World Cup 2002

RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Sun Dec 02, 2001 3:47 pm

Originally posted by choco:
Hej, Janusz (Czesc Ci) it's perfectly understable why RichardTheFirst wish not to compare Portugal with Spain, it's for us like somebody wish to compare Poland with CCCP, Slovian people, mixed history but definitivly not the same...

Well, Portugal is the 2nd older country in Europe, we are independant since the beginning of the XII century. If you take into consideration that there was only 60 years (1580-1640) we lost our independence to Spain because our king die being the descendant a spanish (in 1640 we had a popular revolution against the spanish and expeled them) that every attempt Spain made in history for invasion was violently repeled; that we have a different language and a very strong national identity; very hardly one can consider that Portugal and Spain have a mixed history.

Originally posted by choco:
Oh and Richard : We already were at the 3rd place two times, so U r kind to let us the 3rd place but we'll prefer... the only good place of the WCup : The First...

Right, Poland always have been very tough in the final phase. Portugal have a third place too in the 1966 Cup in England, with Eusébio's fab team and everybody said we deserved to win. OK then, I wouldn't mind if we go both to the finals <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

scimitar · Post by **scimitar** » Sun Dec 02, 2001 5:08 pm

I don't know if Belgium will go far in the competition (just hope that...), but it's the sixth time CONSECUTIVELY we qualifie for a World Cup! I think it's a record, no?
Greetings to our adversaries: Japan, Russia and Tunisia.

Lars Remmen · Post by **Lars Remmen** » Sun Dec 02, 2001 5:11 pm

The last four championships where Danmark and France have met in the preliminary matches, the winner of that match have won the overall championship (France Euro 1984, Denmark Euro 1992, France World Cup 1998 and France Euro 2000). And guess what? They'll meet again in the preliminaries. So we'll know who will win the trophy quite early on. The remaining countries may compete for second place - sorry...

Regards,

Lars

RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Sun Dec 02, 2001 8:14 pm

Originally posted by scimitar:
I don't know if Belgium will go far in the competition (just hope that...), but it's the sixth time CONSECUTIVELY we qualifie for a World Cup! I think it's a record, no?

Yes, Belgium always have been very competitive in the final stages. For me you created a school in the time of Eric Gerets when Belgium was the best team in line defense. You had also the best goal-keeper ever to play at Benfica: Michel Preud'homme. Good luck!

Originally posted by Lars Remmen:
The last four championships where Danmark and France have met in the preliminary matches, the winner of that match have won the overall championship (France Euro 1984, Denmark Euro 1992, France World Cup 1998 and France Euro 2000). And guess what? They'll meet again in the preliminaries. So we'll know who will win the trophy quite early on. The remaining countries may compete for second place - sorry...

Enough is enough, Lars. Four times is too much coincidence, five - impossible, sorry <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> . BTW: does any of the Laudrup brothers still play? Good luck to Denmark.

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choco · Post by **choco** » Sun Dec 02, 2001 8:52 pm

Originally posted by RichardTheFirst:

very hardly one can consider that Portugal and Spain have a mixed history.

well, RichardTheFirst, what i wanted to mean (but sorry for my poor English) is that Portugal an Spain have a history which is linked to each other, as neighbours each country was aware of the other and have to compose with the other one actions... so if u look my comparaison with Poland and CCCP (ok ok Russia....) was not so bad : Polish independence gained first in 1024 (yes in XIth century for those who always thinked that Poland appeared by magic on European map after the WWI in 1919...) we were invaded a lot of times (not counting by Prussia - Germany, Mongols and even those good old Vikings...) diseaperring even from the map during 125 years and have each time refused the occupation with the last one ended in nintees with the depart of Red Army from our country... and still a strong national idendity..

To all others : Ok, ok i will stop to boring u with history , but u know what it is beetween that good old Europeans <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Lars Remmen · Post by **Lars Remmen** » Sun Dec 02, 2001 9:30 pm

Originally posted by RichardTheFirst:

Enough is enough, Lars. Four times is too much coincidence, five - impossible, sorry <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> . BTW: does any of the Laudrup brothers still play? Good luck to Denmark.

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Well, I do think it is Denmark's turn to win. Both against France and the champoinship <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> Neither Laudrup are active any more. But Laudrup the Elder (Michael) is the assistant coach for the national team.

And good luck to Portugal as well!

Regards,

Lars

sebagonzalez · Post by **sebagonzalez** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:09 am

having won 2 World Cups, and after 2 world cups without qualifing..WE ARE IN!!!!!
Good luck to the teams in our Serie...and.....Se ya in Korea!!!!

La pasa Recoba para Dario silva, Dario pica, elude a uno, elude a 2, tira...GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
URUGUAY!!!!!!!!!!

RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 3:04 am

Welcome back Uruguay. Good luck.

I forgot to wish good luck to my friends of Argentina and France. Doing it now.

Choco: I understand your point. I wasn't pissed <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> . Coming back to history (sorry guys), I didn't know Poland was independant since the XI century, I knew it was old though. Very intersting. And I would like to correct the information I gave: Portugal is not the 2nd older country, we have the 2nd older unchanged borders, after England (my appologies).

All: Football is really a passion isn't it? I mean here we are all, each pushing for his country, but with a common language. Here goes the argument that football divides people...
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ruxius · Post by **ruxius** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:26 pm

I hope Italy will give you any chance ....
EH EH EH !!!
Anyway I fear we all will be surprised by the newly incoming African soccer...

RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 9:54 pm

And I hope you don't pay for those words <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> , but true: Italy always had the best defence (at least in theory). Good luck Italy.

Comment: This forum is really good. Few contries I didn't wish good luck yet <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Figo passa por Nesta, senta Cannavaro no chão, finta Maldini, centra para Nuno Gomes... remata de cabeça............ GGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOO. Poveretto Buffon.