USS Ranger

[Tiornu]

The perceived need for carriers was so great that Wasp continued operating even after a turbine casualty. Does anyone know how fast she was going when she was hit? I could be wrong, but I don't think she could do better than 25 knots.

[Admiral DadMan]

ORIGINAL: Tiornu

The perceived need for carriers was so great that Wasp continued operating even after a turbine casualty. Does anyone know how fast she was going when she was hit? I could be wrong, but I don't think she could do better than 25 knots.

The turbine failure happened in July 42, and was fully repaired within 4 days. She was sunk by the sub in September

[esteban]

As I recall, the Ranger also suffered from poor compartmentalization. She had too many large compartments, and it was felt that flooding in more than one compartment would doom the ship.

[Tiornu]

Wasp's engine woes were rather more serious than could be remedied in four days. I don't have Lundstrom at hand. If someone has First Team/Guadalcanal, I'm told there may be a mention of this on page 20.

[bstarr]

Wasp was also not going to be used in POA for the same reasons. After losing Yorktown at Midway, USN really had no choice but to bring Wasp over.

case and point. If the need had been there, Ranger would have been sent to the Pacific. She really wasn't that good of a carrier, so thank God there never was the need.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Tiornu

Wasp's engine woes were rather more serious than could be remedied in four days. I don't have Lundstrom at hand. If someone has First Team/Guadalcanal, I'm told there may be a mention of this on page 20.

The ships engineering section overhauled the ailing assemby in four days while at sea according to Lundstrom. The engineers recommended a complete overhaul the next time she was on the West Coast, but as we all know, she never got that overhaul.

[GBirkn]

ORIGINAL: bstarr

Wasp was also not going to be used in POA for the same reasons. After losing Yorktown at Midway, USN really had no choice but to bring Wasp over.

case and point. If the need had been there, Ranger would have been sent to the Pacific. She really wasn't that good of a carrier, so thank God there never was the need.

And at one point the need was so great that the USN borrowed HMS Victorious (aka USS Robin), but didn't move Ranger to the Pacific.

http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ships/Victorious.html

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: GBirkn

ORIGINAL: bstarr

Wasp was also not going to be used in POA for the same reasons. After losing Yorktown at Midway, USN really had no choice but to bring Wasp over.

case and point. If the need had been there, Ranger would have been sent to the Pacific. She really wasn't that good of a carrier, so thank God there never was the need.

And at one point the need was so great that the USN borrowed HMS Victorious (aka USS Robin), but didn't move Ranger to the Pacific.

http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ships/Victorious.html

I've never been able to hold back a chuckle every time I see Victorious named Robin. What a contrast. The Royal Navy is VICTORIOUS...the USN is as intimidating as a ROBIN! "In football, ya get a touchdown...inbaseball, you go haome!" What a weenie name/codename.[8|]

[Tiornu]

Is there any possibility that Sara's code name then was Batman?

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Tiornu

Is there any possibility that Sara's code name then was Batman?

That's funny but I think the Batman character was concieved after WW2, wasn't it?

[Tiornu]

Batman first appeared in print in 1939. Robin followed a year later.

[Tankerace]

Nope, 1939.

[Tankerace]

Gah, I'm too slow. Well, I'm gonna go watch Alexander de Seversky's "Victory Through Airpower"

[Ron Saueracker]

I've got a first edition (only?) of his book by the same name! It's a documentary or movie?

[Tankerace]

Its a movie. It was made in '43, and with film and disney animation, shows the development of flight to Pearl Harbor. And then it shows how they "thought" the war would be won, by gaining bases in China and Korea, and then bombing Tokyo. Plus, he told of the necessity to get Okinawa and Iwo Jima as fighter bases. Not 100% the way it happened, but for 1943 a damned good guess.

Plus, its narrated by him, and is really good, IMO. Its like 30-40 minutes long if I remember right.

[Tankerace]

The movie does have some humor parts. In one scene during WWI, you see a german (with a picklehaube[;)]) in a Fokker Eindecker DIII. Its talking about interupter gear (or lack of), and you see him hunched over his gun (in a disney cartoon fashion), and he shoots off his propellor. Then he cries as his plane goes down.

Another one about WWI before planes were armed. You see a German and a British scout pass each other. The German waves, and then the British pilot waves, grabs a brick, and throws it at him. Then the German throws the brick back [:D]

The movie is a mix of humor, lecture, and thrilling animation. If even has a clip of General Billy Mitchell. The idea was for the movie to be a port of the book. It is rumoured that it was because Winston CHurchill MADE FDR watch it, that the US committed to daylight strategic bombing. Don't know if thats true, but its interesting.