Formosa Oil

[worr]

Does formosa have enough oil to take care of its own needs?

Taipe has 50 oil; 5 Manpower; 240 HI and 300 Resource

Tainan has 5 Manpower; 240 HI and 30 Resource.

Oil is sitting in the other Formosa cities, but they don't need it. Should that oil be carted away?

Worr, out

[AmiralLaurent]

That oil will eventually be carried by rail to the HI centers but Formosa will run out of oil in around two months (so you may carry some oil from your new conquests or from Japan (where stock are goof for 6 months))

5000 oil points are enough in Formosa for one month.

The first part of the Japanese empire needing oil is Indochina (only one month in stock). It needs 10000 points per month.

Japan needs around 230 000 points per month if you don't expand the HI here.

[worr]

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

The first part of the Japanese empire needing oil is Indochina (only one month in stock). It needs 10000 points per month.

What port would you sent the oil too? Saigon?

Also, what port in Formosa? Tainan, since the rail has to sent the oil from Taipe there?

Worr, out

[Mr.Frag]

Short 168 resources and 180 oil a turn to maximize it. Send a small TK worth of oil and a Large AK worth of resources once a month and you can ignore it.

[AmiralLaurent]

Yes Saigon is probably the best place as HI are based here and will be carried by road to Hanoi. Haiphong is more far from the oil sources and may be raided from China.

Formosa is small enough for the port location to really matter, choose the bigger port (probably Tainan).

On a side note, China/Mandchoukouo/Korea has enough oil at start for 8 months (theorically).

And the real number for Japan is 7 months (213 days).

[worr]

Thanks...this is a big help to others too I'm sure.

OK, what other ports of entry should you send supplies to?

Let me see if I have it all straight. You need to send oil and resources back to:

1) Japan---Nagasaki would work fine

2) Formosa--tainan would work

3) China--I'm guessing Hong Kong?

4) Indochina--Saigon would be a good port of entry

5) Malaya--if you have a road to Saigon open...do you need to let off at Singapore?

6) Shikoku--this island is right off Japan and can be overlooked.

Have I missed a land mass?

I guess a couple of questions are behind my inquiry. First, is what is the impact of rail and road lines on redistribution of oil and resources. Up in Manchukuo you have a good deal of oil flowing down to port arthur, but it doesn't seem to flow out to Saigon even if you have rail and roads connecting. So there has to be a limit to roads...maybe the same as in another place in the rules.

Another question behind this inquiry is what is the best port to get the oil and resources to the factories in the land mass. There may be a more central location, but at a smaller port, etc.

Worr, out

[AmiralLaurent]

ORIGINAL: worr

Thanks...this is a big help to others too I'm sure.

OK, what other ports of entry should you send supplies to?

Let me see if I have it all straight. You need to send oil and resources back to:

1) Japan---Nagasaki would work fine

2) Formosa--tainan would work

3) China--I'm guessing Hong Kong?

4) Indochina--Saigon would be a good port of entry

5) Malaya--if you have a road to Saigon open...do you need to let off at Singapore?

6) Shikoku--this island is right off Japan and can be overlooked.

Have I missed a land mass?

I guess a couple of questions are behind my inquiry. First, is what is the impact of rail and road lines on redistribution of oil and resources. Up in Manchukuo you have a good deal of oil flowing down to port arthur, but it doesn't seem to flow out to Saigon even if you have rail and roads connecting. So there has to be a limit to roads...maybe the same as in another place in the rules.

Another question behind this inquiry is what is the best port to get the oil and resources to the factories in the land mass. There may be a more central location, but at a smaller port, etc.

Worr, out

The bigger port with rail connection is the best

Japan: Nagasaki is only size 6 port, while one hex away Sasebo is a size 10, so definetly Sasebo

Formosa: Tainan

China: HongKong needs some but the bets would be to let some with rail connection to N China and Manchukuo/Korea so Shangai is a good spot for the main unloading. Or you need to conquer Central China and control completly the railyard here.

Indochina: Saigon
Malaya: I think but I am not sure that once Malaya is in control ressources and oil will be carried from Singapore up to Hanoi. Right now on first turn oil and ressources are sent from Saigon to Hanoi and Bangkok, even if there is a non-rail hex (road) between Saigon and Bangkok. Or they come the other way, from Siagon to Singapore

6) Shinkoku: don't know if this area needs some shipping or is linked to the next hex of Honshu, but it probably needs some. Anyway you can the island jumping from time to time

Two more land masses
7) Hokkaido (N Japan Island) needs also shipping but to recover oil and ressources as it has an excess production of both

8) Kuriles: at Toyohara there are 5 HI, some ressources but no oil. Send a TK once in the game and that should be OK for all the game

As for the use of Singapore, it could be a good gathering place for small convoys coming from all over the area and then big convoys going to Japan under heavy escort.

[Xargun]

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

The bigger port with rail connection is the best

Japan: Nagasaki is only size 6 port, while one hex away Sasebo is a size 10, so definetly Sasebo

Formosa: Tainan

China: HongKong needs some but the bets would be to let some with rail connection to N China and Manchukuo/Korea so Shangai is a good spot for the main unloading. Or you need to conquer Central China and control completly the railyard here.

Indochina: Saigon
Malaya: I think but I am not sure that once Malaya is in control ressources and oil will be carried from Singapore up to Hanoi. Right now on first turn oil and ressources are sent from Saigon to Hanoi and Bangkok, even if there is a non-rail hex (road) between Saigon and Bangkok. Or they come the other way, from Siagon to Singapore

6) Shinkoku: don't know if this area needs some shipping or is linked to the next hex of Honshu, but it probably needs some. Anyway you can the island jumping from time to time

Two more land masses
7) Hokkaido (N Japan Island) needs also shipping but to recover oil and ressources as it has an excess production of both

8) Kuriles: at Toyohara there are 5 HI, some ressources but no oil. Send a TK once in the game and that should be OK for all the game

As for the use of Singapore, it could be a good gathering place for small convoys coming from all over the area and then big convoys going to Japan under heavy escort.

You can forget about the Home Islands - don't forget oil/resources/fuel/supplies will travel over 1 HEX of water IF there is a base at both ends of at least size 3. So all the Home Islands are fine and will be fed from stockpiles in Japan.

Sasebo is a good choice to unload oil and resources at because it is a size 10 port and will unload faster.

Xargun

[AmiralLaurent]

ORIGINAL: Xargun

You can forget about the Home Islands - don't forget oil/resources/fuel/supplies will travel over 1 HEX of water IF there is a base at both ends of at least size 3. So all the Home Islands are fine and will be fed from stockpiles in Japan.

I had missed this one. OK good news, will just have to check for the Kuriles industry center.