why IJN had no PT Boats?
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Onime No Kyo
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
Its also pretty crummy that they dont get the A-bomb or B-29 upgrades. That just sucks.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
Or essex carriers with well trained pilots and 250 dd able to attack subs
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
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Or essex carriers with well trained pilots and 250 dd able to attack subs
I don't need 250 DD's to kill subs.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
ORIGINAL: Zeke
that is not fair [:@]
Dont they have a couple on that island imbeteewn Indochina and China, where the paratroopers start.
Not really somthing i get horribly upset about being a Jap player, got more annoying things to worry about.
RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
What are gyoraitai? They are classed as PTs. Not as many as US but it would be interesting to pit one against the other.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
They start the game with half a dozen, but they don't produce any during the war.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
ORIGINAL: Drex
What are gyoraitai? They are classed as PTs. Not as many as US but it would be interesting to pit one against the other.
Arnt those classes as barges also? [&:]
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
i thought barges were AGs. However even barges were armored and armed b ut of course slow.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
Japan completed at least 248 Motor Torpedo Boats during the war - 49 known lost and 199 surrendered. Most were smaller than US boats and had inferior performance, with most classes having speeds well under 30 knots.
The best boats were the T-14 and T-15 types which began to come into service in 1944. These were about 50 feet in length, 33-35 knots, and armed with two 18-inch torpedoes. US boats were 78-80 feet, are listed at speeds of around 40 knots, and were generally armed with 4 21-inch torpedoes.
The Japanese did not use their boats as aggressively as the Americans did and there is very little mention of them in the history books. We originally had about 50 in the Combined Historical Scenario but removed them so we could use the “slots” for more useful ships.
The best boats were the T-14 and T-15 types which began to come into service in 1944. These were about 50 feet in length, 33-35 knots, and armed with two 18-inch torpedoes. US boats were 78-80 feet, are listed at speeds of around 40 knots, and were generally armed with 4 21-inch torpedoes.
The Japanese did not use their boats as aggressively as the Americans did and there is very little mention of them in the history books. We originally had about 50 in the Combined Historical Scenario but removed them so we could use the “slots” for more useful ships.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
Oh, thanks Don. However, I'm still ticked that the Japanese don't get proximity fuses.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
In their infinite zeal for miniaturization the Japanese prepared upwards of 6,000 of those one man suicide 'Shinyo' boats for the final defense of the Home Islands but no Allied ship was seriously damaged by them.
RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
japanese mtbs must rank as the worst of their type in wwii. the designs showed little advance over the old cmbs, and the lack of engines crippled the program.
the ijn convinced itself that mtbs were a great asw platform, which actually was one of the jobs they were worst at.
the ijn convinced itself that mtbs were a great asw platform, which actually was one of the jobs they were worst at.
RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
I don't need 250 DD's to kill subs.
OK, you need 350 dd [X(] you are not killing too many, most are going back to wake/pearl other for refitts..
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen
Japan completed at least 248 Motor Torpedo Boats during the war - 49 known lost and 199 surrendered. Most were smaller than US boats and had inferior performance, with most classes having speeds well under 30 knots.
The best boats were the T-14 and T-15 types which began to come into service in 1944. These were about 50 feet in length, 33-35 knots, and armed with two 18-inch torpedoes. US boats were 78-80 feet, are listed at speeds of around 40 knots, and were generally armed with 4 21-inch torpedoes.
The Japanese did not use their boats as aggressively as the Americans did and there is very little mention of them in the history books. We originally had about 50 in the Combined Historical Scenario but removed them so we could use the “slots” for more useful ships.
These were changed to the much better aerial brand eventually. Is that implemented in WitP?
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
Bet'cha its not. [:)]
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo
Bet'cha its not. [:)]
Betcha you're right. [:(]
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo
Bet'cha its not. [:)]
Actually they do, at least the Elco 80 footers. They change from the 21 inch Mark 8 to the 22 inch Mark 13.
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RE: why IJN had no PT Boats?
ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo
Oh, thanks Don. However, I'm still ticked that the Japanese don't get proximity fuses.
They couldn't produce a decent infantry rifle, or a good MG. Their artillery sucked, and
so did their tanks. Did you really expect them to master the proximity fuze? Or are
you just speaking tongue-in-cheek?