Transporting Air Units via Sea

[Tophat]

Ok,
Is anyone having a problem with this? I tried placing some P-39's on AK's and then AP's for transport to Oz............couldn't do it.To tired to play around more with it tonight,just wondering if this has croppedup with anyone else.
Situation.........its the Big campaign,December 12th and a Pbem game at that.The p-39 ftr group has been broken down into squadrons.Same problem is going to cropup with sending B25's and A-20's over the big blue.Well atleast my B17's can Ferry over.

[Drongo]

You can load a/c onto AK's but not AP's.

The problem sounds like the P-39s belong to a restricted HQ. Is their HQ West Coast? If so, you'll have to change it to something like SW Pacific.

[captskillet]

That p-39 group is restricted to West Coast you must reassign them and pay the PP cost

[Tophat]

You are 100% correct about them being in a restricted HQ,thought I had changed them to SW Pacific.......

[siRkid]

Nice to know it works as designed.[:D]

[vonmoltke]

Quick question on this subject: when transporting crated aircraft, will the damaged aircraft in a group also be loaded?

[Mr.Frag]

Quick question on this subject: when transporting crated aircraft, will the damaged aircraft in a group also be loaded?

The entire group loads as 1 entity.

[PeteG662]

and the entire group will be deposited at the destination in a repair only state......

[Salient]

Sorry for digging this one up...

I'm transporting a bomber group from Brisbane to Noumea using only 1 AK. This seems a bit odd to me, lots of big planes on one ship, is this correct?

Thanks.

[mogami]

Hi, You cannot load restricted airgroups onto an AK but you can load them on CV.
The CV (It can be a CVL or CVE) has to be in the same hex and in a TF.
You can even overload the CV since it is not going to be doing flight ops while at sea.
Then you unload into a new base hex.

Carrier capable groups can load and fly from CV even if they belong to restricted HQ.

Early in war when I am afraid of Japanese I use CV as ferrys so my groups arrive PH undamaged.

[2ndACR]

I would divide the unit into 3 parts and put them on 3 different ships.

Nothing sucks more than to have that single ship eat a few torpedos and sink taking all those planes down with it.

[Salient]

Thanks for the answers guys! [:)]

Good tip about dividing them, now if I only could remember to give the Transport an escort before they are halfway their destination [:D]

[eMonticello]

Here's a mini-"Name This". Hint, it is NOT an AK and it also could carry PT-Boats to the theater of operations. After enough guesses, I'll post a "wider" shot.

Also, Mogami has a good suggestion ... you should consider using aircraft carriers to transport them to the front as well. Historically, I believe CVs were limited to ferrying MAGs, while CVEs would ferry both Army FGs as well as MAGs. Historically, heavy bombers would ferry to the front on their own.

ORIGINAL: Drongo
You can load a/c onto AK's but not AP's.

[bradfordkay]

My guess... an LST?

[eMonticello]

The P-47 is about 36 ft long and, based on the photo, this stowage configuration requires a ship with a beam of 50-60 ft. The P-47 wingspan is 40 ft, although the photo suggests that the P-47 is occupying about 25ft. Eight P-47s would require at least 170-200 ft of deck space. An LST has a beam of 50 ft (tight fit, but doable) and a length of 328 ft. However, only about 120-150 ft is truly usable topside. So... close, but it would require a ship that is at least 400-500 ft long.

[eMonticello]

Because of the high demand for AKs in 1943, the Navy improvised by introducing skeleton decks for the most common of tankers, the T-2. The decks were built 9ft above the ship's deck to protect the cargo from the sea. After the war, these ships became the first-generation of container ships.

[tsimmonds]

Kewl!