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I want to change all of the names of the Japanese planes to use the actual names instead of the allied 'codenames'. Does anyone know of a good web site that lists all of the Japanese names? I found this one http://rwebs.net/avhistory/acdesig/japanese.htm that describes the naming system but it doesn't list specific names.
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I want to change all of the names of the Japanese planes to use the actual names instead of the allied 'codenames'. Does anyone know of a good web site that lists all of the Japanese names? I found this one http://rwebs.net/avhistory/acdesig/japanese.htm that describes the naming system but it doesn't list specific names.


Hmm I can supply some of the names from a couple of the books I have. Here is a few:

Ki-27
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon)
Ki-44 Shoki
Ki-61 Hien (Swallow)
Ki-84 Hayate
Ki-100 Goshikisen


A5M Type 96
A6M2 Zero
A6M5 Zero
N1K Shiden
J2M3 Raiden

Hope this small amount of info helps.
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Hope this small amount of info helps.

Thanks. It's a start. Hopefully a week from now I won't ever have to see a "Pete" or a "Jake" show up in a combat report. [:)]
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But I suspect that there were not actual names used for some of the plane types. For example, the float planes were just referred to by their model names. I also would like to use the Japanese names for their own planes. Digging up the data though might be a tad hard.
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I seem to recall the last Matrix version of Pacwar changed all the Japanese aircraft to the Japanese nomenclature. As for me I have an abiding affection for the old Allied codenames. Gave the planes personality. But I realize not everyone will feel that way. [8D]
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ORIGINAL: Damien Thorn

I want to change all of the names of the Japanese planes to use the actual names instead of the allied 'codenames'. Does anyone know of a good web site that lists all of the Japanese names? I found this one http://rwebs.net/avhistory/acdesig/japanese.htm that describes the naming system but it doesn't list specific names.

Email me or post the aircraft names here. I have a book that has all if not most of the IJN/IJA codenames. I don't have the game yet, so can't supply what they are.

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Email me or post the aircraft names here. I have a book that has all if not most of the IJN/IJA codenames. I don't have the game yet, so can't supply what they are.

Mike

Many thanks. Here is the list of planes, including some that have the correct Japanese names. I believe the Japanese didn't start naming their planes until 1943 but most eventually had names.

A5M4
A6M2-N
A6M2
A6M3
A6M5
A6M8
A7M2 Reppu
N1K1-J Shiden
J2M Raiden
J7W Shinden
J1N1-S
C6N1-S
D1A
D3A
D4Y
A6M5c
B4Y
B5N
B6N
B7A
G3M
G4M1
G4M2
G4M2e
P1Y
J1N1-R
C5M
C6N
H6K4
H8K
H6K2-L
L1N1
L3Y
E14Y1
E8N
F1M2
E13A1
E7K2
Ki-27
Ki-43-Ib Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon)
Ki-43-IIa Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon)
Ki-43-IIb Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon)
Ki-45 KAIa
Ki-45 KAIb
Ki-45 KAIc
Ki-46-III KAI
Ki-61 KAIc Hien (Swallow)
Ki-84-Ia Hayate
Ki-84-Ic Hayate
Ki-100 Goshikisen
Ki-102a
Ki-30
Ki-32
Ki-51
Ki-21
Ki-48
Ki-49
Ki-67
Ki-46-III
Ki-46-II
Ki-15
Ki-36
Ki-57-II
Ki-59
MC-21
Ki-54

It's a long list. Thank God I'm not changing the Allied names. They have a lot more planes.
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From my Original Pacwar Site A list another did, through can't say how accurate is:

Japanese Plane Names
Supplied by Jeff Norris


Japanese aircraft names (that I know)

B7A1 Grace (Ryusei) Shooting star
Ki45 Nick (Toryu) Dragon slayer
N1K2 George (Shinden) Violet Lighting
Ki61 Tony (Hien) Flying swallow
J2M2 Jack (Raiden) Thunderbolt
Ki84 Frank (Hayate) Gale
J1N1 Irving (Gekko) Moon light
Ki43 Oscar (Hayabusa) Peregrine Falcon
Ki44 Tojo (Shoki) Formidable, Or Devil Queller
B6N2 Jill (Tenzan) Heavenly Mountain
Ki49 Helen (Donryu) Dragon Swallower
D4Y2 Judy (Suisei) Comet
P1Y1 Frances (Ginga) Milky Way

Place name and base changes

Bonin I to ChiChi Jima
Amami I to Amami OShima
Palau to Pelelieu
Andaman I to Port Blair
Chilung to Keelung
*Ponape terrain 1 to terrain 7
*Canton Is. airfield from 2 to 4.

Ponape is not a coral atoll, its more like Guam. Canton Is. had
a 5000 foot B17 capable runway ready at the start of the war.


Jess Norris


My Original Pac war game (SSI-Matrix project) site is at:

http://hometown.aol.com/Pacwar/orgpacwar.html

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Here ya go. If there isn't a name it's because it didn't have one and I just put the designation. [:D]

A5M4 Navy Type 96 Fighter
A6M2-N Navy Type 2 Fighter Seaplane
A6M2 Reisen (Zero) Navy Type 0 Fighter
A6M3 Reisen (Zero) Navy Type 0 Fighter
A6M5 Reisen (Zero) Navy Type 0 Fighter
A6M8 Reisen (Zero) Navy Type 0 Fighter
A7M2 Reppu (Hurricane) Navy Experimental 17-Shi Ko(A); 7 Prototypes, 1 Production A/C only
N1K1-J Shiden (Violet Lightning) Navy Interceptor Fighter Shiden Model 11
J2M Raiden (Thunderbolt) Navy Interceptor Fighter Raiden
J7W Shinden (Magnificent Lightning) Navy Experimental 18-Shi Otsu (B) Type Interceptor Fighter Shinden; 2 Prototypes only
J1N1-S Gekko (Moonlight) Navy Night Fighter
C6N1-S Saiun (Painted Cloud) Navy carrier Reconnaissance Plane
D1A Navy Type 94 (D1A1) or Type 96 (D1A2) Carrier Bomber
D3A Navy Type 99 Carrier Bomber
D4Y Suisei (Comet) Navy Carrier Bomber(D4Y1/D4Y5);Navy Type 2 Carrier Reconnaissance Plane (D4Y1-c/D4Y2-Ca)
A6M5c Reisen (Zero) Navy Type 0 Carrier Fighter Model 52C
B4Y Navy Type 96 Carrier Attack Bomber
B5N Navy Type 97 Carrier Attack Bomber Model 11
B6N Tenzan (Heavenly Mountain) Navy Attack Bomber Tenzan Model 11; B6N2 Model 12
B7A Ryusei (Shooting Star) Navy Carrier Attack Bomber Ryusei
G3M Navy Type 96 Attack Bomber Model 11 (G3M1); Model 22 (G3M2); Model 23 (G3M3)
G4M1 Navy Type 1 Attack Bomber Model 11/Model 12
G4M2 Navy Type 1 Attack Bomber Model 22A/Model 22B
G4M2e Navy Type 1 Attack Bomber Model 24J
P1Y Ginga (Milky Way) Navy Bomber Ginga Model 11 (P1Y1); Model 16 (P1Y2)
J1N1-R Gekko (Moonlight) Navy Type 2 Reconnaissance Plane
C5M Navy Type 98 Recon Plane Model 1
C6N Saiun (Painted Cloud) Navy Carrier Reconnaissance Plane Saiun Model 11
H6K4 Navy Type 97 Flying-Boat Model 22
H8K Navy Type 2 Flying-Boat Model 12
H6K2-L Navy Type 97 Transport Flying-Boat
L1N1 Navy Type AT-2 Transport
L3Y Navy Type 96 Transports Model 11/Model 12; modified G3M1/G3M2
E14Y1 Navy Type 0 Small Reconnaissance Seaplane Model 11
E8N Navy Type 95 Reconnaissance Seaplane Model 1
F1M2 Navy Type 0 Observation Seaplane
E13A1 Navy Type 0 Reconnaissance Plane Model 11
E7K2 Navy Type 94 Reconnaissance Seaplane Model 12
Ki-27 Army Type 97 Fighter
Ki-43-Ib Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon) Army Type 1 Fighter Model 1B
Ki-43-IIa Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon) Army Type 1 Fighter Model 2A
Ki-43-IIb Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon) Army Type 1 Fighter Model 2B
Ki-45 KAIa Toryu (Dragon Killer) Army Type 2 Two-seat Fighter Model A
Ki-45 KAIb Toryu (Dragon Killer) Army Type 2 Two-seat Fighter Model B
Ki-45 KAIc Toryu (Dragon Killer) Army Type 2 Two-seat Fighter Model C
Ki-46-III KAI Army Type 100 Air Defence Fighter
Ki-61 KAIc Hien (Swallow) Army Type 3 Fighter
Ki-84-Ia Hayate (Gale) Army Type 4 Fighter Model 1A
Ki-84-Ic Hayate (Gale) Army Type 4 Fighter Model 1C
Ki-100 Army Type 5 Fighter
Ki-102a Army Type 4 Assault Plane; only 15 delivered before end of war, no mass production
Ki-30 Army Type 97 Light Bomber
Ki-32 Army Type 98 Single-engined Light Bomber
Ki-51 Army Type 99 Assault Plane (single-engine ground-attack/tactical reconnaissance)
Ki-21 Army Type 97 Heavy Bomber
Ki-48 Army Type 99 Twin-engined Light Bomber Model 1A
Ki-49 Donryu (Storm Dragon) Army Type 100 Heavy Bomber
Ki-67 Hiryu (Flying Dragon) Army Type 4 Heavy Bomber
Ki-46-II Army Type 100 Command Reconnaissance Plane Model 2
Ki-46-III Army Type 100 Command Reconnaissance Plane Model 3
Ki-15 Army Type 97 Command Reconnaissance Plane
Ki-36 Army Type 98 Direct Co-operation Plane
Ki-57-II Army Type 100 Transport Model 2
Ki-59 Army Type 1 Transport
MC-21 Freight Transport (modified Ki-21's operated by Dai Nippon Koku K.K.)
Ki-54 Army Type 1 Advanced Trainer Model A (Ki-54a);Army Type 1 Operations Trainer Model B (Ki-54b);Army Type 1 Transport Model C (Ki-54c);Army Type 1 Patrol Bomber Model D (ASW) (Ki-54d)

Hope this helps. I tried to be as accurate as possible. Some of the planes had several models and I put them down since I didn't know what model is presented in the game.

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ORIGINAL: Damien Thorn

I want to change all of the names of the Japanese planes to use the actual names instead of the allied 'codenames'. Does anyone know of a good web site that lists all of the Japanese names? I found this one http://rwebs.net/avhistory/acdesig/japanese.htm that describes the naming system but it doesn't list specific names.


Hmm I can supply some of the names from a couple of the books I have. Here is a few:

Ki-27
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon)
Ki-44 Shoki
Ki-61 Hien (Swallow)
Ki-84 Hayate
Ki-100 Goshikisen


A5M Type 96
A6M2 Zero
A6M5 Zero
N1K Shiden
J2M3 Raiden

Hope this small amount of info helps.

According to my book the Ki-100 didn't have a name.

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Here ya go. If there isn't a name it's because it didn't have one and I just put the designation. [:D]

Thank you! It is greatly apreciated.
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Is Below in Game?

It was in original Pacwar through that pretty much due to 640K dos limit
Put different models under one designation:

Ki44 Tojo (Shoki) Formidable, Or Devil Queller
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yep. The 47th Independent Sentai has 9 experimental Ki-44 Tojos at the start of the game.
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ORIGINAL: ATCSMike

Here ya go. If there isn't a name it's because it didn't have one and I just put the designation. [:D]

Thank you! It is greatly apreciated.

Sure. If you need anymore just holler...

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ORIGINAL: ATCSMike
ORIGINAL: Bandkanon
ORIGINAL: Damien Thorn

I want to change all of the names of the Japanese planes to use the actual names instead of the allied 'codenames'. Does anyone know of a good web site that lists all of the Japanese names? I found this one http://rwebs.net/avhistory/acdesig/japanese.htm that describes the naming system but it doesn't list specific names.


Hmm I can supply some of the names from a couple of the books I have. Here is a few:

Ki-27
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Peregrin Falcon)
Ki-44 Shoki
Ki-61 Hien (Swallow)
Ki-84 Hayate
Ki-100 Goshikisen


A5M Type 96
A6M2 Zero
A6M5 Zero
N1K Shiden
J2M3 Raiden

Hope this small amount of info helps.

According to my book the Ki-100 didn't have a name.

Mike

I have found a few sources with it.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the Ki-100 was called the Goshikisen.
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I've seen that in a couple of places, but by far the majority of the references I've seen claimed that the Ki-100 was either unnamed or continued as "Hien," reflecting its origin.
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ORIGINAL: CynicAl

I've seen that in a couple of places, but by far the majority of the references I've seen claimed that the Ki-100 was either unnamed or continued as "Hien," reflecting its origin.


Hmmm, interesting. The Ki-100 was just an Ki-61 airframe with an upgraded Mitsubishi engine. Also known as the Tony II. I think the name is Goshikisen. Its mentioned in "Aces of the Rising Sun" as a separate entity from the Ki-61 Hien.
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Maybe. It could also be that "goshikisen" was an unofficial name bestowed by crews rather than an Official IJAAF Codename. Just out of curiosity, do you happen to have a translation of "goshikisen"? That could help clear things up - or then again, it might not.

You know, I bet this sort of thing is a big part of the reason why the devs just went with the Allied codenames.
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