What do I need to do production/supply-wise as allies?

[Arnir]

ORIGINAL: SunDevil

What is "OZ" and "DEI"? Thanks

Australia and Dutch East Indies.

[SunDevil_MatrixForum]

Thank you, have not made it to the Grand Campaign yet. [:D]

[Theng]

Thanks Frag

[Bodhi]

ORIGINAL: incbob

I do so hope someone is adding this to the FAQ

More importantly, I hope the manual is going to be updated and revised.

[Huskalator]

*sigh*

Again,

Do I need to supply Oz, India, and my HI in general as the allies with oil and resources?

What effect would not supplying them have?

[Mike Scholl]

ORIGINAL: von Murrin

And that's how it works.[:)]

It's advisable to restrict the bases on auto convoy, however. You could end up with 300k supplies at Dutch Harbor or something.[;)]

Be very carefull with "auto-convoy", as it pays no attention to enemy bases and will
route your shipping right by them to serve as "target Practice"

[rogueusmc]

ORIGINAL: Deep Breakfast

*sigh*

Again,

Do I need to supply Oz, India, and my HI in general as the allies with oil and resources?

What effect would not supplying them have?

He's saying that Oz can support itself but if ya want it to produce anything (i.e airplanes and such) ya better import some supplies and resources and such

[Xargun]

ORIGINAL: Deep Breakfast

*sigh*

Again,

Do I need to supply Oz, India, and my HI in general as the allies with oil and resources?

What effect would not supplying them have?

A lot of the Allies stuff comes free - but by supplying oil / resources to your on-map industries you can increase what you get for free.. Plus you only get supplies / fuel at certain bases - none in OZ I believe... So if you need more fuel / supplies in OZ you need to produce it there via HI or ship it in from the US... Your choice...

Not supplying it will get you less items produced (whatever is on map needs HI points to run) as well as less fuel and supplies.. If you're not worried about this, then you don't have to worry about oil / resources at all.. other than to deny them to the japanese.

Xargun

[Tophat]

I'm in the "grand campaign" pbem as the Allies and have about 30,000 oil and 40,000 resources already in or on the way to Oz.Now i'm feeling quite comfortable with that but seeing in a post by Xargun that Japan needs 6000 oil imported per/day......i'm wondering if anyone has looked at Oz's resource and oil consuption vs aircraft return over time.

[CJ Martin]

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Supplies dumped in Sydney will get pulled by other bases within supply range. IE you don't need to supply Sydney & Brisbane.

Early game, which is better - convoys to Brisbane (which is a size 6 port) or spend the extra at sea time to Sydney (size 10 port)?

These are large (~100k supplies/oil mix) convoys.

-CJ

[Captain Cruft]

I find that experimenting to find all these things out is part of the fun [:)]

The manual could do with some work though ...

P.S. Assuming that oil/resource distribution by rail follows the same "supply path" rule as normal supply distribution - oil/resources will propagate out along 25 hexes of rail from the port where they are landed.

[mc3744]

This thread is vital [&o] [&o]
Please keep it up. I need to know more. I'm playing the big campaign PBEM and I feel lost as to where/from/how ...what the hell to do with supplies and fuel!! [:D]

Does it make sense to use Pearl as a hub between San Francisco and OZ? Or is it better to ship directly?

Somehwere someone said do not ship to Sydney and Brisbane. I don't understand why!?!
To where then?

Thanks for the help [&o]

[Banquet]

ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

P.S. Assuming that oil/resource distribution by rail follows the same "supply path" rule as normal supply distribution - oil/resources will propagate out along 25 hexes of rail from the port where they are landed.

I thought it was 90 hexes? I am getting mixed up with something else?

I am starting to get to grips with the production a little but still find it confusing. I wish there was some kind of indication for each base showing how much resouces/oil were coming in, where it coming from, what fuel and supplies were being produced and where they were going!

Alternatively some kind of map overlay showing the flow of supplies/oil/fuel/resources would be nice. There seems to be so little information it's just guesswork trying to plan it.

[Captain Cruft]

ORIGINAL: Banquet
I thought it was 90 hexes? I am getting mixed up with something else?

That's the "supply path" used when deciding whether to allow march orders for LCUs. The "supply range" for delivering supplies is 25 hexes by rail, which is what I meant sorry.

I'm not sure the rail supply path value is 90 hexes either, can't remember the formula ...

[mc3744]

ORIGINAL: Banquet

ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft


I am starting to get to grips with the production a little but still find it confusing. I wish there was some kind of indication for each base showing how much resouces/oil were coming in, where it coming from, what fuel and supplies were being produced and where they were going!

Alternatively some kind of map overlay showing the flow of supplies/oil/fuel/resources would be nice. There seems to be so little information it's just guesswork trying to plan it.

That's just a GREAT IDEA

[Mr.Frag]

The numbers are NEVER in hexes. They are flow distances.

Each hex travelled through is either rail, road, trail or nothing.

Each of these hex types has a different *cost* for moving through the hex.

Read 14.3 (pg 188)

[Banquet]

I was referring more to the movement of oil and resources than supply for ground units (unless it works the same way?)

On the subject of 14.3, I don't understand the example;

I 'get' the part about the units supply being 825 (900-25-50) But why if there was an enemy unit in Lae would the move be not allowed? Why does it go on to mention supplies being automatically moved (isn't that the only way?) And further, why does the next example start with a value of 100? 900 is for ground units, no? (what other type of units could there be for overland supply movement?)

My grasp of this subject is shaky, at best [:D] [&:]

[Mr.Frag]

There are 4 completely separate concepts all rolled into one thing.

(a) Supply flow for units from a base

(b) Supply flow for bases from a base

(c) goods flow for industry (base to base)

(d) unit movement and the effect of enemies in the way.

The math is the same, but the maximum ranges differ.

It is probably the second most complex thing in the game to understand.

(c) is a little special because it is based on a 3 day cycle and the range changes each day of that cycle.

[Banquet]

I'm steering clear of the 1st most complicated thing, then!

[Damien Thorn]

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag
(c) goods flow for industry (base to base)
(c) is a little special because it is based on a 3 day cycle and the range changes each day of that cycle.

What do you mean a "3 day cycle"? If a base has an oil production of 100 does that mean it produces 100 every third day or 300 every third day or 100 per day?