U.S. Land Based Aircraft vs. Japanese Carriers.

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: dtravel

Actually, the conspiracy theories about Roosevelt "letting" Pearl Harbor be attacked didn't start until long after the war was over.

I dunno about that - my Dad was a veteran of WWII, and he said he got really suspicious when a congressional investigation (which I believe was conducted during the war) subpoenaed a lot of documents, which got boxed up, put in a truck and then were incinerated. Gosh, no copies were available. What a shame. I think that might have started a lot of people thinking about a possible conspiracy during the war. Maybe this didn't get really moving until after the war due to patriotic sentiments, censorship, etc.

[dtravel]

I believe the Congressional Hearings on the attack at Pearl that assigned the blame to Kimmel and (blanking on his name, the Army CO) took place after the war. But its 11:30pm and I'm not putting a lot of effort into remembering, so.... *shrug*

[Dereck]

ORIGINAL: dtravel

I believe the Congressional Hearings on the attack at Pearl that assigned the blame to Kimmel and (blanking on his name, the Army CO) took place after the war. But its 11:30pm and I'm not putting a lot of effort into remembering, so.... *shrug*

Roberts Commission (22 December 1941 - 23 January 1942)

Hart Inquiry (22 February 1944 - 15 June 1944)

Army Pearl Harbor Board (20 July 1944 - 20 October 1944)

Navy Court of Inquiry (24 July 1944 - 19 October 1944)

Hewitt Investigation (15 May 1945 - 11 July 1945)

Clausen Investigation (23 November 1944 - 12 September 1945)

Clarke Investigation (14-16 September 1944 and 13 July 1945 - 4 August 1945)

Joint Congressional Committee Investigation (15 November 1945 - 15 July 1946)

[PeteG662]

I believe you are referring to General Short?????

[dtravel]

Thank you, Dereck.

[Disco Duck]

ORIGINAL: dtravel

Actually, the conspiracy theories about Roosevelt "letting" Pearl Harbor be attacked didn't start until long after the war was over.

I can't agree with that at all. It took me a while to find a good overview site that wasn't a conspiracy site but here is one. http://slate.msn.com/id/94663/

The talk about a conspiracy started right after the attack. I stand by my statement that if we had lost both Midway and Coral sea with Port Moresby being takin, that all this dirt about Pearl Harbor would have come out and peace with Japan would have been possible.

Most of the anger about the attack was because it was a surprise. If it wasn't truly a surprise then there is not much to be mad at the Japanese for.

Back to the original subject though. I am starting to lose my interest in the game because the Japanese navy tends to just ignore the fact that there are land base bombers in the area. I played the turning point scenario and loaded Moreby with over 100 bombers and heavy fighter escort and all they seemed to attack were transports on the other side of mountins. Every once and awhile they would attack the carriers but instead of doing it in mass they would also attack other task forces in range. The Japanese fleet just moved right in to Moresby like they owned the place.

As a game change suggestion. I would like to see a way to set priorty on what ships to attack and to adjust the search patterns for the main threat axis.

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: Massattack

I think you have pretty much come to the logical conclusion yourself. Allied LBA reluctant to attack CV groups unless well escorted: Not enough Allied escorts early on: Only high experience (above 70) LBA can actually land any bombs on moving naval targets. These are the real limitations the early war Allied commanders have to face.

Regards

Umm, re-read what I wrote. I said that even WITH what the players are told is a sufficient number of escort fighters, Allied LBA does NOT attack the IJN CVs anywhere near as much as they should. In my current game I've been watching the IJN carriers cruise up and down the Java Sea for several months and only be attacked twice! All the Dutch fighters have been at bases around it. I've moved a bunch of P-40s into the area. I've even seen the bombers set on Naval Attack fly past the carriers to attack ships in ports that are known to have CAP. There is another Gotcha programmed into the game here preventing Allied aircraft from attacking the IJN carriers.

And its beginning to piss me off almost as much as Ron is about ASW. [:@]

I wish I was that lucky. With great difficulty I built up my a/c strength in Java (transferred from the PI, Oz, Singapore and even India) in order to have at least some chance of repulsing the inevitiable Japanese invasion. The invasion fleet was then spotted; unfortunately KB was spotted as well (on the Indian Ocean side of the island at that). The a/c ignored the invasion and attacked KB. The invasion force was landed unharmed and vitually all of my a/c (about 90 bombers and 40 fighters) were lost attacking KB.