Unit Encyclopedia update: looking for volunteers

[Jamminji]

ORIGINAL: parusski

Well I can't contribute but PLEASE. A printable copy of Thew encyclopedia is something I have prayed for for years. Oh PLEASE

http://worldatwar.clone.cz/encyclopedia/

Not quite a printable version I think, but here is a great online version. "BE SURE TO NOTICE THE UNIT COMPARISON", it is a little hard to see. I sure hope they update it to 8.2! Maybe we should give this site some promption and support!

jam

[Major Destruction]

To be sure, this is a great online resource.

The SPWAW encyclopedia serves to describe the unit you are using.

I have been involved in this game as a player for many years and may find it difficult to understand what the new player wants to see when he hits the space bar.

Do you want to see a bunch of statistics or some historical data or how to use the unit in the game or what this unit is capable of doing or what?

The text file is limited in size but the descriptions you see may leave you in awe or at a loss. What do you want to see?

[BEER]

Updating ООВ in version 8.2 will concern only the text?
Whether it is impossible to make updating ООВ the USSR, having added some kinds of arms? There are kinds of arms which are not included in game and which were to be seen in it.

[Major Destruction]

Which weapons would you like to see included?

[BEER]

Which weapons would you like to see included

In the first very much it would be desirable that it has been removed SU-37!! This sample of technics was in the single copy.
And to add - 76-mm mountain to a down of a sample 38 years. About 43 years to replace infantry to a down of a sample of 1927 with 76-mm to down OB-25 of a sample of 1943.
It would be desirable to see the staff bus GAZ - 05-193 and lorry ZIS-42.
Transport tractor STZ-5 and the Jet mortar on its base.
As it would be desirable to see Simonov's (PTRS) anti-tank gun, demolition flame throwers FOG-2 and separate units with flame throwers ROKS-3.
In game there is no automatic device PPS. It is possible to arm with this sample of a small arms since 1943 paratrooper, scouts, crews of tanks and motorcyclists . To create branches SMG armed PPSh and PPS. With 1944 to arm branches of infantry and a cavalry with carbines of a sample 44 years.
Will not prevent an artillery tractor Komintern.
Tankodesantniki to buy separately from tanks !
And that they are accessible only with T-34 obr.41.
To appropriate to anti-tank downs their present names - 76-mm F-22, 76-mm F-22USV, 57-mm ZIS-2 odr.41, ZIS-3 obr.42, 45-mm obr.37 and 45-mm M-42 obr.42, 85-mm D-44 and 100-mm BS-3.
In the winter 41-42 years of an army of Red Army applied a snowmobile, this technics would decorate ООВ Russia!!)


It while all! If the list you will be interested by me can give some references in English, but the some people will be in Russian!

[Major Destruction]

As you can see, the unit list for Soviet Union is full. We can not remove or replace units, except with something that has a similar icon and purpose.

For example, I could replace a field howitzer with some different field howitzer.
Or replace the SU-37 with some unit that has a similar appearance when viewed from above..........

Weapons can be added but they are useful only to scenario designers.

Note that many weapons are not different except by name. Rifles are pretty much identical, SMG's are very similar. Therefore to add a PPS is simply to copy the PPSh and give it a new name.

I can add the 76mm Mountain Gun M.38
I can add the 76mm OB-25 M.43

The lorry ZIS 42 is generic. It is represented by ZIS 5
There is no room to add the staff bus GAZ 05-193 or the STZ-5 with rocket launcher.
There is a generic bus in the Czech OOB.

I can add PTRS and Boys Anti tank rifles.

There are sufficient tactors for artillery haulage- stalinets and komsomolets. No room for Komintern.

We have most of the guns you asked for already in the weapons list.
Some of the names may not be perfect but we are restricted by the length of the name field in the game. Therefore see
45mm PTP obr.42 which you refer to as the 45mm M-42 obr.42 - same gun
similarly,
76.2mmZiS5 Gun which you refer to as 76.2mm F-22 (which is mounted on the ZIS-5 carriage)

100mm BS-3 is not included because I have no data. Would it be similar to the 100mm D-10T? Did the howitzer have HEAT ammo? what was the range? et cetera.....

is the performance of the 57mm ZIS-3 significantly different to the ZIS-2 or is this simply a change in gun carriage?

And the snowmobile? wait for Combat Leader!

[BEER]

is the performance of the 57mm ZIS-3 significantly different to the ZIS-2 or is this simply a change in gun carriage?

And the snowmobile? wait for Combat Leader!

You are right PPSh and PPS do not differ almost from each other the characteristics. But to see it in game it would be desirable. Let and nominally! I do not think what to specify that branch SMG about 43 years will be difficultly armed with automatic devices PPSh+PPS. But it not essentially)

ZIS-42 was issued on the basis of lorry ZIS-5 but had half-truck a running part that raised his passableness on a cross-country terrain. It would be very useful! You speak that there would be no place that it to add, but it is possible to clean not necessary AMO-15)
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/zis42.htm

Manufacture Komsomolets with the beginning of war has been stopped and he about 42 years can be entered into a place STZ-5. Which has served all war. As rocket launcher it would be useful. But if is not present so is not present))) It is a pity as as Ammo Carrier you cannot add it.
http://www.battlefield.ru/stz_r.html ( rus )

The designation of 45-mm ATG can be left as is now, but it is necessary to change a designation the following of instruments - 76-mm ATG and 76-mm RR. On how many I understand as them are meant F-22 and USV (F-22USV)
It is possible about ATG here In more detail- http://www.battlefield.ru/guns/index.html

Down D10-T this tank instrument, anti-tank referred to BS-3. While there is an information only in Russian - http://ww2.ee/army/ussr/arty/100_field_ ... info.shtml

The Ammunition were similar to instrument D10.Gun Boys can be not added, will suffice PTRD and PTRS) That you will tell about flame throwers ROKS and FOG??
About a snowmobile you can read through here- http://www.battlefield.ru/library/books ... rosan.html

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Unit 100mm ATG m44 had the incorrect gun but with same parameters.
Fixed.

76mm ATG had incorrect parameters. Fixed
Now, this gun is the F22 USV from October 1941.

Vehicle flamethrowers are different from infantry flamethrowers. Otherwise, all flamethrowers are identical in the game. Only the name is different.
To include specific named flame guns in Soviet OOB is therefore of little value.

I would like to include the ZIS-42 but to remove ATO-15 means no medium truck in years before 1932. Not a huge problem! But now I need information.
Is the ZIS-42 used in the same manner as the American halftrack, for infantry carriage, or is it for artillery haulage?
Also, I would need a lbm picture of the ZIS-42. Is this possible?

Similarly for STZ-5. Can somebody produce a LBM picture for this vehicle?

[Major Destruction]

If somebody can produce a LBM picture of the ZIS-42 lorry, I can place it in the OOB.

Is the lorry used in mechanized infantry companies or for hauling guns?

What is the start date, or when was it first used in service?

[Voriax]

Here's your pic [8D] Done quick & dirty so edit if you want. Change extension to .zip. If it doesn't open just drop me a line and I'll email it.

Voriax

[Maciste]

I've got some texts about hungarian units. ¿Whom should I send them? ¿How ti fix them permanently to a pic and create a new Hungarian OOB?

[Major Destruction]

Maciste,

If you can open the OB editor and select the Hungary OOB, you can view each unit.

Look for the text field in the OOB editor.
That is the name you need to use for your encyclopedia file.
If the text value is 0 no enc file is possible.

Hungarian pictures are found in the PIC directory as lbm files in the series 7400-7499
If you can open these pictures (I use irfanview) you can see the unit. The text file has the same number as the lbm file.

If you need help please pm me.

[BEER]

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[BEER]

2Major Destruction , I ask me to excuse for long silence, was in holiday and could not go on a forum! Photos ZIS-42 and STZ-5 I shall send you by mail! The truth they will be in a format jpg.

After changes in names AT-gun in Russian ООВ as the list will look??

Coming back to question SU-37!! Till 1943 arms of red army was SELF-PROPELLED GUNS considering ZIS-30! What for have included skilled machine SU-37 not clearly, now she wanders from one version of game in another (

ZIS-42 Was issued since spring 1942 for 1946. On arms was till 50 years. It was used as a vehicle and as the artillery tractor. ZIS-42 it was used as the tractor for 122-mm a howitzer and others easier instruments. The maximal speed on highway - 39,8 km/h, average speed on highway - 27,3, average speed on dry a glade - 19,6, average speed on dirty a glade - 31,1. Before occurrence ZIS-42 machines NATI-3 and GAS - 60 were issued, but they have not received wide application because of bad specifications.

STZ-5 Was issued since 1937. STZ was capable to overcome trenches depth up to 1 m and to force fords depth up to 0,8 m. With an artillery piece on the trailer it could move on highway with a speed up to 14 km/h, at movement on earth roads average speed made up to 10 km/h. In artillery parts they towed artillery systems in weight up to 3400 kg, including 76-mm shelfs and divisional downs, 122-mm and 152-mm of a howitzer, and also 76-mm (later and 85-mm) antiaircraft guns. Shortage in 1941 of more suitable vehicles of high passableness forced to mount on STZ-5 jet mortars BM-13.
In total it has been let out 9944 STZ-5, from them 6505 - after the beginning of war.

[Baneman]

Hi guys
I saw the request and as an avid WWII enthusiast, I'd love to help. I have more than a few sources to work from, so if you would like me to assist, please let me know. However, some direction would help - ie. what specific areas need looking into/updating/rewriting - I'm sure you don't need anyone reinventing the wheel. Unless, of course, the idea IS to reinvent the wheel - a better one.

Most of my sources concern Axis tanks, so that's my strength.

PS : Tried to email Major Destruction at the hotmail account given at the beginning of this thread - no joy - temp problem or email changed ?

Cheers[;)]

[BEER]

2Major Destruction
I have recollected that it would be desirable to see in ООВ the USSR. It is 107, 122 and 152-mm of a howitzer of a sample of 1910-30. These instruments could be used as artillery on a card and behind a card till 1942.

[Major Destruction]

I think the OOB's are closed for further editing now.
I managed to get the ZiS-42 included.
Our failure to replace the SU-37 was related to icon and lbm problems.

Howitzers can be inserted by scenario designers if the gun exists in the weapon list of any nation but in fact the game data for each 10/30 type is unlikely to differ from any other howitzer of the same calibre.

Your comments are valuable. The information you provide could be used in the Combat Leader OOB development.

[BEER]

Thanks, is good news!
I am very glad that at last that will appear in Russian OOB ZIS-42.
It was possible to add STZ-5 whether or not? What has been added OOB the USSR still?
Whether after a patch 8.3 will be still attempts to correct OOB and whether it will be possible to hope that further is removed SU-37?
I shall be always glad to help the information for improvement of game.