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RE: Limit of Aircraft Artwork

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We need to finalize our list of newly added Aircraft...
Does anyone know if the British had a carrier-based night fighter???

There were three squadrons of Firefly night fighters raised by the Fleet Air Arm in 1945. Only one of those (1790 Squadron FAA) made it to the Pacific before VJ day - they arrived at Schofields (Sydney, Australia) in mid August. I think that this is probably a bit marginal...save the slot.

See here: http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Squadrons/1790.html

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Variations of British made carrier aircraft are also "nice to haves". Albacore was an intended replacement for the Swordfish that was only slightly used in the Eastern/Pacific fleets. Two versions of Seafire is also getting rather fine. I'm not familiar with any other new British aircraft about to come on line at the end of the war - anyone??

Don, I think that you should limit the British to what they have and any new US types (although that would require retraining etc).

What follows is a long passage (scanned verbatim and formatted) from: Grove, Eric (1987) Vanguard to Trident (London: Bodley Head) pp15 - 18. Basically it shows that the Fleet Air Arm wasn't really going to get new British types fast. Also, as the British aircraft replacement service for the British Pacific Fleet had almost broken down by August 1945, I can't see them being able to able to cope with a slew of new types all complex and not fully operational.

Long Passage follows...

The intended shape of Naval Aviation in the late 1940s was given in an Admiralty paper of August 1944 that speculated that in four years' time the Royal Navy would have eight hundred first-line combat aircraft. Of these 385 would be fighters. These would be of five types: the Seafire, a modification of the land-based Spitfire and never a satisfactory carrier aircraft (although with good speed and climb characteristics for a piston-engined machine); the Firefly, a slow two-seater more useful for reconnaissance, strike, and antisubmarine duties than engaging enemy aircraft; the Sea Hornet, a new high-performance twin-engined aircraft but large and heavy; the Sea Fury, a promising new conversion of a land-based single-seater but with a high landing speed; and the Wyvern, a large, high-performance, heavy single-seater in an early stage of development. In addition to these there would be between eighty and one hundred Firebrand single-seat torpedo strike aircraft, a similar number of larger, single-engined Fairey Spearfish bombers, and one hundred Sea Mosquito and Short Sturgeon twin-engined bomber reconnaissance aircraft. Even before the end of the war, delays had occurred in this program, especially to the Wyvern project, which was given a low priority. In May 1945, 150 Supermarine Seafang fighters were ordered as a stopgap. Nevertheless, great hopes were placed in the new types when and if they did arrive, especially the Wyvern, Spearfish, and Sturgeon. They were massive and expensive aircraft, with an emphasis on range rather than speed. The main problem was, however, that, due to weight and size limitations, no existing carriers could operate them.

The Ark Royal-type fleet carriers and Hermes-class light fleet carriers were the only ships able to operate such big aircraft, but these were still far from completion. Moves were made to accelerate the Hermes-class ship, HMS Albion, at Swan Hunter on the Tyne in early 1946, but merchant shipbuilding prevented this. The Royal Navy would be forced to make do, in the short term at least, with its existing carrier fleet.

This was numerically quite impressive, but relatively large numbers belied significant qualitative problems. Britain's six armored-hangar fleet carriers had been conceived in the 1930s on the basis of some very restrictive assumptions about the role of the carrier and the number, size, and performance of the aircraft she carried. Even during the war severe problems had been faced in operating high-performance aircraft in sufficient quantities from British ships. Attempts were made to improve the problem of limited hangar space. Only three, the Illustrious, Formidable, and Victorious, were completed to the original design. Indomitable was given an extra half hangar while under construction, and Implacable and Indefatigable were heavily modified with two full-length hangars of reduced height. These expedients created problems of their own-Implacable and Indefatigable could not operate any American fighters as all types, when their wings were folded, were too high for their hangars. The new generation of aircraft promised still greater problems (see table at end of post - sorry about size, first time trying this)

When the fleet carriers finally came home after duty as transports repatriating prisoners and demobilized personnel, they were either put into a well-earned reserve or demoted to second-line duties. The Illustrious, with her limited modifications, continued in service as a deck-landing trials ships, while the Implacable became the training carrier for advanced flying. The latter was given modified barriers and arrester gear in 1947, and the same year the Victorious, unmodified and without aircraft, joined the battleships Anson and Howe in the training squadron. There was little point in running such large carriers operationally, as the size of a contemporary air group, around twenty-four aircraft, was well within the capacity of an unarmored light fleet carrier of the Colossus class. These little 13,000 ton vessels, built during the war to boost the Royal Navy's quantity of flight decks as rapidly as possible, had a ship's company of 850 men, half a fleet carrier's complement. Hardly surprisingly, therefore, it was these ships that provided the backbone of the Royal Navy's carrier force in the immediate postwar years. With two on loan and two, the Perseus and Pioneer, completed as aircraft maintenance support ships (a lesson of the Pacific War), the Royal Navy was left with six of these useful and economical aircraft carriers: the Glory, Ocean, Theseus, Triumph, Venerable, and Vengeance. No more than three or four were usually in commission at anyone time. With their relatively large lifts and hangars they could stow any of the new aircraft, although their arrester gear, crash barriers, and lifts required modifications to operate all the new generation. The Majesties were to be completed with a full set of modifications to operate 20,000-lb. aircraft, but work was proceeding on these ships only at a snail's pace.

The short-term solution to the carrier aircraft problem was dictated by the financial climate as much as by any other single factor. The Royal Navy's aircraft orders were repeatedly slashed. As soon as, the war ended, the Sturgeon and Spearfish orders were reduced to a few development aircraft (the Sturgeon later saw limited use as a target tug; it was considered for ASW duties but never developed as such). Nevertheless, there were still over 1,500 naval aircraft on order in November 1945 for delivery before December 1946. The chancellor specifically singled out these for attention in his correspondence with the Admiralty. The numbers were duly cut once more, and still further reductions occurred later in 1946. The Seafang, for example, was cancelled as an operational type, perhaps no bad thing given its poor handling qualities. When not cancelled, aircraft were delayed, and those machines that did arrive had problems that prevented them getting to carriers. The Firebrand TF4 had to be grounded for an extended period as a result of aileron and elevator oscillation, and eventually the one squadron of these aircraft, 813, was temporarily disbanded. In August 1946 naval air strength was down to a minimum of some 122 operational aircraft, little more than a tenth the level of a year before. Even of this handful, the only available single-seat fighters, the Seafire 15 and 18 models, were temporarily banned from carriers because of supercharger problems.

This was perhaps the all-time low point of Naval Aviation. No squadrons were deployed in carriers in August, although the Glory, Ocean, and Theseus were back at sea-with all Firefly air groups-by September 1946. Slowly the aircraft situation improved in the following months. Seafires were reembarked and a semi-usable Firebrand finally appeared with 813 Squadron in April 1947. It was still not an entirely satisfactory aircraft, but at least it could be operated from carriers. Perhaps the most unfortunate squadron of this period was 811, equipped with the special naval variant of the Mosquito, the TR 33, in April 1946 (having operated an RAF version, the FB6, since September 1945). With no carriers capable of taking its aircraft, the squadron disbanded on 1 July 1947, having served only at shore stations. The Sea Mosquito had been intended to carry the large "Uncle Tom" rocket, an air-launched underwater attack weapon, ten inches in diameter and weighing 1,000 lbs. This was designed to be launched in level flight at a range of 2,000 yards, but was cancelled about the time the Sea Mosquitoes were taken out of service. Also abortive were rather odd air-to-surface projects like the "Zoster" winged torpedo, a "jet-propelled torpedo" called Bootleg and a "supersonic weapon with underwater run" code-named "Nozzle." Naval strike aircraft had to make do with bombs, 3-inch rockets, and the 18-inch torpedo.

It is a serious error to gauge British naval air strength in the immediate postwar period from a mere perusal of the pages about carriers that appeared in naval reference books. Carrier air power has always meant much more than mere numbers of flight decks, and in no period was that more true than in the years immediately after the war. It was unsurprising that this most expensive and taxing dimension of naval power should have continued to demonstrate the Royal Navy's serious shortfalls in resources. One way out of the problem was to attempt to spread the load more widely. The Royal Navy helped foster the aviation components of friendly navies within and without the Commonwealth…


So there you are, lots of development but highly unlikely it would see action.

I hope this helps aid thinking,

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RE: Limit of Aircraft Artwork

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Excellent post. The depth of knowledge and research ability of Forum members is nothing short of amazing!

I have a copy of the updated version of Lenton's British and Empire Warships of World War II. It lists actual completements for British carriers and various times during the war.

Usages of some of the aircraft currently under discussion:

Martlet (II and IV) or Wildcat (V or no mark given):
Illustrious 5/42 through 9/43
Victorious 10/42 through 5/43
Formidable 4/42 through 9/43
Indomitable 8/42
Many British CVE 44/45

Wildcat VI (equates to FM-2):
Many CVE 44/45

Sea Hurricane:
Victorious 6/42
Indomitable 4/42 through 8/42

Seafire:
Illustrious 7/43 through 9/43 (model IIC)
Formidable 5/43 through 9/43 (model IIC)
Indomitable 5/43 (model IIC and LIIC)
Implacable 10/44 through 6/45 (model LIII, FIII, FRIII)
Indefatigable 6/44 through 7/45 (model FIII and LIII)

Albacore:
Formidable 4/42 through 9/43
Indomitable 4/42 through 5/43

Notes: many carriers had mixed groups (Martlet and Seafire, for example), which we will not be able to implement. I did not record the Hellcat, Corsair, and Avenger squadrons - a bunch of them! And, since these are "snapshots" at various times, the exact usage of aircraft is only approximate. Indomitable, for example, had Seafire on 5/43. She did not have them on the adjoining snapshots (8/42 and 8/44) - I have no information as to the period during these two years when she carried her Seafires.

In my mind:

Need Sea Hurricane, Martlet (includes Wildcat V), Wildcat VI, Seafire.
Might add: 2nd Model of Seafire, Albacore, 2nd model of corsair (very slight chance)
Might remove: Second model of Avenger
(only British carrier a/c addressed)
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Notes: many carriers had mixed groups (Martlet and Seafire, for example), which we will not be able to implement. I did not record the Hellcat, Corsair, and Avenger squadrons - a bunch of them! And, since these are "snapshots" at various times, the exact usage of aircraft is only approximate. Indomitable, for example, had Seafire on 5/43. She did not have them on the adjoining snapshots (8/42 and 8/44) - I have no information as to the period during these two years when she carried her Seafires.

Don, I am happy to try and nail down a British Fleet Air Arm OOB for WITP. I am happy to look in the Public Record Office/National Archives and see what I can do - I can't do this before the weekend thou' (I know you are trying to wrap this up soon).

Would that be useful, or do you have it already nailed down (I only have the 1970s copy of Fenton - it doesn't list the FAA)? (If so, then I'll concentrate on the naval OOB - especially for the auxilliaries etc - I know you want that as well)

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Don, I am happy to try and nail down a British Fleet Air Arm OOB for WITP. I am happy to look in the Public Record Office/National Archives and see what I can do - I can't do this before the weekend thou' (I know you are trying to wrap this up soon).

Would that be useful, or do you have it already nailed down (I only have the 1970s copy of Fenton - it doesn't list the FAA)? (If so, then I'll concentrate on the naval OOB - especially for the auxilliaries etc - I know you want that as well)

Regards,

Philip Bass

I think the auxilliaries is the greater need of the two. We have enough to do a decent job with the airgroups but very little on the lesser ships of the Eastern Fleet. Could use anything you could find on small warships (Sloops, Corvettes especially) and amphibious ships.

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Hi there

I'm in agreement with Don about the british carrier aircraft

"Need Sea Hurricane, Martlet (includes Wildcat V), Wildcat VI, Seafire.
Might add: 2nd Model of Seafire, Albacore, 2nd model of corsair (very slight chance)
Might remove: Second model of Avenger
(only British carrier a/c addressed)"

I would put my two pennyworth for a late 2nd model of seafire say about mid 45 representing the longer range available ( they started using drop tanks ) and the griffon engined types available in later 45 & 46

You could remove the Barracuda from the aircraft slots as I dont remenber it playing much of a part in the Pacific war


NB Don The Indomidable was laid up for late 42 & early 43 repairing bomb damage inflicted during operation Pedastal she operated Seafires in the in the Med in 43 & Covering various landings then covered Normandy invasion, She also had another minor refit I believe, She transfered to US model aircraft for Pacific operations

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Hi there

I'm in agreement with Don about the british carrier aircraft

"Need Sea Hurricane, Martlet (includes Wildcat V), Wildcat VI, Seafire.
Might add: 2nd Model of Seafire, Albacore, 2nd model of corsair (very slight chance)
Might remove: Second model of Avenger
(only British carrier a/c addressed)"

I would put my two pennyworth for a late 2nd model of seafire say about mid 45 representing the longer range available ( they started using drop tanks ) and the griffon engined types available in later 45 & 46

You could remove the Barracuda from the aircraft slots as I dont remenber it playing much of a part in the Pacific war


NB Don The Indomidable was laid up for late 42 & early 43 repairing bomb damage inflicted during operation Pedastal she operated Seafires in the in the Med in 43 & Covering various landings then covered Normandy invasion, She also had another minor refit I believe, She transfered to US model aircraft for Pacific operations

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Thanks - I should have remembered about Indomitable - I have several books with that data but failed to look it up. I did notice that several British CV carry the Barracuda - two models in fact, the second had radar.

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Don,

Barracudas are used in the Indian Ocean in 1944 on several missions:

The strike on Sabang Island (hex 19,41 on Andrew Brown's map mod) in April 1944, by Illustrious (in conjunction with the Saratoga)
The strike on Port Blair (hex 23,34) in June 1944 by Illustrious
The strike on Emmahaven/Padang (hex 18,51) in August 1944 by Victorious and Indomitable
The strike on Sigli rail repair yards (hex 20,42 I guess) in September 1944 by Victorious and Indomitable
The strike on the Nicobar Islands (hex 20,38)in October 1944 by Victorious and Indomitable

It appears that the Barracudas disappear from the fleet carriers that are sent to the Pacific from the East Indies: Avengers are used in the strikes on the Pangkalan Brandan (hex 20,45) and Palembang (hex 20,55) oil refineries in January 1945.

Source: Naval Staff History (1957 & 1959) The War Against Japan Volume V and VI(London: HMSO)

So I guess that Barracudas should be in as they are the principle British carrier strike plane in 1944 in the theatre.

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I'm totally for adding the P-43 Lancer and P-48/66 Vanguard to the Allied mix. I think it will add to the already unique flavour of the China Theatre. It's kind of like a redneck's front yard, all sorts of other people's castoff junk lying around...great stuff.
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I'm totally for adding the P-43 Lancer and P-48/66 Vanguard to the Allied mix. I think it will add to the already unique flavour of the China Theatre. It's kind of like a redneck's front yard, all sorts of other people's castoff junk lying around...great stuff.

Yeah, I like to include the P-43 as well. One U.S. fighter group was 2/3 equipped with P-43 at the beginning of the war and over a hundred were later sent to China. With limited aircraft icons available, perhaps we could try an "unmarked" P-43 icon that would serve for both.

I also like the P-38E as another U.S. Fighter Group in California had them (or perhaps D's) at the beginning of the war.

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I'm totally for adding the P-43 Lancer and P-48/66 Vanguard to the Allied mix. I think it will add to the already unique flavour of the China Theatre. It's kind of like a redneck's front yard, all sorts of other people's castoff junk lying around...great stuff.

Yeah, I like to include the P-43 as well. One U.S. fighter group was 2/3 equipped with P-43 at the beginning of the war and over a hundred were later sent to China. With limited aircraft icons available, perhaps we could try an "unmarked" P-43 icon that would serve for both.

I also like the P-38E as another U.S. Fighter Group in California had them (or perhaps D's) at the beginning of the war.

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The P-35 and 43 are close from a profile standpoint as well. The P-38 early marks would indeed be welcome.

Question. I know it's not possible in the game except through player manipulation but were not many P-39 Fgroups actually mixed? Ie, 2 x P-39 Squadron; 1 x P-38 Squadron.
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Question. I know it's not possible in the game except through player manipulation but were not many P-39 Fgroups actually mixed? Ie, 2 x P-39 Squadron; 1 x P-38 Squadron.

Yes indeed - primarily groups whose squadrons were converting to new aircraft, one by one. Paul Yarnall worked up a very nice scenario in which all groups were replaced with their component squadrons. This means that they stay "independent" squadrons forever. I'm planning on doing this only for mixed groups.

I guess I could live with a P-35 icon for a P-43. We might even go the other way and use a P-43 for a P-35 - historically the P-43s were active for a much longer period during the war.
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Question. I know it's not possible in the game except through player manipulation but were not many P-39 Fgroups actually mixed? Ie, 2 x P-39 Squadron; 1 x P-38 Squadron.

Yes indeed - primarily groups whose squadrons were converting to new aircraft, one by one. Paul Yarnall worked up a very nice scenario in which all groups were replaced with their component squadrons. This means that they stay "independent" squadrons forever. I'm planning on doing this only for mixed groups.

I guess I could live with a P-35 icon for a P-43. We might even go the other way and use a P-43 for a P-35 - historically the P-43s were active for a much longer period during the war.

I'd go with the P-43 if we have to choose.
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WHy not use a razorback Tbolt icon? After all, what is a P-43 but a baby Thunderbolt.
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WHy not use a razorback Tbolt icon? After all, what is a P-43 but a baby Thunderbolt.

Silence! Not "unique" enough![:D]
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Sorry, but everytime I see a P-43 I think "Aww, is hims a good baby Tbolt?"
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P-43 is already on my short list. I am planning on using Chinese markings on it as that was the primary user. Here is the side.

The only reason we should use another plane top to represent a totally different A/C is if it is absolutely necessary. I would prefer to combine like aircraft to one planetop before we do what you are suggesting Tanker.

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P-43 is already on my short list. I am planning on using Chinese markings on it as that was the primary user. Here is the side.

The only reason we should use another plane top to represent a totally different A/C is if it is absolutely necessary. I would prefer to combine like aircraft to one planetop before we do what you are suggesting Tanker.

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Good work so far... keep it up

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Here's my $.02 worth.

From Lemurs mod as a base.

Unit Number Name
77 Sea Hurricane
78 Seafire IIC
79 Fulmar
80 F2A Buffalo Change to F2A3 Buffalo
81 Martlet II
82 F4F-3 Wildcat
83 F4F-4 Wildcat
84 F8F-N Bearcat
85 F6F Hellcat Make F6F-3 Hellcat
86 Hellcat II Rename to Hellcat - Composit of F6F-3&5
87 F4U-1 Corsair
88 F4U-1D Corsair
89 Corsair IV
90 Firefly
91 F8F Bearcat Add
92 SBD Dauntless
93 SB2C Helldiver
94 F6F-5N Hellcat Change to F6F-N for all Hellcat nightfighters
95 Swordfish
96 Barracuda
97 TBD Devastator
98 TBF Avenger
99 F7F Tigercat Add
100 Avenger I Rename to Avenger
101 Ryan FR Fireball
102 TBM-3d Avenger
103 PBY Catalina
104 Catalina I
105 Singapore
106 Empire
107 Sunderland
108 Do 24K-2
109 OS2U-3 Kingfisher
110 SOC-3 Seagull
111 C.XI-W
112 PBM Mariner
113 Dakota I
114 C-47 Dakota
115 Lockheed 212
116 C-60A Lodestar
117 PB2Y Coronado
118 Lysander I
119 Wirraway
120 Boomerang II
121 Mohawk IV
122 Hawk 75A-7
123 CW-21B Demon
124 Brewster 339D
125 Buffalo I
126 Hurricane IIb Change to just Hurricane or Hurricane IIA/B as both types sent to Pacific.
127 Spitfire Vb
128 Spitfire VIII
129 Spitfire XIV
130 Kittyhawk I
131 Kittyhawk III Change to Kittyhawk IV
132 Thunderbolt II Razorback
133 Blenheim IF
134 Beaufighter VIF
135 CW-22 Falcon
136 F.K.51
137 Stranraer
138 Vildebeest IV
139 Vengeance I
140 T.IVa Should this have a Build Rate instead of just Pool figures? It was no longer being produced.
141 Walrus
142 Blenheim I
143 Blenheim IV
144 Wellington III
145 Liberator VI
146 Martin 139 Should this have a Build Rate instead of just Pool figures? It was no longer being produced.
147 Hudson I Shouldn't these be Hudson III
148 Beaufort I
149 Beaufighter VIC
150 Mosquito FB.VI
151 Mosquito PR.IX
152 Beaufighter Mk 21
153 Beaufort V-IX
154 Ventura V
155 Mosquito B.XXVI
156 C-46 Commando
157 P-26A
158 P-35A
159 P-36A Mohawk Should this have a Build Rate instead of just Pool figures? It was no longer being produced.
160 P-400 Airacobra
161 P-39D Airacobra
162 P-40B Tomahawk
163 P-40E Warhawk
164 P-40N Warhawk
165 P-38G Lightning
166 P-38J Lightning
167 F-5A Lightning
168 F-5C Lightning
169 P-47C Thunderbolt
170 P-47D Thunderbolt Razorback
171 P51H Mustang
172 A-36A Apache
173 P-51B Mustang
174 P-51D Mustang
175 F-6A Mustang
176 F-6D Mustang
177 P-61A Black Widow
178 P-70A Havoc
179 B-18A Bolo
180 PV-1n Ventura
181 A-24 Dauntless
182 A-20B Boston
183 A-20G Havoc
184 PV-1 Ventura
185 B-25C Mitchell
186 B-25J Mitchell
187 Hurricane IIc
188 B-26B Marauder
189 B-26G Marauder
190 SB2U Vindicator Not used on carriers in game
191 A-26B Invader
192 B-32 Dominator Add
193 B-17D Fortress
194 B-17E Fortress
195 B-17G Fortress
196 LB-30 Liberator
197 PB4Y Liberator
198 B-24D Liberator
199 B-24J Liberator
200 Lancaster Add
201 B-29 Superfortress
202 P-80 Shooting Star Add
203 P-47 N Add
204 I-153c
205 I-16c
206 A-29 Hudson Add - Chinese markings (23 a/c)
207 IL-4c
208 SB-2c
209 P-43 Lancer Add - Chinese markings
210 P-66 Vanguard Add -Chinese markings
211 P-47 D Bubbletop Add
212 I-152
213 I-153
214 I-16 Type 24
215 Thunderbolt II Bubbletop Add
216 MiG-3
217
218 LaGG-3
219 La-5FN
220 La-7
221
222 Yak-1
223 Yak-3
224 Yak-9D
225
226 P-63A
227 P-39Q
228
229 IL-2 Shturmovik Change to IL-2 Sturmovik
230 IL-2m3 Shturmovik Change to IL-2m3 Sturmovik
231
232 SB-2
233 Pe-2
234 Tu-2S
235
236 IL-4
237
238 Pe-2R
239 R-12
240 Yak-9UF
241
242
243 Li-2
244 Albacore
245 TBM Avenger Use TBF art
246 FM-2 Wildcat Use F4F art
247 F6F- 5 Hellcat Use F6F-3 art
248 Wildcat IV/VI Use Martlet II art
249 Seafire III Use Seafire IIC art

Eliminate Avenger II

Should any of the Chinese a/c have Build Rates instead of Pool figures. The Russians were not supplying the Chinese with any new aircraft during the war.
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