Great patriotic war (german version)
While anxiously awaiting the autumn rains, the Red Army struck back to free the units surrounded near the Polish border, and threw back an invading infantry unit north of Kiev. However, nothing was accomplished in the Moscow area, which is now threatened from two directions.
Axis/Soviet
389/184 Squads
25/150 AFVs
661/222 Guns
48/0 Planes
Axis/Soviet
389/184 Squads
25/150 AFVs
661/222 Guns
48/0 Planes
1944.09.16.
Clear
In the central front 2 armies surrendered this week, and other soviet forces including a tank army were beaten badly. On the Moscow front the panzers started a bloody frontal attack, and forced a soviet army to surrender, and another one to shatter.The panzer losses are very high, as the soviet defense has stopped our attack in one place, and the fights were very heavy even when german panzers won the battle. But we are now only 2 hexes away from Moscow with (hopefully) secure flanks!
Losses this week:
Axis/Soviet
Squad 538/3234
Afv 426/590
Gun 67/1813
Air 115/16
O.K.H.
[ January 23, 2002: Message edited by: Tom1939 ]</p>
Clear
In the central front 2 armies surrendered this week, and other soviet forces including a tank army were beaten badly. On the Moscow front the panzers started a bloody frontal attack, and forced a soviet army to surrender, and another one to shatter.The panzer losses are very high, as the soviet defense has stopped our attack in one place, and the fights were very heavy even when german panzers won the battle. But we are now only 2 hexes away from Moscow with (hopefully) secure flanks!
Losses this week:
Axis/Soviet
Squad 538/3234
Afv 426/590
Gun 67/1813
Air 115/16
O.K.H.
[ January 23, 2002: Message edited by: Tom1939 ]</p>
The forces in the west are preparing for a full scale retreat toward Moscow. Final preparations to defend in the city's close in defenses are complete, but the population is restless, expecting further disasters to occur. A counterattack from the east was launched to cut portions of the enemy rail network, but the attack failed to throw back the enemy infantry this time.
Axis/Soviet
222/267 Squads
6/118 AFVs
102/144 Guns
27/0 planes
Axis/Soviet
222/267 Squads
6/118 AFVs
102/144 Guns
27/0 planes
1944.09.23.
Clear
The onslaught has continued, as the panzers reached the outskirts of Moscow. Several soviet armies were shattered. In the Minsk area our offense continued forcing one soviet army to surrender.
Losses this week:
Axis/Soviet
Squads 770/4019
Afv 471/660
Gun 64/2248
Air 265/113
O.K.H.
p.s: Sorry rick but while cleaning up space in my yahoo mail I accidentaly erased all your amails so I don't now your amail adress... I send it to your amail writen here in matrix, but i did not get through, maybe my amail server is down. Could you please send a letter to my government amail (I'm the replying type...), as I will use that for our game now, as I don't want such thing hapening again. I'll be back wendesday and I will send you this turn then.
Clear
The onslaught has continued, as the panzers reached the outskirts of Moscow. Several soviet armies were shattered. In the Minsk area our offense continued forcing one soviet army to surrender.
Losses this week:
Axis/Soviet
Squads 770/4019
Afv 471/660
Gun 64/2248
Air 265/113
O.K.H.
p.s: Sorry rick but while cleaning up space in my yahoo mail I accidentaly erased all your amails so I don't now your amail adress... I send it to your amail writen here in matrix, but i did not get through, maybe my amail server is down. Could you please send a letter to my government amail (I'm the replying type...), as I will use that for our game now, as I don't want such thing hapening again. I'll be back wendesday and I will send you this turn then.
Stalin ordered frantic counterattacks against the enemy on forces aimed at Moscow. Although causing some losses, the attacks failed to breakthrough, leaving the enemy in ideal position to capture the heart of the communist party. Stalin has entered a bunker in the Kremlin, vowing to never leave without a victory in hand. He hopes that the west will enter the war against Germany before it is too late, as shells begin to fall all around the city.
Axis/Soviet
467/349 Squads
30/143 AFVs
444/306 Guns
201/263 Planes
Axis/Soviet
467/349 Squads
30/143 AFVs
444/306 Guns
201/263 Planes
1944.09.30.
Clear
Slowly this bloody war end's with the total victory of the german forces defending their home. This week a huge battle in land and air started in the Moscow region. At the end of the week Moscow was encircled with a steal ring of panzer korpses. Our intelliegence reports that Stalin, the bolshevik aggresor beast is sill in Moscow <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> The Luftwaffe is ordered a strict patroling of the Moscow region to stop him from escaping in the air. The desperately attacking 2 tank armies in the Moscow region surrendered this week, as did the Minsk garrison. The red air force resisted extremely heavily as they shoot down more then 700 german aircraft (mostly jets!). Some highly decorated soviet genarals are arrived behing the german fronts, for peace negotiations. They said that after Moscow falls, and Stalin dies they will have the power to negotiate a "correct" peace.
Losses this week:
Squad 493/2342
Afv 383/1046
Gun 57/1703
Air 739/1582
O.K.H.
Clear
Slowly this bloody war end's with the total victory of the german forces defending their home. This week a huge battle in land and air started in the Moscow region. At the end of the week Moscow was encircled with a steal ring of panzer korpses. Our intelliegence reports that Stalin, the bolshevik aggresor beast is sill in Moscow <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> The Luftwaffe is ordered a strict patroling of the Moscow region to stop him from escaping in the air. The desperately attacking 2 tank armies in the Moscow region surrendered this week, as did the Minsk garrison. The red air force resisted extremely heavily as they shoot down more then 700 german aircraft (mostly jets!). Some highly decorated soviet genarals are arrived behing the german fronts, for peace negotiations. They said that after Moscow falls, and Stalin dies they will have the power to negotiate a "correct" peace.
Losses this week:
Squad 493/2342
Afv 383/1046
Gun 57/1703
Air 739/1582
O.K.H.
The Red Army struck back with everything it had, and the Red Air Force threw its units into battle also. Although a few success were achieved, one rail line from the south to Moscow remains a supply line for the enemy, and an attack to open a supply corridor also failed. Snow began to fall, but it is 2 weeks too late, at least (rain would have been much better anyway).
Axis/Soviet
476/751 Squads
159/513 AFVs
835/284 Guns
337/542 Planes
Axis/Soviet
476/751 Squads
159/513 AFVs
835/284 Guns
337/542 Planes
1944.10.07.
Snow
MOSCOW HAS FALLEN!
After heavy artillery fire, the panzer korpses captured Moscow with one strike. Stalin has hesitated too long with the poison, and was captured as in the last minutes all his slaves turned against him. In Kiev a war criminal tribune will deceide over his faith in an open trial. He has to pay the prize for starting an attacking war, slaughetring innocent german infantrymen near Tilsit in beginning of the war, and for executing all captured german panzer crew (4 panzer korpses has perished in this war).
Unfortunetely this week Golikov has been killed in an airfield attack against the Kalinin front. He was the key figure in the secret peace talks, so this is a great setback. We sent the following fair peace deal to the soviets <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> :
Snow
MOSCOW HAS FALLEN!
After heavy artillery fire, the panzer korpses captured Moscow with one strike. Stalin has hesitated too long with the poison, and was captured as in the last minutes all his slaves turned against him. In Kiev a war criminal tribune will deceide over his faith in an open trial. He has to pay the prize for starting an attacking war, slaughetring innocent german infantrymen near Tilsit in beginning of the war, and for executing all captured german panzer crew (4 panzer korpses has perished in this war).
Unfortunetely this week Golikov has been killed in an airfield attack against the Kalinin front. He was the key figure in the secret peace talks, so this is a great setback. We sent the following fair peace deal to the soviets <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> :
- Zhukov, and other front commanders participating in the soviet attacking war has to be sent for a fair trial in Kiev.
- As compensation for the great german losses, Germany annexes the soviet territory to the Stalingrad, Gorki, Volgoda line (Baku oil fileds included of course).
- Sovietunion has to keep the communist party as leading power (as punishment).
- Sovietunion cannot have any aircraft (not even civil).
- Sovietunion cannot have an army, only a policeforce with a maximum of 50.000 armed men (only armed with firearms below 8 mm). No tanks allowed at all... Even taractors are banned to be sure...
- No ships are allowed for the sovietunion over 1.000 tonns. Soviet ships cannot have any arms on them.
- Any law passed has to be signed by the german minister for the defeated sovietunion to be valid.
- Sovietunion has to send an amount of the mined mineral resources to germany, which amount will be deceided in % yearly by the german minister for the defeated sovietunion (a max. of 85 % to be fair)
- As compensation for the great german losses, Germany annexes the soviet territory to the Stalingrad, Gorki, Volgoda line (Baku oil fileds included of course).
- Sovietunion has to keep the communist party as leading power (as punishment).
- Sovietunion cannot have any aircraft (not even civil).
- Sovietunion cannot have an army, only a policeforce with a maximum of 50.000 armed men (only armed with firearms below 8 mm). No tanks allowed at all... Even taractors are banned to be sure...
- No ships are allowed for the sovietunion over 1.000 tonns. Soviet ships cannot have any arms on them.
- Any law passed has to be signed by the german minister for the defeated sovietunion to be valid.
- Sovietunion has to send an amount of the mined mineral resources to germany, which amount will be deceided in % yearly by the german minister for the defeated sovietunion (a max. of 85 % to be fair)
This fair terms have been given to the soviet genarals coming to inform about possible peace.
They were surprisingly aggresive, and not too pleased about it. Our genearls had the suspesion they only did not say rude things, because they want to go back in one piece to their fronts to lead the defence to the death.
Losses this week:
Squad 242/1383
Afv 274/1225
Gun 146/1113
Air 242/429
Losses in the war
Squad 63402/165260
Afv 18252/39675
Gun 42584/97160
Air 32454/46276
O.K.H.
They were surprisingly aggresive, and not too pleased about it. Our genearls had the suspesion they only did not say rude things, because they want to go back in one piece to their fronts to lead the defence to the death.
Losses this week:
Squad 242/1383
Afv 274/1225
Gun 146/1113
Air 242/429
Losses in the war
Squad 63402/165260
Afv 18252/39675
Gun 42584/97160
Air 32454/46276
O.K.H.
Great peace conditions Tom. You've probably studied "economical wonder" phenomenon very good. I am surprized that some Hungarian people symphatize so much to USSR. I like Hungary too. Was in Budapest once. Hospitable and joyfull people.Originally posted by Tom1939:
- Zhukov, and other front commanders participating in the soviet attacking war has to be sent for a fair trial in Kiev.
- As compensation for the great german losses, Germany annexes the soviet territory to the Stalingrad, Gorki, Volgoda line (Baku oil fileds included of course).
- Sovietunion has to keep the communist party as leading power (as punishment).
- Sovietunion cannot have any aircraft (not even civil).
- Sovietunion cannot have an army, only a policeforce with a maximum of 50.000 armed men (only armed with firearms below 8 mm). No tanks allowed at all... Even taractors are banned to be sure...
- No ships are allowed for the sovietunion over 1.000 tonns. Soviet ships cannot have any arms on them.
- Any law passed has to be signed by the german minister for the defeated sovietunion to be valid.
- Sovietunion has to send an amount of the mined mineral resources to germany, which amount will be deceided in % yearly by the german minister for the defeated sovietunion (a max. of 85 % to be fair)
This was interesting game guys, thank you a lot. It was really great patriotic war in reverse with elegant and desperate Russian defense and Germans as masters of brute force. <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> Thank you for posting battle reports!
[ January 29, 2002: Message edited by: Mist ]</p>
Hi!
Well we did not like communism and socialism too much, but hungarians have no problem now with russians I think. And we fared much better in living conditions then the Sovietunion did, and the terror was much shorter by us. I think the hungarians did suffer enough to symphatize with the suffering of the ordinary soviet people, and only hate the bolschevik power, not the people suffering under it. I have to say I did not like learning russian though <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> I do not remember any russian I learned in 4 years (rebellion I gues).
I was never in Russia, but I was once in Kerch (?). It was very strange: great hotels and lot's of mandarin (which was out of supply in hungary until 90, you could buy it maybe once in 5 years), but we were completely sealed of from the local population.
This game we had was really so much fun! I was in clear advantage I have to say though, as my forces were so much stronger. But we plan a rematch, and if Rick would like it as well we will publish that one as well.
Well we did not like communism and socialism too much, but hungarians have no problem now with russians I think. And we fared much better in living conditions then the Sovietunion did, and the terror was much shorter by us. I think the hungarians did suffer enough to symphatize with the suffering of the ordinary soviet people, and only hate the bolschevik power, not the people suffering under it. I have to say I did not like learning russian though <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> I do not remember any russian I learned in 4 years (rebellion I gues).
I was never in Russia, but I was once in Kerch (?). It was very strange: great hotels and lot's of mandarin (which was out of supply in hungary until 90, you could buy it maybe once in 5 years), but we were completely sealed of from the local population.
This game we had was really so much fun! I was in clear advantage I have to say though, as my forces were so much stronger. But we plan a rematch, and if Rick would like it as well we will publish that one as well.
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Semper Fi Ricky
Hats off to a player who sticks at it to the end. (a rare thing) You did your best but now the world will not face a 'possible' nasty WW3 but a 'very likely' one.
In 5 to 10 years i can see german IRBM'S raining on New York and kriegsmarine CVN groups patrolling the atlantic.
What is worse is that the germans will have a man on the moon by 1959!! (hehe, does that say something?? I Think they could have done it.)
Loki
[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Lokioftheaesir ]</p>
Hats off to a player who sticks at it to the end. (a rare thing) You did your best but now the world will not face a 'possible' nasty WW3 but a 'very likely' one.
In 5 to 10 years i can see german IRBM'S raining on New York and kriegsmarine CVN groups patrolling the atlantic.
What is worse is that the germans will have a man on the moon by 1959!! (hehe, does that say something?? I Think they could have done it.)
Loki
[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Lokioftheaesir ]</p>
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
Thanks, it was a tough battle against the literal horders of Panthers and Me262s, but Tamas did a great job of keeping his forces under control and not allowing any serious setbacks. And the Germans probably would have been able to land 3 ships on the moon, but one would not have had oxygen (the Ferdinands), and one wouldn't have had enough fuel to return
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