kamikaze

izhidov · Post by **izhidov** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:15 pm

Would it be possible to add kamikaze units?

Though they were most effective against naval targets and I don't know exact history on their use over land, it could be done so shouldn't be discounted.

JA: Regular units
GE: Me-109/FW-190 on top of HE-111
SU: under some circumstance(damaged plane)

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:37 pm

Well, there is the 'Banzai' that can occur during a melee involving JA infantry units; they attack the attacking enemy unit. And there's also the suicide infantry AT unit.

toundra · Post by **toundra** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:38 pm

They were only effective against naval units, and big targets only.
If you must die for a cause try to sink a carrier and not a Barge. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:44 pm

Originally posted by tracer:
And there's also the suicide infantry AT unit.

What unit/s are you referring to, exactly? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

toundra · Post by **toundra** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:49 pm

Mine throw their demolition charge and then
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN AWAY =)

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:54 pm

Originally posted by Toundra:
Mine throw their demolition charge and then
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN AWAY =)

lol <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
Well, I prefer to use anti-tank rifles and bazookas. One better keeps one's distance, or however the saying goes. Unless there is forest, of course.

izhidov · Post by **izhidov** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:55 pm

Originally posted by Christopher:

What unit/s are you referring to, exactly? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Yea I've seen those. Quite bad for the tanks.

toundra · Post by **toundra** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:57 pm

Originally posted by Christopher:

lol <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
Well, I prefer to use anti-tank rifles and bazookas. One better keeps one's distance, or however the saying goes. Unless there is forest, of course.

this is why they are suicide squads hehe <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

izhidov · Post by **izhidov** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:58 pm

Originally posted by Toundra:
They were only effective against naval units, and big targets only.
If you must die for a cause try to sink a carrier and not a Barge. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Germans used the FW-190 - He-111 combo against non-naval targets. Even if that combo isn't technically a 'kamikaze', I'm sure flying those things would be pretty close coz the fighter really set on top of a big bomb.

toundra · Post by **toundra** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:59 pm

By the way they just need to train 2 skills
Throwing
Praying
....
Running...

nm 3 Skills!

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:00 pm

Originally posted by Toundra:

this is why they are suicide squads hehe <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Tell my pioneers! They'd refuse to fight for me, immediately! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

toundra · Post by **toundra** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:03 pm

Originally posted by no_time_2_play:

Germans used the FW-190 - He-111 combo against non-naval targets. Even if that combo isn't technically a 'kamikaze', I'm sure flying those things would be pretty close coz the fighter really set on top of a big bomb.

hmm FW-190 - He-111

Really? how? =)

toundra · Post by **toundra** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:04 pm

Originally posted by Christopher:

Tell my pioneers! They'd refuse to fight for me, immediately! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Bah you are a real evil German <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

JK

izhidov · Post by **izhidov** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:23 pm

Originally posted by Toundra:

hmm FW-190 - He-111

Really? how? =)

here you go

correction: Add Me-109 to it too

izhidov · Post by **izhidov** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:25 pm

bad url fixed

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:32 pm

Originally posted by Toundra:

Bah you are a real evil German <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

JK

Jawollja! Always doing my best. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
So, are there any real kamikaze units who blow themselves up, taking everything in the same hex with them? Ammo-depot-like?

toundra · Post by **toundra** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:40 pm

Originally posted by no_time_2_play:
bad url fixed

Oh! i am shocked!

A BF109 mating with a HE111 !!!

Haaaaaaa the secret of the Germans Factories =)

panda124c · Post by **panda124c** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 10:56 pm

Russian Dogs <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Here pooch fetch that Mk IV. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

AbsntMndedProf · Post by **AbsntMndedProf** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:14 pm

Toundra posted:

hmm FW-190 - He-111

Really? how? =)

As I understand it, the FW sat on top of the HE-111, which was packed full of explosives. The pilot of the FW would 'fly' the combination craft until he got in range of his target, then he would release his HE-111 payload and guide it by remote control into the target.

(Btw: Joseph Kennedy Jr. died in a flight test of a simmilar arangement using outdated an outdated allied bomber as the guided missile.)

Eric Maietta

Jacc · Post by **Jacc** » Thu Jan 10, 2002 3:27 am

You can add Ju-88 and even Ju-188 (!) in the "combomb" list. For some reasen yet not clear to me, the germans sacrificed Ju-88s and Fw-190s for such a foolish attempts. Well, they had Komet also... it was good only as long it had some fuel left (~5 minutes).

If we want to discuss over ducks and monstrocities of World War II (like all the failed projects), we should make a new forum. Even AchtungPanzer!.com is not enough to handle such a large amount of fooliness.

And... Japanese suicide units were practically useless - why do have all theinfantry covering the tanks? And if the infantry is killed, then why not to use your own against the tank? Since the kamikaze TDs did not have ranged weapons (okay, they threw their mines), like Panzerfaust and Bazooka, they did not fit the similar role.