Goodbye Beautiful Carrier Names

[Mike Scholl]

The name I'd like to see restored to the list is the USS England. After knocking off
6 or 7 Japanese submarines in nine days, some Admiral said "There will always be an
England in the US Navy." Be a good name for an ASW Frigate..., and the "all-time"
kill record deserves comemoration.

[UncleBuck]

Well if you feel that way about it. http://www.ussengland.net/DE635/ They have a place to sign a petition to get teh England back on teh seas in a new Ship name. I have a buddy here at work that was on the England and I met him when I was in the Navy doing Calibration work for his boat.

UB

[Williamb]

How do you feel about the USS Winston Churchill ?

The only US ship named after a non US citizen.

Personally think was a good choice.

[Mike Scholl]

Thanks for the site info. That's a letter worth writing.

[UncleBuck]

Teh USS winston Churchill is nto the first warship named after a Non-US citizen. The USS Laffyette was named after a French General from teh Revolutionary war.

UB

[vonmoltke]

ORIGINAL: William Amos

How do you feel about the USS Winston Churchill ?

The only US ship named after a non US citizen.

Personally think was a good choice.

Actually, it isn't. There is also USS Compte De Grasse (DD 974). Dunno if he counts as an American or not, but there is the USS Casimir Pulaski (SSBN 633).

[MengCiao]

ORIGINAL: fbastos

Enterprise, Ranger,Wasp, Hornet and Langley were hardly battle names.

That's a good point. Enterprise I can understand, as there were famous Enterprise boats before. But it completely baffles me where Ranger, Wasp and Hornet came from. Perhaps they wanted to give the carriers flying insect names starting with Wasp/Hornet, then changed their mind?

And Ranger... argh... it's an uninspired name for an uninspired ship. Perhaps named in honor of a famous boat?

The Wasp and Hornet were US Warships from around 1800 AD.

[LargeSlowTarget]

ORIGINAL: 2Stepper

Sort of funny reading through this thread how whenever the ENTERPRISE name comes up people usually think the "Big E" with the saucer section and warp drive. LOL! Theres SO MUCH history with that ship and ship name. The navy obviously loved her. They built the first Nuclear Carrier and named her "Enterpise" and the first shuttle was named that as well.

Just trivia, but IIRC from my Trekkie days, Gene Roddenberry originally wanted the NCC-1701 to carry the name 'USS Yorktown' (with a Captain April instead of Kirk commanding). And if I'm not mistaken, the first shuttle was named 'Enterprise' instead of 'Constitution' after a write-in campaign following the the tv feature of 'Star Trek' - but that's perhaps just an urban legend...?

[eMonticello]

That is true. http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/res ... prise.html

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
Just trivia, but IIRC from my Trekkie days, Gene Roddenberry originally wanted the NCC-1701 to carry the name 'USS Yorktown' (with a Captain April instead of Kirk commanding). And if I'm not mistaken, the first shuttle was named 'Enterprise' instead of 'Constitution' after a write-in campaign following the the tv feature of 'Star Trek' - but that's perhaps just an urban legend...?

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: pry

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker



Nimitz a Politican?

Sure it wasn't Nimitz more due to his War service?

And Ike? Might been more due to his War Service then him being President...

Carl Vinson was a Politican?


Carl Vinson was SecNav.

Ron at least get his job right will ya [;)] (Canadians think they know everything [:-])

CONGRESSMAN Carl Vinson of Georgia, did more to help the US armed forces especially the US Navy that any other elected politician in the 20th century.

Serving 50+ years, 29 of those as the chairman of the House Naval Affairs Committee, Armed Services Committee. Author of the Vinson - Trammel Act, better known as the Two Ocean Navy Act just prior to the outbreak of WWII, he also championed naval Avaitaion and also pushed thru the funding that allowed Rickover to play with nukes on submarines. He was a friend of the Navy on the hill for his entire tenure in congress.

If ANY politician ever deserved a ship named after them Congressman Vinson certainly did for his tireless efforts on behalf of the US Navy during 50+ years of public service.

Congressman, SecNav, Roscoe P Coaltrain...all the same![:D][;)] What's sad is Canadians tend to learn about other countries more because Canadian history is sooooooo boring for the most part (unless you are some freak who loves political history!) Nothing worse than revereing politicians.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: 2Stepper

Sort of funny reading through this thread how whenever the ENTERPRISE name comes up people usually think the "Big E" with the saucer section and warp drive. LOL! Theres SO MUCH history with that ship and ship name. The navy obviously loved her. They built the first Nuclear Carrier and named her "Enterpise" and the first shuttle was named that as well.

Some of the politician named ships have their merits. I don't mind them as much, though to be fair, I'm surprised we didn't go back to that original naming convention for them. Why not have this?

CVN Lexington, CVN Saratoga, CVN Yorktown, CVN Hornet, CVN Wasp, CVN Enterprise

Works for me. [8D]

Didn't love the BigE enough. Had to scrap her in '59 to make what, slinkies, razor blades, switch blades. Why not scrap those shitty Dealey class obsolescent-as-built DEs or something?

[vonmoltke]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Didn't love the BigE enough. Had to scrap her in '59 to make what, slinkies, razor blades, switch blades. Why not scrap those shitty Dealey class obsolescent-as-built DEs or something?

We got more selling them to small, unsuspecting navies around the world. [:'(]

[Ron Saueracker]

What's up with naming ships after people who are not even dead yet? Give it up. Very bad case of Braun nosing it seems to me.

[vonmoltke]

Meh, we have no dignity anymore. Next thing you know, the pols will will be trading ship names for political support. [:'(]

[2Stepper]

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

Just trivia, but IIRC from my Trekkie days, Gene Roddenberry originally wanted the NCC-1701 to carry the name 'USS Yorktown' (with a Captain April instead of Kirk commanding). And if I'm not mistaken, the first shuttle was named 'Enterprise' instead of 'Constitution' after a write-in campaign following the the tv feature of 'Star Trek' - but that's perhaps just an urban legend...?

True on both counts there LST... He wrote a draft pilot in 1963 I believe for the series with Capt Robert April as the commander, and Yorktown was indeed the ship name. I'm glad for those changes, though its fun to dig into the history. Just like the shame of the scrapping of CV 6, I fear for the eventual total loss of my beloved tv show. Star Trek will live on in thought, but I think its TV/Movie days are sadly numbered...

As to the Shuttle Enterprise, the entire cast of the Series was on hand at the unveiling. Some of them (that are still with us) get moved when you ask them about that day. Though I was only 8, I still remember it. [8D]

[Cap Mandrake]

Some battle names are better nthan others..."Yorktown", "Saratoga" are home runs....."Cowpens"....hmmmm?

[marky]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Enterprise, Ranger,Wasp, Hornet and Langley were hardly battle names. But I see you're point, naming ships for polititcians, beauracrats and non historical geographical names is simply friggin' boring in my opinion.

AMEN


carriers shouldnt be named after whining selfish and greedy politicians

though, kennedy, eisenhower, and nimitz r GREAT examples of exceptions

those 3 were great men, and they were all in the military, so its even more fitting

kinda strange that a navy warship would b named after a commander of GROUND forces tho[:'(]

JF Kennedy? good name, esxpecially cuz jfk was in the navy


and as for CVN Nimitz?


PERFECT name [:D][:D][:D][:D]

i think the primary reason for the nimitz class being named after him was the great and noble victory at MIDWAY[:D]

im not saying that fletcher and spruance dont deserve their fair share of the credit for midway, CUZ THEY SURE AS HELL DO

but the carriers, were his (nimitz) "chess pieces" if u will, so i believe thats the primary reason for the naming of the nimitz class[:)]


tho i think that carriers should have "beautiful" names agin

perhaps they will......

in 2012 ill run for president, win, and have them design and build the NEW Yorktown, and Wasp class suppercarriers [:D]

y 2012 u ask?

cuz u can bet that John Kerry is gonna win, and win again[:D]



any thoughts?

[:)]

[Admiral DadMan]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Who cares about the votes. Do ya think the thevoters in the state of Connecticut paid more than any other tax payers to get a Seawolf Class SSN named after it? Isn't New London and Electric Boat enough of a bloody kickback over the decades?

Hey now... easy boy...

[RUPD3658]

the N means Nuclear powered as in CVN, SSN, etc

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I'm just waiting for a USS Bill Clinton, the first fully female manned warship in the USN.

In New Jersey we may have the SSN James McGreavy. It goes down and up and down...