Name This...(142)
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Ron Saueracker
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Too small to be a B-24 from this angle.
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The following RAAF squadrons were equipped with Liberators: Nos. 12, 21, 23, 24, 25, 36, 99, and 102. Five of these squadrons had previously operated Vultee Vengeance dive bombers. Most of the RAAF Liberator operations were directed against targets and shipping in the former Dutch East Indies which had been overrun by the Japanese. Many RAAF Liberator operations were conducted out of air bases in the Northern Territory and Queensland, whereas others were flown from bases in Burma.
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No. 25 (City of Perth) Sqdn RAAF was actually home based @ Cunderdin, which is approx 175km east of Perth in Western Australia. When flying missions over the DEI they staged out of Airfields in the North West. The Cunderdon Airbase is still there, long decommisioned, but still used for civil flights (and some air shows).
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No way in Hell is that a Liberator. B-25 maybe, but way to small to be a Liberator. Those things were huge. My grandad always remarked about how big his was.
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My grandad always remarked about how big his was.
Sorry - couldn't resist! That could be taken horribly out of context [:D]
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The landing gear gives it away.
It's a Liberator alright.
The B-25 has a straight landing gear assembly which is attached to the wheel on the inside rather than the outside like in this case. Ergo, a B-24.
Compare with this pic:
Notice that despite its' size, it rides really low on the gear. The Mitchell is taller standing on the pad, even if it's a smaller aircraft.
It's a Liberator alright.
The B-25 has a straight landing gear assembly which is attached to the wheel on the inside rather than the outside like in this case. Ergo, a B-24.
Compare with this pic:
Notice that despite its' size, it rides really low on the gear. The Mitchell is taller standing on the pad, even if it's a smaller aircraft.
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I thought it was some aircraft specific marking...but it is really a quite dusty RAAF roundel. Look at the barely visible second, darker circle.
Ergo RAAF B-24...dont think there is any way to tell model type from this view.
Ergo RAAF B-24...dont think there is any way to tell model type from this view.
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They do have a B-24 at Castle AFB. (And I forgot to dig around for my pictures of it). The one thing that really struck me about the B-24 was how _very_ low to the ground it sat on the pad. I have a picture of the belly turret. About a foot clearance as I recall.
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This isn't my close-up of the belly turret but you can see how little ground clearance there is:
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OOpsie.... at that angle the plane looked a LOT smaller than a Lib. [:D]
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Looks like ya did good this time Brady...[:D]
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Ground Clearance of belly turret on B-24
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Liberator, it is[:)]
RAAF Liberator, Location India, Circa 1945.
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Takeoffs must have been an interesting experience for the belly gunner! [X(]
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Take-offs?!?!?!
What about the landings?!?!?!
What about the landings?!?!?!
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Take-offs?!?!?!
What about the landings?!?!?!
Useful in bad weather though"
Belly Gunner: "Ok...twenty five feet on centerline.....twenty.....fifteen....ten...eight, seven, six ,five, four, down a bit ....."
Pilot: "Damn! I HATE when that happens"
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If I'm not mistaken, the B24, unlike the B17, retracted the belly turret inside the aircraft for takeoffs and landings.
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DrewMatrix
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retracted the belly turret
Or at least retracted the belly turret gunner!
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