

ORIGINAL: tiredoftryingnames

Real time is bad for this type of game.

Indeed! "Fighting Steel" proved that. Trying to simotaniously monitor up to 20 ships sucked.

Turn based is the only way to go. Warship/Battlecruiser's system has IMHO never been bested in terms of putting the player in the middle of the action.

Hey, Fighting Steel was a great game. The intro and menu screens were awesome. But it just crashed after that. [:D]

Serriously, FS was not that bad. It just takes some getting used to. I was just giving the old Close Combat 3 another run, and its still a great game. Realtime just tends to keep you on your toes.

[tigercub]

sure bring it on!

[tigercub]

germany all fronts div level my type of game just like witp with a lot better land combat ....

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Hartley

Sure, but what is the commercial potential of any wargame not involving US forces ?

Sad but true in many respects.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

ORIGINAL: tiredoftryingnames

Real time is bad for this type of game.

Indeed! "Fighting Steel" proved that. Trying to simotaniously monitor up to 20 ships sucked.

Turn based is the only way to go. Warship/Battlecruiser's system has IMHO never been bested in terms of putting the player in the middle of the action.

Hey, Fighting Steel was a great game. The intro and menu screens were awesome. But it just crashed after that. [:D]

Serriously, FS was not that bad. It just takes some getting used to. I was just giving the old Close Combat 3 another run, and its still a great game. Realtime just tends to keep you on your toes.

FS's AI was crap and the online game was totally unstable. Never got passed the first minute or so. I still enjoy BoB but the AI was weak as well; should have been able to extend the campaign past the first checkpoint.

[Mr.Frag]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

ORIGINAL: Hartley

Sure, but what is the commercial potential of any wargame not involving US forces ?

Sad but true in many respects.

I think that is why Microsoft dumped the CC series after doing Russia, they were not too happy about the sales numbers, yet the first two sold like hotcakes because they had usa troops. 3 was by far the best of the set with the greatest ranges of them all but it still did poorly.

Non-USA I think cuts out the semi-grogs and just leaves the pure grog market. It also probably kills the mistaken purchases (where mom goes to buy billy a present and picks up something that looks good and interesting.)

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: dwesolick

ORIGINAL: dwesolick

Never played it before, but HPS Simulations (the guys that make Panzer Campaigns) have a tactical PC game based on Jutland. Looks like you can control the entire fleets on either side, etc. Can't vouch whether it's good or not since tactical really isn't my cup of tea.

Here is the link to their website: hps games

They also have Tsushima and Guadalcanal at the tactical level.

They all blow chunks...I know, I wasted money on all three in a mass spree hoping for the best.[:(]

[ASHBERY76]

Sod the Med, we want a new WIR![:-]

[Reichenberg]

ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76

Sod the Med, we want a new WIR![:-]

I am in 100% agreement - but was just not couragous enough to post something like this in the midst of all these naval grogs here [;)]

My focus is definitely on the land combat! But WitP will be on my HD anyhow.

Uwe

[Mr.Frag]

ACK!!! Land Grogs!!! Call in the Marines!!! Death to Army! Navy Rules!

but was just not couragous enough to post something like this in the midst of all these naval grogs here

There, did it for you [:'(]

[Lucifuge]

Id give my first born, my wife AND my dog to Matrix for a new WiR!

[Damien Thorn]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

ORIGINAL: Hartley

Sure, but what is the commercial potential of any wargame not involving US forces ?

Sad but true in many respects.

I don't think so. Maybe it's because I almost never play the US (except in revolutionary war scenarios or Nato vs USSR scenarios) but I think most people who play the US would be very happy playing either Germany or the Soviets.

[ASHBERY76]

ORIGINAL: Lucifuge

Id give my first born, my wife AND my dog to Matrix for a new WiR!

That's taking it to far! nobody should give away their dog.[:-]

[Blackwatch_it]

ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76

ORIGINAL: Lucifuge

Id give my first born, my wife AND my dog to Matrix for a new WiR!

That's taking it to far! nobody should give away their dog.[:-]

wife gone time ago with first born and dog, but I will find something interesting to offer Matrix for the new WiR

[Stavka_lite]

ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76

ORIGINAL: Lucifuge

Id give my first born, my wife AND my dog to Matrix for a new WiR!

That's taking it to far! nobody should give away their dog.[:-]

How about a cat?