What is WitP to you?

[Moose 4075]

What I look forward to in WitP, and what I've liked about most Gary Grigsby games, is the fact that there's the big sweeping strategy element, allowing history to be changed; yet there's also enough detail to see all of the different hardware. The hardware has always been what has interested me the most about military things. Small level tactical games show that off best, but make you feel like what you did would've just been swallowed up by the events at large. Games like WitP, UV, 12 O'Clock High, etc., show you the hardware while still showing major impact from one's actions.

The downside to all of this is Gary's games are more difficult than many. I am very impressed how playable he can make it relative to the detail, but they're complicated enough that frequently they're too much, and I'll seek out something easier for entertainment for a particular couple of hours.

[highblooded]

I Luv Games! The bigger the better! And this is the biggest Yet!

WW2 History is my Passion and Hobby. Until UV the Pacific theater was a side interest to the European War(with the Eastern Front my Focal Point) But I've been catching up the last few years... When I heard of WITP I was thrilled! So I picked up UV to whet my appetite!

Unfourtunately I've only played against the AI as my schedule can vary alot, I feel it is unfair to other gamers to be unable to commit to a proper schedule for gaming. Or maybe I'm just afraid I'll lose badly! hmmm...[8|]

What is a normal PBEM commitment anyway?

[Mr.Frag]

What is a normal PBEM commitment anyway?

The rest of your life [:D]

[Admiral DadMan]

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

What is a normal PBEM commitment anyway?

The rest of your life [:D]

Or,

your Rest [>:] AND your Wife [:-]...

[Damien Thorn]

I'm planning on buying a projector so I can play the whole thing on my wall with a 10' diagonal screen. So you see, the $70 Matrix is charging is a very small percent of my overall price.

[Mr.Frag]

I'm planning on buying a projector so I can play the whole thing on my wall with a 10' diagonal screen. So you see, the $70 Matrix is charging is a very small percent of my overall price.

Now there is dedication! I already dumped $2500 into a super machine with all the trimmings myself.

[52nd Lowland]

Its just the breadth and scope of the Pacific Theater that is the clinch for me.The potential combat area is massive and allows a lot of room for maneuver and surprise as well as the fact that the combat conditions in some of the areas were absolutely atrocious.
Its basically the wargame that i have waited for since i first started playing PC wargames all those years ago and finally its came to reality.Well done Matrix and 2by3 !

[Svar]

While most of you have been waiting for this game for quite a while, I have been waiting since the 1950s when I tried to design my own PacWar war game without the aid of computers. I had to give up when I realized that it would take dozens of people on both sides to keep track of all the details involved in running a war on this scale.

For me the joy is in playing with all the toys of war from WWII. I will play as the Allies until I actually finish a game. I will start with a late war scenario to get the feel of the game mechanics then start a full war scenario after the Midway battle as the results of that battle completely color the US reaction for the rest of the war. I'll only play the full war from 12/7/41 if the game is robust enough to cover the possibility that the US wont have CV superiorty until late 1943 or early 1944. The way the US was losing CVs early on there was a good possibility that all 6 prewar CVs could have been lost while Japan still had about half of their CV fleet by the end of 1942.

I suspect that before I actually finish a game I will try to see where I can exploit the game system to produce ahistorical results, winning the game really isn't important to me it's the journey that counts.

I finished plenty of old PacWar games but always tried to delay the end as long as possible so I could get as many of the new US toys as possible and exploited the system to get more ships of certain classes. I never was successful in capturing Tokyo though because there were too many Japanese units in Tokyo and the game always crashed when I ran the turn with the land battle.

[brisd]

Tigercub, appreciate the compliment and the name is brisd, as in Brian from S)an D)iego. [;)] I'll be looking to do some pbem games once I've got the mechanics down, though I will be working so I can't have ten games going like some of these fanatics!

[Wallymanowar]

Back in 1978 a friend of mine and I got involved with a wargame called USN by SPI, that was the start. Together we scraped up enough money to buy SPI's monster wargame called War in The Pacific - this game sits on my desk above me as I type. The problem with playing that WITP was the recordkeeping and sorting through the rules. Ever since those early days I have been looking for better versions of that game - now it is just about to be released - and I'm still alive to enjoy it[;)]

[ZOOMIE1980]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

It has come to my attention after frequenting these forums for over a year, both UV and WitP, that the scale of these games draws people like us to them for very different reasons. I'm interested, and I'm sure everyone else is too, in finding out: What is WitP/UV to you?

Feel free to be as descriptive and specific as you like. Is it a WWII game simulating the Allied experience? Is it a chance to change history as the Japanese? Do you play it for the large surface actions or the Air war? Are you Navy-centric? Army-centric? Air-corps-centric?

As for myself, I enjoy all aspects of the game in phases. If I had to narrow it down to one thing though, it would be the Air War. I enjoy both sides, but I favor the Japanese as the underdog.

I am really looking forward to your responses.

WWII in the Pacific was all about production and logistics. Hard to find a game that ever gave much justice to that aspect. You don't just fight battles in this game. Every assault and every defense has to be planned out in great detail and executed just right. Just like in the real thing. Any screw up, even minor ones, can be disasterous. No other game simulates that well at all.

[olivier_slith]

I have been interested in the Pacific war since the time since Grisby's Guadalcanal Campaign. PAcWar was a dream come true. Witp is like a miracle. Next step: a world wide simulation of the war using these details.

[Mr.Frag]

Next step: a world wide simulation of the war using these details.

God, I hope not! WitP is barely at the sanity level. Add the rest into the mix and you will simply snap. [X(]

[Dukemourn]

For me it's the large scope, the small details, and the history it's all based on.

I've always wished whatever wargame I played had more in it.
WitP looks like it's exactly what I've been waiting for.

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

Basically

A) The ability to finally play "Pacific War" [:D]
B) Digging myself into some PacWar books, then play, then read some other books.

[ltfightr]

Dhennin wrote quote"Next step: a world wide simulation of the war using these details.

This game is on the Divisional level for all theaters we want it at a regimental or how about batallion level??[&o]

[byron13]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

What is WitP/UV to you?

It's a surrogate for a girlfriend and social life.

[Sonny]

ORIGINAL: byron13

ORIGINAL: TheElf

What is WitP/UV to you?

It's a surrogate for a girlfriend and social life.

And you can shut it off when you like.[:D]

[Damien Thorn]

ORIGINAL: byron13

ORIGINAL: TheElf

What is WitP/UV to you?

It's a surrogate for a girlfriend and social life.

Wow, that hit too close to reality. [X(]

Actually, even more embarrasing is that I have a girlfriend but I'll probably prefer WitP (at least for awhile).

[Mr.Frag]

And you can shut it off when you like.

No you can't, it's an addiction far worse then any other [:D]