War Plan Orange Mod: First Look!

[Tankerace]

Since no one has heard about my modding from me in a while, I thought I'd post a teaser from my upcoming War Plan Orange mod. Here are the graphics of the US Dreadnoughts that will make an appearance in the game. Enjoy!



I am looking for a September-October release date for the mod.

[Ron Saueracker]

I'm a huge fan Tanker! Is this more a what-if with the cancelled Washington Treaty ships or more a historical effort? Gonna take a lot of OOB work.

Dunb question with the South Dakota staring me in the face![:D]

[Tankerace]

I'm going for a more what if type of thing, because I have alwas wanted to play a game where the battleship is the queen of the sea. The OOB is going to be tough, but doing it is going to give me an excuse to be "sicK" during my college classes now [:D]

I have most of the guns done already, and I am doing the different class graphics, then I will move to actually creating an OOB. A lot of work, but it gives me something to do when not playing WiTP.

[Tankerace]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
Dunb question with the South Dakota staring me in the face![:D]

hehehe [:D]

Glad you like them Ron.

[Ron Saueracker]

Always thought the Delawares looked cool with the cage mast/funnel/cage mast/funnel spacing. I laughed when I read that "Ain't Scared 'o' Nothin'" was "considered for the South Carolina...in response to "Dreadnought".[:D]

[bradfordkay]

Well if it was for the South Carolina, it should have been "T'aint skeered a nuttin!" [:'(]

[ATCSMike]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I'm going for a more what if type of thing, because I have alwas wanted to play a game where the battleship is the queen of the sea. The OOB is going to be tough, but doing it is going to give me an excuse to be "sicK" during my college classes now [:D]

OU or OSU?

Their loss is our gain....

Mike, the transplanted OKIE...

[von Murrin]

Pretty cool Tank. I'd love to see it when final form hits.[:)]

[Montbrun]

What are the intended dates of your scenario, Tanker?

[AlvinS]

Tankerace

Looks great. I look forward to playing this mod. Thank you for doing this.

[Bobthehatchit]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I'm going for a more what if type of thing, because I have alwas wanted to play a game where the battleship is the queen of the sea. The OOB is going to be tough, but doing it is going to give me an excuse to be "sicK" during my college classes now [:D]

I have most of the guns done already, and I am doing the different class graphics, then I will move to actually creating an OOB. A lot of work, but it gives me something to do when not playing WiTP.

Cool, love the OOB mods you've done already.

Are they lexington calls BC going to be included?

Will there be any RN involvement?

[Oznoyng]

Now that I have decoded the scenario files, I was toying with the idea of making an app that replaced the editor and allowed for web based, cooperative scenario editing, better reporting, etc. Not sure how Matrix would feel about that though ...

[Tankerace]

ORIGINAL: ATCSMike

OU or OSU?

Actually NSU for the basics, OSU is too damn high now. I might go there in a year or two though.

ORIGINAL: Brad Hunter

What are the intended dates of your scenario, Tanker?

I'm looking for a 1922 Scenario, which will have the WWI dreadnoughts and predroughts included, and a 1924 variant, which half the predreanoughts will be gone, but the "never-were" South Dakotas, Lexingtons, Amagi, and Kaga class ships come into play.

Cool, love the OOB mods you've done already.

Are they lexington calls BC going to be included?

Will there be any RN involvement?

Glad you like them Bob. Yep, the Lexingtons will be represented, and as for the RN, I am going to include a full Royal Navy database, although for balance issues only a few of the big ships will see action.

However, I am also considering giving the Japanese a full RN database, and then simulate "War Plan Black" aswell, a hypothetical war between the US and Britain. I'm not sure I'll include that one or not. I might do it as an expansion to the mod.


One cool thing when this is done, is the British ships will bristle with guns, because I nearly have to represent each turret. For HMS Dreadnought, for instance 2 12" guns forward, 2 in a LS mount, 2 in a RS mount, 2 in a Center mount, and 2 facing rear. Its niftry, but its going to take a careful eye to make sure that each ship is modeled correctly. Its gonna be lots o' fun!

Hehe..."ain't Scared o' nothin"... Gotta love us American's.

[Bobthehatchit]

Glad you like them Bob. Yep, the Lexingtons will be represented, and as for the RN, I am going to include a full Royal Navy database, although for balance issues only a few of the big ships will see action.

However, I am also considering giving the Japanese a full RN database, and then simulate "War Plan Black" aswell, a hypothetical war between the US and Britain. I'm not sure I'll include that one or not. I might do it as an expansion to the mod.


One cool thing when this is done, is the British ships will bristle with guns, because I nearly have to represent each turret. For HMS Dreadnought, for instance 2 12" guns forward, 2 in a LS mount, 2 in a RS mount, 2 in a Center mount, and 2 facing rear. Its niftry, but its going to take a careful eye to make sure that each ship is modeled correctly. Its gonna be lots o' fun!

Hehe..."ain't Scared o' nothin"... Gotta love us American's.
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Just weight until you do Agincourt 14 12" guns! hehe!

I thought about the Balance as well, the RN was bigger than the IJN and USN put together!

A US-UK Slub fest would be interesting!

[Tankerace]

I will be including some subs, but given the time period they won't be that effective.

This mod will require an entirely new style of playing, as the weapons will be fairly interesting. US, UK, and Japanese submarines will be in the mod, but there torpedoes will be highly innacurate, and prone to duds. However, like surface ship torpedoes, if (IF) you can score a hit, one or two torpedoes will sink a dreadnought, as underwater protection wass not a top priority for the 1910's. Remember, at the battle of Jutland the predreadnought Pommerin took 1 torpedo and exploded, killing the entire crew. As a rule (but not 100%), a dreadnought should be able to take at least 2 torpedoes, but no more than three.

Airplanes too will be limited to scouting for the most part. On the funny note, they will be able to attack ships, but ship AA armament will be fairly limited (3" (14 pounders), 12 pounders, 1 pounders, and machine guns). The Aircraft Carrier, for the most part, will be a long range scout to find the enemy battle fleet.

Another thing that the player will have to realize is that battlecruisers are NOT dreadnoughts. Several battlecruiser types will be represented, and if used improperly, the player can suffer a Jutland.

What I plan to do, in an effort to bring the RN in, is the US will not get all of its dreadnoughts (in the earrly 1920's only 7 were assigned to the Pacific Fleet), but the RN will send some of its older ships to aid the US. So, for balance, the Allied player gets 1/4-1/2 of the US fleet, plus small numbers of British ships, wheras the Japanese get their ENTIRE fleet. Its gonna be interesting!

[Tankerace]

ORIGINAL: Bobthehatchit

Just weight until you do Agincourt 14 12" guns! hehe!

Well, I did some research, and it seems that HMS Agincourt was decommissioned in 1919, and was converted to a depot ship in 1920, BEFORE the Washington Treaty. But, I suppose I can make one....litte... fudge and let her in as a dreadnought, right? [;)]

[Smiffus64]

It does look great. Will you include the plane carrying airships (USS Macon and Arcon) the US made around 1934? Perhaps it is outside the date range of the scenario though.

Their impact will be perhaps minor, but the idea is just too cool [:)]

[Bobthehatchit]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

ORIGINAL: Bobthehatchit

Just weight until you do Agincourt 14 12" guns! hehe!

Well, I did some research, and it seems that HMS Agincourt was decommissioned in 1919, and was converted to a depot ship in 1920, BEFORE the Washington Treaty. But, I suppose I can make one....litte... fudge and let her in as a dreadnought, right? [;)]

Right on!

Obviously due to the changing political situation her conversion was put on hold and she was placed in ordinary reserve. Can't have you leaving out the ship with the largest broad side ever, even if her armour was a little on the light side. 14 12"guns i mean come on!

[mutterfudder]

Sweet!

[Maliki]

What no dirigibles?[:D]