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TF 38
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Dear MatrixGames:

I paid a boatload of money for this game. I've enjoyed it, thus far, and haven't regretted the purchase until this evening when I visited the site looking for a patch. It was then that I was first confronted with the concept of the MEMBERS AREA.

Frankly, I find it absolutely obscene that I suffered the indiginity of having to provide considerable PERSONAL INFORMATION about myself, including my age and mailing address in order to access upgrades for an $80 game.

Further, having RELUCTANTLY PROVIDED the information to MG, I have yet to be given access to the downloads. Simply put, you can get this mess squared away or I can go sell this bloody mess on ebay and cut my losses.

My time is simply TOO valuable to waste on an outfit that would treat customers in so shoddy a fashion. :|
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Ouch, that's gotta hurt.

Of course, I can't say that I blame him. I shouldn't have to "register" to download a patch for a game I shelled out 80 clams for. Course, I don't mind it that bad..
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You ( TF 38 ) provided the same info for the Digital Download/CD on demand didn`t you ?, name, address, phone # ??

The log in info is sent to you by automated EMail and it took me 30 sec to get it and log in.

Perhaps it`s an EMail issue. Either way I`m sure Matrix will sort it out fast, besides the game just too good to let go[;)]
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Whoa, slow down there friend.[:)]

The whole concept here is to allow Matrix some form of monopoly on the availability of game updates and other goodies. There's other things for which it can be used, but I'm thinking that's primary. When a publisher goes digital, they need some form of anti-piracy control, especially when they're not an imposing industry giant that can afford to lose a few sales.

That said, you should be getting a confirmation email for your registration efforts that will allow access to the game registration process and any patches to come for Matrix products you now own. The tutorial and registration patch are still available via links here on the forum should you have troubles with those activities.
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Information?

Jesus, Digital River didn't ask me for all of that stuff! :<

But hey, if MG wants to screw over their customers out of paranoia, let 'em.

The question is, can I get a refund if I'm gonna be denied access to patches for the program?
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You won't be denied access to patches. What specifically is the problem you're having?
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I do not think MG is the one with paranoia......
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You do not have to log in, or register in gaining access to these forums. You can read them, and download patches, all you can not do is post questions like you are doing now. You do not have to register anything in order to download patches.
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...considerable PERSONAL INFORMATION about myself, including my age and mailing address..

There is a "Not Telling" field for age. I hardly think that just "country" and "city" qualify as a full mailing address.

Many companies will not provide ANY support for a product unless you register it by providing a great deal more information than Matrix requires. Here you get this nice forum without filling out any forms at all (unless you want to post).
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I'm sorry, but I'm hopping mad. :)

I had laid off of the game, having played it very intensely for the first couple of weeks after it was released.

I visited the site tonight hoping for a patch before I tried a new scenario.

I used the UPDATE icon from the WitP program menu looking for an upgrade and got dumped to THE MEMBERS AREA instead.

Among other data that I supplied (again much of which is NONE of MG's business), was the email addy and such that I used to download the game.

Again, however, having put up with this nonsense, I have yet to receive the email GRANTING me access to product upgrades for a game that I paid $80 for.

I'm sorry, but this is simply unacceptable. I realize that is all sounds shrill, but this is TRULY outrageous.
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You can get the available patches from the support area of the forum
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Frankly, I find it absolutely obscene that I suffered the indiginity of having to provide considerable PERSONAL INFORMATION about myself, including my age and mailing address in order to access upgrades for an $80 game.

Privacy is an illusion. Get over it. Less histrionics for teh win plz!1!

That's number one.

Number two, no one is really asking you for squat. I just registered in the Members Area, and I used a yahoo email account, and all the other information I provided was completely bogus (just like all the bogus information I fill into online forms everywhere - which I assume everyone else does too). So Matrix knows absolutely NOTHING about me, except that I have a valid Serial number because I bought WITP. Now I can download all the patches I want.

Matrix isn't going to delete your account because you put down your age as 999 or your name as Mr. X. The only thing that matters to them is that you have a valid Serial to download the patch.

Good grief.
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He's just a Matrix Recruit...give him a break...recruits aren't the swiftest folks out there...as a Marine recruit, I don't know how many times I said, "Sir! This recruit had a brain fart Sir!"...[:D]

Besides, the only information that is required has the asterisks next to them. Everything else is optional IIRC.
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Hello TF 38. You can't be granted access to upgrades because there are no upgrades. (Yet)
The only patch is posted here in the forum. If you don't have error 722 I don't think it applies.
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Nice to see your Avatar works now Mog. I was wondering what happened to it
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ORIGINAL: TF 38

I'm sorry, but I'm hopping mad. :)

I had laid off of the game, having played it very intensely for the first couple of weeks after it was released.

I visited the site tonight hoping for a patch before I tried a new scenario.

I used the UPDATE icon from the WitP program menu looking for an upgrade and got dumped to THE MEMBERS AREA instead.

Among other data that I supplied (again much of which is NONE of MG's business), was the email addy and such that I used to download the game.

Again, however, having put up with this nonsense, I have yet to receive the email GRANTING me access to product upgrades for a game that I paid $80 for.

I'm sorry, but this is simply unacceptable. I realize that is all sounds shrill, but this is TRULY outrageous.

No, it not. If that's important to you then it's important to you.[:)]

1. The only patches out for WitP are the registration patch (helps register your copy with the serial no. given in your order confirmation email) and the tutorial patch. Both are available in the "War in the Pacific Support" sub forum. The forthcoming patch is just that - forthcoming. ETA is this weekend if everything goes according to plan.

2. As you are having trouble with the Members Area registration, I suggest you contact Matrix staff via email. They respond quickly and are quite helpful. Don't give up just yet. After all, you've gone this far already...[;)]

Here's the email address you need: membersarea@matrixgames.com
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I suspect his email server is just slow. I registered in the Members Area five minutes ago and I pressed Submit and opened another browser to get my yahoo mail and there it was, and I know yahoo mail isn't the fastest out there.
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TF38,

I have been here since 2001. I have yet to use or login into the members area. I can and do get all my support and patches right through these forums. So your issue of having to register to get into the members area to get support and/or patches for this game is wrong. You need to relax, and realize that you are wrong and that you will not need to go into the members area unless you want to. All patches for this game with be available from this forum, or the sub forum called Support.
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All patches for this game with be available from this forum, or the sub forum called Support.

I'm pretty sure they will only be available through the Members Area. If you go in there right now you will see a space for the WITP patch, and if you click it they ask for the Serial:

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Welcome to the Matrix Games Members area.
 The following game updates are available :
 Note : You must register each game to gain download access.
 
 Starshatter	Starshatter Patch v4.0.2	26 JUL 2004	Register
 War In The Pacific	No updates		Register
 
 Download Retail Patches : For Matrix products that do not require serial numbers.
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ORIGINAL: carnifex
All patches for this game with be available from this forum, or the sub forum called Support.

I'm pretty sure they will only be available through the Members Area. If you go in there right now you will see a space for the WITP patch, and if you click it they ask for the Serial:

Yes, but not for the two minor ones we've already got.[:)]
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