Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections?

[ElvisDaKing]

ORIGINAL: Tophat

Yes but,canadians and frenchmen speak french.......enough said.[;)]


Finnish the flippin patch so we can drop this before war breaksout!

Is it too early to ask whats in 1.4?

Finnish ? What the hell have they done again ?[:D]

[Murky71]

I am a pro American Canadian, I have no use for typical European leftist ideas

well, madmickey...
Could you share some of those ideas with me? Being European I'm very interested to hear them.

[Clipper1968]

ORIGINAL: ElvisDaKing

Finnish ? What the hell have they done again ?[:D]

Is this supposed to be humoristic?[&:]Hehehe...[:D]

[Tophat]

The world has ended Elvis is now a french speaker!

Yes,rumor has it that the "Finnish"plan to lure our intrepid matrix developers,currently drunk in germany,north for a month of fun and games in the snow.

On a personal sidenote since you french types made so much cash from the U.N sponsored "Oil for food program",how about writing a big fat check out to matrix and spreading the wealth?

ooops.......that was a rather cheap dig.

[Clipper1968]

ORIGINAL: Tophat

The world has ended Elvis is now a french speaker!

I like Elvis even if he didn't speak french...[:D]

On a personal sidenote since you french types made so much cash from the U.N sponsored "Oil for food program",how about writing a big fat check out to matrix and spreading the wealth?

ooops.......that was a rather cheap dig.

Honestly I think I have spent enough FF and € buying almost every Matrix games since the beginning...[;)]
A big check would be useless at least for me...[:D]but I will personally suggest this proposal...[:D]

[Williamb]

Can the patch accurately portrait the Canadien military ?

Their helos dont fly their planes are 30 years old their subs catch fire and their army is less equipted than the average UN peacekeeper force.

(wil add thats TODAYS Canadien Military. In WWII the Canadiens were amoung the best troops in all the commonwealth military)

[Tankerace]

Boy have you been brainwashed by Bush's spin doctors....... Ever been taught to use your own brain? I've never seen such a poor piece of propaganda.

Ok forranger, I repect your left-wing liberal views, although I do not agree with them. However, I could just as easily say you have been brainwashed by Kerry's spin doctors. If, IF we venture in to political discussion, I would prefer that you do not make insults at me directly. Ok, you got it? I have outlined my views, and why I won't vote for Kerry, and will vote for Bush. Not once did I accuse any of you Kerry supporters of not having a brain of your own, and I would ask that you do the same for me. Understand?

Also, on the same topic - Why is it when you dabble in our elections (I assume you are from Switzerland, as your profile indicates), what you see presented to you by a generally Liberal American media (80% of the US Media is Liberal) are considered facts, yet but when I present facts from both those Liberal outlets and some Conservative outlets, and I myself am generally pro-Bush, that is considered "Propaganda"? If you consider the following things:

1) You don't live in America
2) Most American news is Liberal
3) Europe is composed mainly of Anto-American sentimism(sp)

Then, wouldn't that make your beliefs based on "propaganda", moreso than mine? I live in America, and I see much of the stuff Bush has done first hand, you don't. Your information is based on what people tell you, and what they (again, the Liberalist media) want you to believe. I ask you, when you think of that, which one of us is more likely to be brainwashed? But, unlike the Liberals, I am simply going to respect (although not agree) with your views.

One thing of your posts, after your inability to refute my arguments supporting Bush and your continual insults on me personally, is that you have not said one thing on Kerry. Your entire thing with regards to this discussion is soley based on a "get Bush out of office" type of thing, but not supporting one candidate or another.

If you hate conservatives that much, all I can say is in YOUR next election (not ours), vote Liberal to your hearts content. But here in America, we have to examine each candidate, and determine who would be the best qualified. I admit, Bush is far from my first pick for President (That would be John McCain, but he isn't running), but he is far better than Kerry (with a bad 20 year record) and Ralph Nader.

Now, off to work on the Plan Orange mod!

[Tankerace]

Thank's hithere. I am glad at least one person on this forum realizes that I was trying to just present facts as to why I will vote Bush, not insults, attacks, or anything of the like on those who will vote Kerry.

ORIGINAL: MadmanRick

Probably not. But I can't let an attack on Bush without support go by. now..

Your zenophobia and right-wing manifesto have NO place in this forum, in support of your crusader or not. Refrain from espousing your brand of Fox News inspired history, for the good of us all? This is a forum for War In The Pacific, if you need an outlet for your anger/hate/ignorance, a google search for O'Reilly/Coulter/Limbaugh will lead you to the promised land. Thank you,

Rick

So, let me get this straight. If someone on the forums attack Bush's policy, or support Kerry, that is ok and has a slight "place" on this forum. But if I make a post supporting Bush, or rather to reinforce what I said why "I am" voting Bush, not "Why YOU should", that is anger/hater/ignorance that has NO place on the forums? I just post some facts that have made me decide to vote the way I want to, and that is ignorant. Yet you make an attack on me, have no issues or facts of your own, and we are supposed to assume that you are all-knowing? If people can post stuff in regards to supporting Kerry, then I am freely able to post stuff supporting Bush. This isn't a DNC forum.

FYI, my sources are 1 (count em, 1 from Fox News) and the rest are from Liberal media outlets, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and the New York Times. Some "right-wing manifesto".

However, I digress, let us get back on to wargaming. My battleships are tired of lying at their moorings, they want something to happen.

[kaleun]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

Thank's hithere. I am glad at least one person on this forum realizes that I was trying to just present facts, not insults or attacks.

Agree, the same amount of respect should be given for both sides.[:-]

[testarossa]

ORIGINAL: Tophat

Yes but,canadians and frenchmen speak french.......enough said.[;)]

Canadians don't speak french. Quebecois speak some variant of country french.

[testarossa]

ORIGINAL: Murky71

I am a pro American Canadian, I have no use for typical European leftist ideas

well, madmickey...
Could you share some of those ideas with me? Being European I'm very interested to hear them.

We do have use of some leftist ideas -LEGALIZE POT!!!

[testarossa]

ORIGINAL: William Amos

Can the patch accurately portrait the Canadien military ?

Their helos dont fly their planes are 30 years old their subs catch fire and their army is less equipted than the average UN peacekeeper force.

(wil add thats TODAYS Canadien Military. In WWII the Canadiens were amoung the best troops in all the commonwealth military)

Training of regular trooper from RCR and PPLI is equal to US Army Rangers. The problem is those are the only two regiments in whole country.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: ElvisDaKing

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

very true. Lets get back to a safer topic.

Canadians.

Evil Canadians.......

[:'(]

Vive le Quebec Libre !!! [:D]

I'd like to see them leave, that way we could get our politicians to stop throwing money at them with bilingualism, cutural grants, sponsorship programs, transfer payments etc. Our country is just so full of fops, milk duds, wankers, the spineless....this will never happen. Canada is screwed.[8|]

[testarossa]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I'd like to see them leave, that way we could get our politicians to stop throwing money at them with bilingualism, cutural grants, sponsorship programs, transfer payments etc. Our country is just so full of fops, milk duds, wankers, the spineless....this will never happen. Canada is screwed.[8|]

Yep. If they allowed us to vote in 1995, they would've had their own country already.

[Tophat]

Hmmmn,so with bilingualism do you boys all speak french or not?

Is that patch out yet? This threads gonna go to violence at anytime now.

I much prefer the australian second language.........BEER.

[Tankerace]

Beer? Really? Man, I'm moving to Australia!

[forranger]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace
.... what you see presented to you by a generally Liberal American media (80% of the US Media is Liberal)....

Some infos on my background: Studied history at University, 10 years professional experience as a news editor. Now don't try to tell me how evaluation and interpretation of presented information works, ok? I had access to infos much deeper than generally is presented on screen, via radio or in the press, and learned how to read between the lines and not to overlook infos taken out of context or censored. Regular scans of US media with international outreach (trash doesn't leave local or regional boundaries.......) tell a different picture of the ratio of liberal American media, and your 80% is a ridiculous ratio (in reality things look rather reversed). But I guess all that's not shining brightly on the conservative agenda and brings up uncomfortable questions will be denounced as being liberal.....

Just one question in this context: Why is footage on returning coffins and badly injured soldiers from Iraq systematically suppressed? I know of no other example of such willing (self-)censorship in another free country. Is this a liberal attitude or does it benefit conservatives guessing that their reasons for this war were too weak for the public to support this mounting casualty list?

ORIGINAL: Tankerace
... Europe is composed mainly of Anto-American sentimism

I for myself - believe it or not - am a big fan of the US of A, historical achievements, the American way of life. I'd even say most of the Europeans are. What is not realized by Americans is that over here most observers clearly divide between the American folks on the streets and their government. I'd sit together anytime with American tourists and have a good time. But it's hard to understand how blindly you follow your leadership, even more so since the circumstances how Bush became president were disgusting. In Europe we had some utter bad experiences with leaders with absolute power, therefore it's hard to take for example how easy you can forgive to be lead into war with weak if not plain false reasons given.

So my question to you: How do you cope with the fact that the arsenal of weapons of mass distruction in Iraq has turned out to be non-existent? And do you still believe that there was a link between Saddam and Al Qaida and 9/11? Are you happy with how things turned out in Iraq after the military victory? Do you really think this has lead to more sympathy towards the US in the potential pool of terrorists? If not, how can you still support Bush with his war on terror strategy?

By the way: I'd never say Kerry is an ideal choice, but there's no other choice in my eyes to avoid the certainty of even more porcellain broken during a second Bush presidency.

[von Murrin]

I want an election patch! Any word on when Credible Third Party will be added?[:D]

forranger, I've got a slightly different take on things you might find interesting. Check your PM inbox in roughly 15 hours, or on Friday if you don't stay up that late.[:)]

[forranger]

ORIGINAL: von Murrin

I want an election patch! Any word on when Credible Third Party will be added?[:D]

forranger, I've got a slightly different take on things you might find interesting. Check your PM inbox in roughly 15 hours, or on Friday if you don't stay up that late.[:)]

Is gonna be a bit late for me as it's not on a weekend.

Anyway I'm kind of tired of this debate. Nobody is gonna convince anyone around here I guess, and I'd rather use my time here for WitP issues.

As for the election patch: I'd go for a humanity patch making parties unnecessary. Everybody trying to solve global problems with common sense and responding to other peoples needs instead of partisan thinking and darwinistic behaviour. Utopian wishes, but nice vision anyway, no?

[von Murrin]

I'll take a vision over the Texas National Guard, Vietnam, or claims of who did what to whom for God knows what reason any day.[:)]

I didn't intend to start or continue any debate. It's simply a case of offering you something to consider, no posturing, rhetoric, or invective included, nor reply needed. I'll type it out anyway and send it, and you can read or delete, reply or not, at your leisure.[:)]