Maximum Football Release Date

[zowee77]

Veldor,

To answer your question read some of the earlier posts (first page) in this topic about other items of this game other than the release date. Also don't forget that these posts originated in the general forums and were moved to this forum. To answer your other question in regard to Matrix releasing this game go over to the first page and you will find your answer to that question as well. Lastly to ask how many times I should ask I guess as many times as you have posted (514 times to be exact at this post) about other topics many of them with similar subjects.[:-]

[Tbird]

Good luck

[Veldor]

ORIGINAL: zowee77

Veldor,

To answer your question read some of the earlier posts (first page) in this topic about other items of this game other than the release date. Also don't forget that these posts originated in the general forums and were moved to this forum. To answer your other question in regard to Matrix releasing this game go over to the first page and you will find your answer to that question as well. Lastly to ask how many times I should ask I guess as many times as you have posted (514 times to be exact at this post) about other topics many of them with similar subjects.[:-]

harsh.

Yes I got the press release automatically sent to me since I have a subscription.

514 posts over several years doesn't equate in anyway to starting 7 threads with the same topic within a 2 week timeframe.

I hope the answer now given placates you. It could still be sooner or later than that. So this projected date is of marginal value vs the original broader projection of January.

The greater point of mine was not to scold you somehow for your posts, I'm no Moderator. Just that from a Matrix Forum point of view you've now earned the unofficial title of "Maximum Football's #1 Fanboy" and as such, regardless of whats been posted elsewhere, in the Maximum Football forum itself there is little of value and few worthy discussions.

I was attempting to challenge you to help change that...

[zowee77]

Veldor,

"Maximum Football's Number #1 fanboy" I like the ring that has. Also I would like to point out to you that this forum is only a couple of days old give it sometime and better discussions will develope especially when people actually play the game. As far as "little value and few worthy discussions" that sounds more like opinion and criticism to me most of which has a negative impact on this game as well as people that post in these forums. When the game is released better discussions will develope. I may have posted 7 times with the same topic but if you go to the homepage we now at least know the general time the game will be released. Besides if we keep going on about this in reality we are actually getting off the original topic that the post started with which I think this topic itself has had the question answered at least good enough for most peoples taste anyway.[:)]

[turk96]

So, PC Gamer made up that release date out of thin air? That's funny, because before on the MF forums you stated that you had to give them a date, so you said that, even knowing it probably wasn't accurate. You can harp on that "I'm just one guy" thing all you want, but don't sit there and act like PC Gamer just made up some arbitrary date.

Well, now we don't even have a real release date as promised. This one is "Super Bowl-ish". Can you even confirm if the final gold version that will be released is in hand? Even that was ambiguous.

Personally, I'll wait for the reviews if the game ever even makes it out. Seems to me that game creators who throw around bogus release dates and then unapologetically deny it ever happened aren't that jazzed to get my cash anyway.

turk

[CFLColts]

In defense of zowee77, Veldor, if you have been to the original MF-site, you would know that we have known of the relationship between Matrix and MaxFootball since November 26. A lot of us have been following this project since the ealy stages a couple of years ago. Think of it as Christmas, and there is that one thing you have been waiting all year for. I really do not think it is out of the question to want to know when it comes out. For instance, now, I get an extra present because I will not be getting Max Football.

[Veldor]

ORIGINAL: CFLColts

In defense of zowee77, Veldor, if you have been to the original MF-site, you would know that we have known of the relationship between Matrix and MaxFootball since November 26. A lot of us have been following this project since the ealy stages a couple of years ago. Think of it as Christmas, and there is that one thing you have been waiting all year for. I really do not think it is out of the question to want to know when it comes out. For instance, now, I get an extra present because I will not be getting Max Football.

Heys guys really forget I ever said anything. You've ignored entirely what was suppose to be constructive comments and obviously my point was missed. I don't see what wanting to know what a release date is has to do with starting a new thread on that topic every other day in what amounts to an "Are We There Yet", "Are We There Yet", "Are We There Yet" style tantrum.

Where I am mistaken is in the purpose for some peoples visit to these forums vs. others. I, for instance, come to these "in development" forums for thought provoking discussions about various games and aspects of gaming, as well as to visit the released games forums for a variety of additional purposes. From the posts I see most of the others here come here for similiar reasons. I merely challenged someone to help start more useful threads like that in this forum and let this one die now that an answer has been given. But apparantly that person isn't up to the challenge, nor is anyone else here yet.

The game need not be released to start discussing it here. Hell look at any one of the other forums here, half of which are for games even further from release than this one.

Why my suggestion for advancing the interest in this game by starting more thought-provoking threads in this forum has turned into a combined defense of why a certain fanbase is entitled to be given an exact release date for a game I do not know. One has nothing to do with the other.

Are any of you capable of starting a more interesting and useful thread? Since no one has am I to think not?

But please, by all means, prove me wrong.

If I were a big fan of a game put out by a small company, heck in this case a one man company, I would be doing everything I could to help promote it. Since that will ultimately help ensure its success, continued support, opposing players, addons, sequels, etc. I would be posting all over its forum. Since these forums are the new home for the product, there is no better place to start doing it now than here.

But so far, of the fans here, all I've seen anyone do is b!tch and moan.

I mean what the hell is this suppose to be?:

ORIGINAL: turk96

So, PC Gamer made up that release date out of thin air? That's funny, because before on the MF forums you stated that you had to give them a date, so you said that, even knowing it probably wasn't accurate. You can harp on that "I'm just one guy" thing all you want, but don't sit there and act like PC Gamer just made up some arbitrary date.

Well, now we don't even have a real release date as promised. This one is "Super Bowl-ish". Can you even confirm if the final gold version that will be released is in hand? Even that was ambiguous.

Personally, I'll wait for the reviews if the game ever even makes it out. Seems to me that game creators who throw around bogus release dates and then unapologetically deny it ever happened aren't that jazzed to get my cash anyway.

turk

How much more unappreciative can you get? You've all said your alternative to this game is nothing. So is that what you would really rather have? NOTHING?

I think not or I suspect you wouldn't be here in the first place. And if your going to be here than why not try to HELP instead of HURT the game in question?

[Marc von Martial]

So, PC Gamer made up that release date out of thin air?

Yes, along with EB Games they love to do this.

[zowee77]

Veldor,

Again I think that you are missing the point. Remember it is us that is posting in the right forum. If you want to be a critic why don't you ask the administrator to allow to start a Maximum Football critics forum if you are so passionate about "challenging everyone". Also remember in my previous post that I mentioned that more intelligent discussion would take place after the hurddle has been jumped which appears to be the release date. Just because this fan base has a different point of view than you does not mean that the threads here are any less correct or challenged than what your point of view is. I find it quite odd since the time that any Maximum Football fans have posted in these forums we seem to have been facing criticism about one topic or the other if their is such an attitude of togethrness and unity about strategy games players why don't you excercise this in this thread as well. Oddly enough I find it strange that you continue to argue with people in this forum but yet you yourself have not really been making any what you consider "intelligent" or "challenging" comments about the game.

[Erik Rutins]

Guys,

Look, we have a release date now - around January 31st, the beginning of SuperBowl week. Let's head the discussion towards discussing what Maximum-Football has to offer and what you might like to see in it that's not in the list of announced features. Thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

[zowee77]

Erik,

I agree with you 100%. When I began this thread it , as I mention in a previous post, was about the release date. That question got answered on the first page. As an idea for a topic how about someone open the discussion about the computer versus computer gameplay using human made gameplans.

[Veldor]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Guys,

Look, we have a release date now - around January 31st, the beginning of SuperBowl week. Let's head the discussion towards discussing what Maximum-Football has to offer and what you might like to see in it that's not in the list of announced features. Thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

Thank you.

[zowee77]

Veldor,

No thank you![:)]

[freeboy]

ANYBODY Awake on this issue?

[Tbird]

Anyword on what the price will be for the game or is that still being discussed

[ravinhood]

It will be nice to see someone bring a strategic football game with graphics to the table of statistical sports games. But, if you don't require the graphics and want good statistical replays and seasons there's still always APBA and STRATOMATIC that provide these challenges, but, without any graphics.

Myself, I took Madden 2004 and played around with the sliders for two weeks, tweaking them until the statistics of the games matched fairly well with the statistics of the real season. The only real problem with statistical replays, one has to take into account that "On any given Sunday" affect, where a really bad team can and will beat a really good team, even in statistical replays this happens, thus, nothing will ever be a perfect rendition of any given season on a game by game basis. The end results may be close, but, even those will change over and over if you play the same season over and over.

For my baseball statistical replays now, I like to use "Out of the Park Baseball version 5 right now, though I will be upgrading the version 6 soon since they dropped the price to $19.99 now instead of the $34.99 origional price. "Out of the Park Baseball" probably offers the best statistical replays with a little bit of color commentary and the games play fast and you can play a season in a matter of a few hours if you want. I also believe they are working on a "football" version of their engine and I will be looking forward to that. Watching the game graphically is ok for a few games, but, pretty soon gets a little boring and I end up just quick simming my seasons, since I have the most fun signing free agents, making trades, the rookie draft, etc. than actually coaching each full game. I guess I prefer being a "manager/owner", than the actual game calling coach or player as in Madden football.

[zowee77]

Maximum Football is not like Madden in that it is not an arcade game. Madden is more based on how good you are with a joystick and not how good you are at making gameplans and playbooks. Another feature Madden does not have is the ability to make practically any play you want and to import the gameplan for computer teams to follow as well as your own. Their are actually several games that are out currently that log statistics and even have a career mode but none of the games have graphics most of them are just a bunch of statistical models and you are supposed to use your "imagination" for the on field action. This game will eliminate that due to the fact that not only does it have a good statistical model but it also has very good graphics and in the future it will hopefully have a career mode but hey their is always 3rd party sources if it never comes packaged within the game.

[OrionX]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Guys,

Look, we have a release date now - around January 31st, the beginning of SuperBowl week. Let's head the discussion towards discussing what Maximum-Football has to offer and what you might like to see in it that's not in the list of announced features. Thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

[&o]

This would be a good start. [:D]

Found this link at the maximum football forums.

http://maxfb.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=982&s=4461618e23535089c08930415d3b8ebc

everything in that thread pretty much sums up what we need and would like to see. [&o]

[Tbird]

ORIGINAL: turk96

So, PC Gamer made up that release date out of thin air? That's funny, because before on the MF forums you stated that you had to give them a date, so you said that, even knowing it probably wasn't accurate. You can harp on that "I'm just one guy" thing all you want, but don't sit there and act like PC Gamer just made up some arbitrary date.

Dates that appear for games on PCgamer aren't always final either read that article on that wife who's married to an EA game developer and you'll understand what a company does to it's employees as the release date gets closer and in some cases they still push the dates back.