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???

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a ship
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This is a ship BEFORE the patch. I can tell because it is smoking [:D]
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lmao
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But it doesn't inhale [:'(]
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The Engineering Officer better not while walking by the Captain in the Wardroom - that much smoke would get the attention of a blind man in a closet. Methinks from the rather strange looking turrets, if they are turrets, and the smoke it is a very early USN BB - but then again, I am usually wrong. Maybe is the USS Skeered o'Nothin.

I'll just throw out a Class - New York, for starters.
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IJN BB (Fuso/Ise class?) before their modernization.
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Did they have tripod masts? [Scratches head, pulls beard, shrugs shoulders - books are still buried under theology books - oh well]
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HMS Hood.
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Yes they did, before moderniztion. They looked very "British", whom the IJN modeled itself after.
Modernizing included reboilering to burn oil, (that's why the pictured ship is smoking so much), addition of anti-torpedo bulges, minor addition to deck armor, and the "pagoda" superstructures, all for the loss of a knot or two...
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http://www.military.cz/ww2_ships/Japan/BB/Fuso/fuso.htm
Notice the pre-modernization tripods.
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WWI BB or BC, judging by the twin turrets and tripod NOT a US BB (US WWI BBs had cage masts until 1927). Judging by the spotting top, either a British designed or influenced ship. Im going to say either a Fuso or Ise, basically because the spotting top is seperated, and forward superstructure is to sparse to be a British ship, or a Kongo. Just my guess.
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same ship, different view:

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Nope, don't think its Hood. Lookee picture, dated 1924.
http://www.waffenhq.de/schiffe/hood.htm
Notice difference in spotting top.
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wierd...

HMS Tiger class CB?
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another picture:

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Kongo class, in the early 1920's. Only way to tell which one is someone with one of the reference books specifically for that class or ship. It's very likely the Kongo because of the turrets I think.
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Kongo class can be ruled out, had a slot aft of rear mast, not like in picture 2
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Ise class can be ruled out too, different midship section, pic 3 seems to be looking towards stern (Nagato class can be ruled out too)
For a short moment I thought you fooled all of us cause something remembered me of a french BB (Provence class, but she doesn´t fit either)
Atm I vote for Fuso class (Fuso between 1918 and 1932 or Yamashiro between 1918 and 1922)
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I still think its either the Fuso or Yamashiro in the early twenties.

Picture #1 is from the bow looking aft.

Picture #2 is from the stern looking forward (hence small spotting top is closest to the camera). In picture #2, the ship is not underway, so no smoke.

Picture #3 is taken from the forward funnel looking aft, with the number 3 turret (counting from the bow) out of frame below, and the backside of turret 4 just behind the second smokestack. Note the deckhouse aft of the turret in view. Also note the main deck
level ending just aft of that deckhouse.

I dont think its a Kongo, because the Kongo types did not have a deckhouse aft of the third turret (just a large open main deck area):
http://www.military.cz/ww2_ships/Japan/ ... /kongo.htm

I dont think its an Ise/Hyuga, because turrets number 3 and four are too close together, and you should see them in picture # 3. Also, the main deck level of the Ise ends just at the barbette of turret number three:
http://www.military.cz/ww2_ships/Japan/BB/Ise/ise.htm

I dont think its a Mutsu/Nagato, because they had only four twin turrets (two forward, two aft, no obstructions to their field of fire), and the main deck level ending at turret number three:
http://www.military.cz/ww2_ships/Japan/ ... /mutsu.htm

British ships had larger spotting tops than can be seen in picture #1, and slightly larger bridge are superstructures:

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Janes_1919/ ... in_52.html

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