Which Ship.........(2)

[ctid98]

Was the only battleship to ever sink a submarine????

I believe it was accomplished by ramming....

[Nikademus]

HMS Dreadnought

[Tankerace]

And the Submarine was U-29. Sunk by ramming, 1915.

[Ron Saueracker]

You guys are FAST.[:D]

[Tankerace]

LOL.

Ironically enough, it was the WW2 U-29 that torpedoed and sank HMS Courageous in 1939.

[ctid98]

Not only were they fast, but their also good, I'll have to try harder next time......[:)]

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: ctid98

Not only were they fast, but their also good, I'll have to try harder next time......[:)]

Serious history geeks![:D] Gotta love naval history. And beer, of course.

[byron13]

Hey, hold on a sec. Is the Dreadnought a battleship or a dreadnought? I would argue that all of these answer are WRONG, and the answer is none.

[ctid98]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

ORIGINAL: ctid98

Not only were they fast, but their also good, I'll have to try harder next time......[:)]

Serious history geeks![:D] Gotta love naval history. And beer, of course.

And Pizza! [:D]

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: byron13

Hey, hold on a sec. Is the Dreadnought a battleship or a dreadnought? I would argue that all of these answer are WRONG, and the answer is none.

Cherry picker! [:D]

[Lex Talionis]

Could you not also argue the point for HMS Warspite in 1940:

The few glorious moments of battleships were born of desperation, both between the British and the Germans and between the United States and Japan.

None was so glorious, or successful, as the action of the Warspite on 13 April 1940 -- the Second Battle of Narvik. The Germans had landed at Narvik with transports and ten heavy destroyers. In the First Battle of Narvik, Captain Warburton-Lee led a destroyer flotilla in and sank two destroyers, with the loss of two and his own life. To clean out the others, the Warspite, battlescarred veteran of Jutland (and which would triumph in the Mediterranean at Matapan, 29 March 1941), was sent up the fjord (which I find cited as the Vestfjord or Ofotfjord) with nine destroyers under Admiral Whitworth. This is something that would have seemed inconceivable folly in World War I. It was the only time in either World War that a battleship was deliberately used against destroyers. In the narrow confines of a Norwegian fjord, with submarines about, it would almost have seemed like a suicide mission. Nevertheless, the Germans, even a German U-boat, were all sunk. This is an action little noted since, but there was never anything else quite like it.
http://www.friesian.com/dreadnot.htm

Warspite saw extensive action throughout the Second World War. In the Second Battle of Narvik on 13 April 1940 her reconnaissance aircraft bombed and sank submarine U-64 before the battleship and nine escorting destroyers swiftly overwhelmed eight German destroyers.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/3515.html

Whilst the Warspite's seaplane may have sunk the U-64, Warspite herself would have gained the credit. I think you need to be more precise with the wording of your question.[:D]

[ctid98]

ORIGINAL: Lex Talionis

Could you not also argue the point for HMS Warspite in 1940:

The few glorious moments of battleships were born of desperation, both between the British and the Germans and between the United States and Japan.

None was so glorious, or successful, as the action of the Warspite on 13 April 1940 -- the Second Battle of Narvik. The Germans had landed at Narvik with transports and ten heavy destroyers. In the First Battle of Narvik, Captain Warburton-Lee led a destroyer flotilla in and sank two destroyers, with the loss of two and his own life. To clean out the others, the Warspite, battlescarred veteran of Jutland (and which would triumph in the Mediterranean at Matapan, 29 March 1941), was sent up the fjord (which I find cited as the Vestfjord or Ofotfjord) with nine destroyers under Admiral Whitworth. This is something that would have seemed inconceivable folly in World War I. It was the only time in either World War that a battleship was deliberately used against destroyers. In the narrow confines of a Norwegian fjord, with submarines about, it would almost have seemed like a suicide mission. Nevertheless, the Germans, even a German U-boat, were all sunk. This is an action little noted since, but there was never anything else quite like it.
http://www.friesian.com/dreadnot.htm

Warspite saw extensive action throughout the Second World War. In the Second Battle of Narvik on 13 April 1940 her reconnaissance aircraft bombed and sank submarine U-64 before the battleship and nine escorting destroyers swiftly overwhelmed eight German destroyers.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/3515.html

Whilst the Warspite's seaplane may have sunk the U-64, Warspite herself would have gained the credit. I think you need to be more precise with the wording of your question.[:D]

Now you're getting REAL picky!!! [:D]

Interesting though.....

[Nikademus]

nope, only a battleship with a dented bow qualifies. sorry.

-HMS Dreadnought appreciation society [:'(]

[PeteG662]

In the military we called that type person a "Springbutt" cause they always used to jump out of their seat and argue with the professors! LOL

[Lex Talionis]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

nope, only a battleship with a dented bow qualifies. sorry.

-HMS Dreadnought appreciation society [:'(]

Spoilsport[:(]

[Ron Saueracker]

Who was Warspite's Capt during this Second Battle of Narvik? Very much a WITP question. What assignment did he blow chunks while serving in Pacific (most notable gaff)?

[Lex Talionis]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Who was Warspite's Capt during this Second Battle of Narvik? Very much a WITP question. What assignment did he blow chunks while serving in Pacific (most notable gaff)?

The outbreak of World War II found Warspite at Alexandria, Egypt. After escorting a Canadian troop convoy across the Atlantic, she flew Vice Admiral Jock Whitworth's flag at the battles for Narvik, on April 10-13, 1940. Redeployed to the Mediterranean, she flew the flag of Admiral Andrew Browne Cunningham, revered as the Royal Navy's most aggressive admiral and known affectionately as "ABC." At the Battle of Cape Matapan, on March 28-29, 1941, Warspite helped sink the Italian cruiser Fiume, but she was herself damaged by German fighter-bombers during the evacuation of Crete on May 22. Under her own power she sailed via Singapore and Pearl Harbor to Bremerton, Washington, for repairs. By September 1943 she was back in the Mediterranean in support of the Allied landings at Salerno, Italy. There, radio-controlled bombs blew out her bottom. Again the aptly named Warspite made it home for repairs. Reassigned to the Home Fleet in 1944, she was mined just after the Normandy invasion in June, but returned to the coast of France by August. With fourteen battle honors to her credit, HMS Warspite was sold out of the Navy in 1946; but on April 23, 1947, she defiantly went aground in Mounts Bay, Cornwall, while en route to the breakers.

http://college.hmco.com/history/readers ... rspite.htm

Thats a tough one, because she was the Admirals Flagship and flew the flags listed above. Whether the Admirals above became her captains I don't know?[&:]

[Lex Talionis]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Who was Warspite's Capt during this Second Battle of Narvik? Very much a WITP question. What assignment did he blow chunks while serving in Pacific (most notable gaff)?

New Ally, New Enemy
Later that month, Warspite departed Alexandria, and began her journey to the USA where she would be repaired at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, Bremerton. Repairs and modifications there began in August, which included the replacement of her worn out 15-in guns for new ones, and which ended in late December. By then, Warspite was now in a country that had entered the war on the Allies side earlier that month, after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbour by the Jpaanese. After working-up around the coast of North America, Warspite departed the area to join the fight in the Indian Ocean.

In January 1942, Warspite joined the Eastern Fleet, becoming the flagship of Admiral Sir James Somerville, who had, in 1927, commanded the Warspite in far more peaceful times than his return to the old majestic battleship in 1942. As part of the Eastern Fleet, Warspite was based in Ceylon, and was part of the fast group of the Fleet, which also included the two carriers Formidable and Indomitable, while four slow Revenge-class battleships, and the old carrier Hermes, were included in the slower group.

Somerville soon decided to relocated his Fleet for its own protection. He chose the Addu Atoll, part of the Maldives, to be his new base. Despite the threat of Japanese attack, Somerville had sent two heavy cruisers, the Cornwall and Dorsetshire and the carrier Hermes back to Ceylon. In early April, two Japanese naval forces entered the Indian Ocean. One was led by a light fleet carrier, the Ryujo and included six cruisers, while the second group included five carriers which had launched the surprise attack on Pearl Harbour, and four battleships. They were deployed to the Indian Ocean to search for Somerville's Eastern Fleet, at that time, the only significant Allied naval presence in the area. The first sighting of the Japanese occurred on the 4th April, and orders were soon given for the two detached cruisers to return to the Fleet. The Fast Group, including Warspite, set sail from their secret base with the objective of launching a strike against the Japanese forces within the next few days. All three ships that had been detached from the Fleet, the Cornwall, Dorsetshire and Hermes, were eventually sunk by Japanese forces with the loss of many lifes. An attack on the Japanese forces by Somerville's Fleet never occurred, and the Japanese soon left the region altogether, after failing to find and destroy the Eastern Fleet. The rest of Warspite's time in this theatre was largely uneventful, with only limited naval operations by the Royal Navy occurring in that theatre. Warspite departed the area in 1943, heading once more for the Mediterranean

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.c ... 0continued

Admiral Sir James Somerville. I take it this is the gaff you mean??

[sprior]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Who was Warspite's Capt during this Second Battle of Narvik? Very much a WITP question. What assignment did he blow chunks while serving in Pacific (most notable gaff)?

Captain Victor A. C. Crutchley
Battle of Savo Island

[sprior]

ORIGINAL: sprior

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Who was Warspite's Capt during this Second Battle of Narvik? Very much a WITP question. What assignment did he blow chunks while serving in Pacific (most notable gaff)?

Captain Victor A. C. Crutchley
Battle of Savo Island

And here's the recpmmend for his VC:

On 9/10 May 1918 at Ostend, Belgium, Lieutenant Crutchley took command of HMS Vindictive when the commanding officer had been killed and the second in command seriously wounded. He displayed great gallantry and seamanship both in Vindictive and M.L. 254 which rescued the crew after the former vessel had been sunk between the piers of Ostend harbour. He also took command of M.L. 254 when the commanding officer of that vessel had collapsed from his wounds. M.L. 254 was full of wounded and in a sinking condition, but Lieutenant Crxtchley kept her afloat until HMS Warwick came to the rescue