IJN Ship Count 12/41

[Q-Ball]

Does anyone have a IJN ship count breakdown in 12/41? How many total ships of each type, and maybe organized by class? Would love to know how many CLs, DDs, AKs, etc. I know I can pull up the active ships list, but I can't count that high on the AK's.

[Spooky]

There is a Japanese ships OOB (CSV file) in the WITP Fansite - maybe you could use it ?

[Mr.Frag]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Does anyone have a IJN ship count breakdown in 12/41? How many total ships of each type, and maybe organized by class? Would love to know how many CLs, DDs, AKs, etc. I know I can pull up the active ships list, but I can't count that high on the AK's.

Simple answer ... nowhere near enough to cover even a quarter of what Japan needs to do.

I have to chuckle about people complaining about the poor AI sending ships around without escort when *I* have to send ships around without escort. Sometimes you really have to step back and remember there is a reason Japan lost the war. They didn't have enough of ANYTHING. [:D]

6 CV, 2 CVL, 2 CVE, 4 Fast BB, 6 Slow BB, 18 CA, 21 CL, 125 DD, 12 APD, 59 SS, 3 AD, 2 AE, 1 AR, 8 AS, 5 AV, 3 CS, 38 ML, approx 100 MSW, approx 140 PC/PG

[Alikchi2]

Uou have:

16 CV
6 CVL
9 CVE
12 BB
17 CA
22 CL
183 DD
151 SS

to take on the largest industrial power in the world in a war of attrition over the course of 5 years.

Aw, Frag beat me to it.

[Xargun]

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Simple answer ... nowhere near enough to cover even a quarter of what Japan needs to do.

I have to chuckle about people complaining about the poor AI sending ships around without escort when *I* have to send ships around without escort. Sometimes you really have to step back and remember there is a reason Japan lost the war. They didn't have enough of ANYTHING. [:D]

6 CV, 2 CVL, 2 CVE, 4 Fast BB, 6 Slow BB, 18 CA, 21 CL, 125 DD, 12 APD, 59 SS, 3 AD, 2 AE, 1 AR, 8 AS, 5 AV, 3 CS, 38 ML, approx 100 MSW, approx 140 PC/PG

In my PBEM I send TFs areound all the time with little to no escort simply because... uhm... well.. I don't have anything other than a PG or PC to send with it.. And half the time I don't bother sending them because they have about no range. If the US didn't care about losing its CVs and sent them on a rampage through the DEI and SRA in mid feb, they would probably bag a LOT of IJN TFs without any sort of escorts... Or even a good Combat TF... BUT, you have to realize they won't make it back out... between the IJN CVs and LBA the TF will die a swift death once found... but you could easily kill a dozen or more merchies and possibly even some warships and APs carrying troops if you got a little lucky..

Xargun

[ZOOMIE1980]

ORIGINAL: Xargun

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Simple answer ... nowhere near enough to cover even a quarter of what Japan needs to do.

I have to chuckle about people complaining about the poor AI sending ships around without escort when *I* have to send ships around without escort. Sometimes you really have to step back and remember there is a reason Japan lost the war. They didn't have enough of ANYTHING. [:D]

6 CV, 2 CVL, 2 CVE, 4 Fast BB, 6 Slow BB, 18 CA, 21 CL, 125 DD, 12 APD, 59 SS, 3 AD, 2 AE, 1 AR, 8 AS, 5 AV, 3 CS, 38 ML, approx 100 MSW, approx 140 PC/PG

In my PBEM I send TFs areound all the time with little to no escort simply because... uhm... well.. I don't have anything other than a PG or PC to send with it.. And half the time I don't bother sending them because they have about no range. If the US didn't care about losing its CVs and sent them on a rampage through the DEI and SRA in mid feb, they would probably bag a LOT of IJN TFs without any sort of escorts... Or even a good Combat TF... BUT, you have to realize they won't make it back out... between the IJN CVs and LBA the TF will die a swift death once found... but you could easily kill a dozen or more merchies and possibly even some warships and APs carrying troops if you got a little lucky..

Xargun

I'm doing that already with sub concentrations. I've bagged 4 AP's, 16 AK's, and have wounded 2 CA's and CL so far and it's only Feb 1. However, those are very aggressive sub tactic in shallow water right near known Japanese target bases. I've lost 6 subs in the process. But no need to sacrifce CV's.

[ZOOMIE1980]

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Does anyone have a IJN ship count breakdown in 12/41? How many total ships of each type, and maybe organized by class? Would love to know how many CLs, DDs, AKs, etc. I know I can pull up the active ships list, but I can't count that high on the AK's.

Simple answer ... nowhere near enough to cover even a quarter of what Japan needs to do.

I have to chuckle about people complaining about the poor AI sending ships around without escort when *I* have to send ships around without escort. Sometimes you really have to step back and remember there is a reason Japan lost the war. They didn't have enough of ANYTHING. [:D]

6 CV, 2 CVL, 2 CVE, 4 Fast BB, 6 Slow BB, 18 CA, 21 CL, 125 DD, 12 APD, 59 SS, 3 AD, 2 AE, 1 AR, 8 AS, 5 AV, 3 CS, 38 ML, approx 100 MSW, approx 140 PC/PG

Whether or not you and the developers are ever going to admit it, the game has an AI "Death Spiral" flaw that a solitaire player has to try and avoid exploitng to keep the game playable.

[Captain Cruft]

ORIGINAL: Xargun
In my PBEM I send TFs areound all the time with little to no escort simply because... uhm... well.. I don't have anything other than a PG or PC to send with it.. And half the time I don't bother sending them because they have about no range.

You can send the PGs. They will fuel themselves from the AKs and/or TKs. Same goes for Minesweepers.

I am currently thinking that Japan actually has an excess of ASW escort craft. No doubt I am being hugely naive ...