Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight

andytimtim · Post by **andytimtim** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:34 pm

Allied ground losses:
70775 casualties reported
Guns lost 368
Vehicles lost 38

[X(] what do you make of the high casualties!!!

kaleun · Post by **kaleun** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:33 pm

70775 casualties reported

They are counting the ones that will die during the Death March!

brisd · Post by **brisd** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:15 pm

When units can't retreat, they surrender. I captured 117,000 troops at Bataan vs the AI during my Rising Sun scenario, 2/20/42. Makes a HUGE difference in victory points when you kill or capture that many troops. [8D]

Raverdave · Post by **Raverdave** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:34 pm

Bataan falls. Those poor barstards had little chance against the Nip, they were starved and very very low on ammo. Heros each and everyone of them.

Raverdave · Post by **Raverdave** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:05 am

I shall return !

Luskan · Post by **Luskan** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:29 am

What? Return to america where you belong ?!?

Plans for the DEI have been submitted and while my banana wants to go one way, I want to go another. There are some situatoins in life that you should always follow your banana (a man and his fruit are hard to seperate) but thinking with your banana all the time is a great way to end up in a cocktail.

Plan A is risky. Oh it is risky. It could go SO wrong - especially if Raver gets wind of it, but he doesn't even have to know about it to screw it to hell - it could fold in on itself and just not work period, and cost me months and months on my timetable for no gain and lots of losses. My banana favours this one because if by some fluke I pull it off, it will be bataan all over again the length of the DEI and Raver boy will be in serious trouble.

Plan B is much more conventional, and would work - slow and steady and nothing Raver could do about it (except of course, withdraw or reinforce - we saw that not withdrawing in malaya worked for him (although he did loose all those troops) while not withdrawing from the PI more, well that hurt him.

I have two operations to go before I have to make my choice. Operation Sponge and Operation Tart. Both are small scale and perhaps very predictable - these will launch as soon as the troops I have listed for them reach 100% readiness. The last few days have been an absolute blessing with resources rolling in and supplies rolling out. My troops around the globe are the strongest they've ever been with reinforcements, replacements, and nice full pools in the Industry screen (thank god - will be expanding a few select repair ports now i've got a bit of a surplus. That way my repair turn aronud won't be quite so long - All my early game damaged ships smaller than BBare have all been fully repaired by careful rationing of damaged ships to repair ports and not leaving any other damaged ships in said ports etc. etc. Even the BBs scratched early on are back in the green (want them back to 0 though). If I could just speed this up a little faster I'd be happy.

andytimtim · Post by **andytimtim** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:47 am

Plan A is risky. Oh it is risky. It could go SO wrong - especially if Raver gets wind of it, but he doesn't even have to know about it to screw it to hell - it could fold in on itself and just not work period, and cost me months and months on my timetable for no gain and lots of losses. My banana favours this one because if by some fluke I pull it off, it will be bataan all over again the length of the DEI and Raver boy will be in serious trouble.

[X(] an invasion of PH???!!!

Raverdave · Post by **Raverdave** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:16 am

I wish he would ! Nah I would think that Luskan is planning something off the wall such as an invasion of India or even the northern coast of Oz. Certainly he still needs to take PNG, and I am yet to decide if I am even going to bother contesting that or not. He STILL needs the DEI as there is a sh1tload of oil sitting there for the asking, and I have nodoubt that is what he has his little beady eyes fixed on right now.

Oi Churchill you bloody wanker! I want my 6th, 7th and 9th Divisions back and I want them NOW!

Actually I am waiting for the next turn to arrive as I am hoping to a good turn..........with luck I will have sunk or damaged some of yellow boys capital ships.

Raverdave · Post by **Raverdave** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:04 pm

Luskan !

Raverdave · Post by **Raverdave** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:46 pm

Some quick action around Kendari...............I let loose with some CVs in an effort to catch something, and scored some hits on a few CAs and whatnot. I had just missed a big TK convoy by two days, but there was little that I could do about that. For the moment I am just happy to hit and run and let my boys get in some pratice. If the BDA is to be believed the Mogami and Aoba are going to need some patching[:)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/01/42

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Sub attack at 22,48

Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 14
SB-2c x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 15000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 15000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 15000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 16
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro, Bomb hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 64

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 12 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 4
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 4
DD Asagumo
CA Nachi, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
6 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
7 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
7 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
G4M1 Betty x 12

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 8 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP Dardanus, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Nikademus · Post by **Nikademus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:30 pm

you gotta wonder about a man who talks so much to his banana. One wonders what else he does with it when noone's around [:'(]

Xargun · Post by **Xargun** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:49 pm

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

you gotta wonder about a man who talks so much to his banana. One wonders what else he does with it when noone's around [:'(]

I'd rather not know....

Xargun

freeboy · Post by **freeboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:57 pm

Capt. Harlock · Post by **Capt. Harlock** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:23 pm

My troops around the globe are the strongest they've ever been with reinforcements, replacements, and nice full pools in the Industry screen

I have to wonder about Luskan's industry. Although I congratulate him on the speedy fall of Malaysia and the PI, it seems to me that he is actually far behind the historical schedule in securing oil bases. (Above all, the big prize at Palembang.) Shouldn't there be a general decline of fuel stocks by now?

Nikademus · Post by **Nikademus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:04 pm

while much will depend on how much the Japan player is using his fleet (especially the big units) The Japanese, in general, had a large fuel reserve that would help cushion the effects of this heavy use period. The state of the reserve and it's inevitable decline after the complete embargo was instituted was a large factor in Japan's timing and decision for going to war.

SunDevil_MatrixForum · Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:19 pm

This is a great AAR, but from reading all 12 pages of it so far, it seems like Luskan is wasting too much time in China and India, and not focusing on the southern islands, also trying to cut or intercept shipping from PH to OZ. Does anyone know or use the tactics to focus more on territory that is closer to the Japan Homeland, then concentrate on the southern islands and OZ?

kaleun · Post by **kaleun** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:11 am

Maybe he's trying to win in China, so he can divert some of his forces there to other theaters. It is a good scheme, if it works of course.

Onime No Kyo · Post by **Onime No Kyo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:01 am

Oi Churchill you bloody wanker! I want my 6th, 7th and 9th Divisions back and I want them NOW!

"Oi"?! You want the Jewish Brigade back as well?! [:D][:D]

Luskan · Post by **Luskan** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:06 am

Actually, the fuel reserves weren't looking too good but Balikpapan yielded a bloody fortune - in oil as well as fuel that has put me back in the black. palembang is on the list, yes, but Brunei and miri from turn 1, as well as my captured chinese bases have been pumping enough oil and resources to keep the economy together for a long whlie.

DEI I will take, but still debating plans.

Raver did less than 5 sys damage in total to any of my cas because his dauntlesses were at long range and are crap pilots. unfortunately for him, he missed the mammoth convoy two days before. Fortunately for him, he arrived at the precise turn I transferred all the betties out of Kendari. They're at Rangoon now sinking his transports off Akyab (4 in 2 turns). However because his cvs shows up I sent in some nells . . . which chose this turn to upgrade to betties (so they all went damaged). Swearing a lot, I've got nothing to do but admit Raver caught me out of position and off guard in the south, and have to watch his stupid CV (only one I think?) escape off beneath PNG and then into the pacific.

So although he would have lost his cv if he'd come two turns before, I wold have lost a lot more tks.

Raverdave · Post by **Raverdave** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:27 am

Yeah Luskan is looking for a decisive victory in China, but so far I have been able to trade territory for time, and have largely been able to keep all of my Chinese units intact.......this in turn forces Luskan to keep a LOT of troops in China, as I know that he would dearly love to ship them out else where.

As far as Burma/India is concerned, well the golden chance to take Burma has been and gone. If Luskan had thrust hard and deep........er..ok maybe wrong choice of words considering how he has been tlaking about his bananananana lately.....but back to the lesson. If Luskan had of moved fast he could have taken most if not all of Burma. As things stand now I have all of the routes north well covered AND have two FULL strength Britsh Divisions in reserve to plug any holes that may appear. I also have some major plans for this theater that are under study right now, and if all the I's get dotted and the Ts crossed then there will be some MAJOR action in two months time.

The south pacific are not the only places that Luskan should be worried about. To date I have had a free had in the Northern Pacific and the buildup is progessing very well indeed even if the weather is causing operational losses and maintenance problems.

My plan is simple...hit him everywhere and look for the weakness then have the units ready to exploit the whole.

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