Anyone ever thought of being a History Teacher?

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another question for Belce?

Were you referring to Fritz Haber's wife committing suicide on the night after the gas attack? As I understand it he was a prime mover in getting the German General Staff to try out chemical warfare. Ironic that he got a Nobel prize in 1919 for another of his "discoveries" - the Haber Process whereby atmospheric Nitrogen and Hydrogen are economically combined to form ammonia thereby providing Germany with an industrial process by which they might obtain nitrates; without which their entire munitions industry would have collapsed in 1915 for lack of a critical ingredient in explosives (the British blockade cut off access to the natural sources (bird poop on Pacific Islands).
Of course he didn't get the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for extending the Great War by 3 years but rather because his discovery allowed for a massive increase in the ability to produce fertilizer for agriculture as well.
Again ironic that when Germany committed their entire nitrate production to munitions in 1916 they practically guaranteed a miserable harvest in 1917 which led to starvation in 1918 and the armistice.

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: RevRick

ORIGINAL: RUPD3658
The one thing I will make all of my students do is read 1984 and Starship Troopers. 1984 shows how history can be rewritten and Starship Troopers is a great explaination of why we fight.

The one thing I will make all of my students do is read 1984 and Starship Troopers. 1984 shows how history can be rewritten and Starship Troopers is a great explaination of why we fight.

Throw in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" for a good dose of why we fight - and you might be the crustiest History teacher I would go a long way to listen to and argue with. To bad they did such an egregious excremental job with the movie "Starship Troopers."

The movie had nudity and explosions so it automatically gets 2 stars. Aside from that it was a waste of time and celluloid.

I will have to check out the book you recommend. Perhaps I can finish it while I wait for the patch to download via dial up. [:@]

[UncleBuck]

RUPD, the book for Starship troopers is far different from the movie. I was almost disgusted enough to walk out of the movie. The Book is not nearly the Authoritarian model the movie puts forth.

I have thought of being a History teacher since I was 8 or 9 years old. I went to college to major in History and environmental sciences (Geology and Oceanography) but ran out of money. I joined the USN and then got out in 1996. I haven't been back to school yet but I keep meaning to. I would love to teach, and I do tell good stories. I do not think I could handle to pay cut, nor the nearly work for free issue for an intern. The politics and such also drive me nuts. But, I keep coming back to it, and many of my Teacher friends think I would be good at it.


Also take a look at my Sig line as for my feelings on Heinlien eh tovarich?

UB

TANSTAAFL!

[rhondabrwn]

Getting back on topic....

Try this site:

http://www.rnt.org/channels/clearinghouse/

This is an organization dedicated to recruiting new teachers. They have an excellent guidebook called "Take This Job and Love It" that can be ordered from their web site. I saw a bit about them on television about four years ago ordered their guide. I went back to school and got my teaching license from Indiana University and am now back and working on my Master's Degree in Secondary Education. Then I intend to head west and work with the Navajo Nation schools. I just turned 57 and had a successful career in business and later software development. Teaching beats the hell out of anything I've done before in my life.

Don't get into it for the money though - get into it because you want to make a positive impact on lives.

If you are serious about making a mid-life career change to teaching, this is the place to start.

Hope this helps.

[Synjin]

ORIGINAL: RUPD3658

The one thing I will make all of my students do is read 1984 and Starship Troopers. 1984 shows how history can be rewritten and Starship Troopers is a great explaination of why we fight.

My Justice and Law professor made us watch Robocop for an example of a privatized police force. What a great class...

[Belce]

Yes his wife

http://www.fofweb.com/Subscription/Science/Helicon.asp?SID=2&iPin=azchem0052

Clara Immerwahr married him in 1901.

Haber ran into trouble with the Nazi's in the 30's because of the hiring of jews prohibition and was himself a Jew.

[Zorfwaddle]

Thanks for the link. Im a Russian instructor at the Defense Language Institute and am retiring from the Navy shortly. Im looking into troops to teachers and now this. Im getting a degree in Biz Admin/Info Systems.

George

[Hornblower]

I would do it in a moment. I was a history minor- phi alpa theta honor society- but job market being what it was, i took a job in the - and i am sorry to curse here- the telecommunications industry. i would love to go back to a job that allowed me to make use of all the readings i did as a little hornblower. and do do something far more important to what i am doing now. namely the passing of knowledge from our/my generation to the next.

[Mynok]

Not to hijack this thread, because I'm firmly convinced that ignorance of history is the single greatest cause of asshole-ness in the world........

But....

without which their entire munitions industry would have collapsed in 1915 for lack of a critical ingredient in explosives (the British blockade cut off access to the natural sources (bird poop on Pacific Islands).

Is this where "shooting the $hit" comes from? [:D]

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: RevRick

ORIGINAL: RUPD3658
The one thing I will make all of my students do is read 1984 and Starship Troopers. 1984 shows how history can be rewritten and Starship Troopers is a great explaination of why we fight.

The one thing I will make all of my students do is read 1984 and Starship Troopers. 1984 shows how history can be rewritten and Starship Troopers is a great explaination of why we fight.

Throw in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" for a good dose of why we fight - and you might be the crustiest History teacher I would go a long way to listen to and argue with. To bad they did such an egregious excremental job with the movie "Starship Troopers."

Finally got a chance to read the book and loved it. I will definitly add it to my students' required reading list if I ever teach.

Being a State employee I loved the bit about the guy polishing the brass cannon. I have met many people with similar jobs.

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: UncleBuck

RUPD, the book for Starship troopers is far different from the movie. I was almost disgusted enough to walk out of the movie. The Book is not nearly the Authoritarian model the movie puts forth.

I have thought of being a History teacher since I was 8 or 9 years old. I went to college to major in History and environmental sciences (Geology and Oceanography) but ran out of money. I joined the USN and then got out in 1996. I haven't been back to school yet but I keep meaning to. I would love to teach, and I do tell good stories. I do not think I could handle to pay cut, nor the nearly work for free issue for an intern. The politics and such also drive me nuts. But, I keep coming back to it, and many of my Teacher friends think I would be good at it.


Also take a look at my Sig line as for my feelings on Heinlien eh tovarich?

UB

TANSTAAFL!

Now I get the quote! Was just on the Netflix website and saw that they made a Starship Troopers 2. I guess the review will read "Hit rock bottom and just kept on digging"

There is also an animated series based on the book entitled "Roughnecks". It got better reviews so I may add it to my list.

Every good teacher needs some videos to keep the class occupied on the days you want to kick back. In the police academy I show Dirty Harry movies during use of force training and clips from the Blues Brothers during pursiut/emergency response training.

[watchtower]

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The one thing I will make all of my students do is read 1984 and Starship Troopers. 1984 shows how history can be rewritten and Starship Troopers is a great explaination of why we fight.

You will make a very interesting teacher - 1984 (a socialist diatribe against the sort of goverment the USA has today) & starhip Troopers ( a Nazi/Faschist goverment in action)

Can I be in your class?

[RUPD3658]

I will likely get fired for expousing a form of Darwinism. Stupid people need to be removed from the gene pool before they are able to water it down to the point that we all think like the AI. If you don't know that the hot coffee will burn you or that packing peanuts can not be used as a flotaion device you should not be allowed to breed. You need a license for everything else today but not to have kids. Not a popular position in our politically correct world.

I am sure my students will say it was a great class until the teacher got fired or sent off to the reeducation camp. [:D]

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: watchtower


You will make a very interesting teacher - 1984 (a socialist diatribe against the sort of goverment the USA has today) & starhip Troopers ( a Nazi/Faschist goverment in action)

Can I be in your class?

Did you REALLY get that idea from READING Starship Troopers? The society it describes is pretty far away from National Socialism, much less faschism.

[watchtower]

Reading this thread from ther start reminds me of national socailism - ahhhh - then again where are the posters living

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: RUPD3658

I will likely get fired for expousing a form of Darwinism.

You will likely get fired first for saying "expousing."

[watchtower]

Ok before the flames start - that was a little rich - appologies.

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: watchtower
You will make a very interesting teacher - 1984 (a socialist diatribe against the sort of goverment the USA has today) & starhip Troopers ( a Nazi/Faschist goverment in action)

Eric Blair would have a lot of trouble with your characterization of his book, which was written long before "the sort of government the USA has today" evolved. I take particular exception to Heinlein's silly little tome being characterized as depicting a "Nazi/Faschist [sic] goverment [sic] in action."

[watchtower]

Eric Blair would have a lot of trouble with your characterization of his book, which was written long before "the sort of government the USA has today" evolved. I take particular exception to Heinlein's silly little tome being characterized as depicting a "Nazi/Faschist [sic] goverment [sic] in action."

Well of course he would. It was written well before current situations. I bet he would have a great deal to say about most so called 'democracies' that puport that status also. I don'n know where 'Heinlein's silly little tome ' came from as they are not my words. I have always regarded the book and his work dearly, although I do think Starship troopers has faschist overtones. (Blitzkrieg and extermination of an alien threat?)

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: watchtower

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Well of course he would. It was written well before current situations. I bet he would have a great deal to say about most so called 'democracies' that puport that status also. I don'n know where 'Heinlein's silly little tome ' came from as they are not my words. I have always regarded the book and his work dearly, although I do think Starship troopers has faschist overtones. (Blitzkrieg and extermination of an alien threat?)

Certainly agree about the theme of the extermination of an alien threat. However, I always considered that part to be straight American rather then fascist; consider the methods and results of the westward expansion beginning NLT 1680 (just one example, although Ben Franklin did not impllement his biological warfare proposal, he did carry it to the Pennsyhlvania Assembly as a serious proposal).