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Bombur (allies) vs mapr (Japan): playtesting Bombur´s Guadalcanal scenario

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-Well, after the disastrous playtesting of my scenario against the AI, I´m back to playtest it against a human player. mapr is a skilled opponent who, for two times, was able to turn the tide against me when he was being badly beaten both in UV and WiTP. Furthermore, he never lost a long UV game, so I expect him to be a much better opponent than the AI. For those who missed my first AAR, here are the changes I made in the editor:

Guadalcanal experimental changes
v0.5
1-All bomb loads multiplied by 0,454 (so max bomber load in the screen is expressed in kilograms), except Avengers (800kg)
2-All aircraft ordnance weight multiplied by the same factor, except the torpedos (798)
3-Max AF size downsized (max. possible now is 6)
4-Didn´t change loads for Soviet aircraft as they don´t take part in the game
5-Bombload for naval attack was decreased for a max 4 bombs for all level bombers able to carry more
6-The 18in Mk12 torpedo now has a load cost of 681
7-Starting AF downsized
8-Durability for Nells and Betties decreased to 28
9-Corrected bombloads for each squadron of level bombers
v0.51
1-Shortland starting AF size increased to one
2-Accuracy for depth charges decreased by 50% (rounded to higher)
3-Effect for depth charges decreased by 50% (rounded to higher)

-As the main purpose of this AAR is to get data on my scenario, it´s possible I will give some info to mapr....[;)]
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RE: Bombur (allies) vs mapr (Japan): playtesting Bombur´s Guadalcanal scenario

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You were too kind, sometime ago I got my first loss in UV at long campaing. I certainly hope that I can give more troubles that AI.
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RE: Bombur (allies) vs mapr (Japan): playtesting Bombur´s Guadalcanal scenario

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The first day....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/04/42

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
A6M3 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 10
J1N1-R Irving x 1

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
J1N1-R Irving: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet

-Intel actually shows that we lost 4 P-40´s to enemy Zeros while our fighters shot down 1 Zero and 1 J1N1-R

-Comments:
-PM starts as a 3 size airfield. This will make level bomber operations very difficult in the early game, but it seems it wasn´t a good choice, as PM actually was a developed airfield by Aug/42. Could someone give us info on B-17´s operation from Port Moresby in the second half of 1942?
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RE: Bombur (allies) vs mapr (Japan): playtesting Bombur´s Guadalcanal scenario

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-Lots of combat in the second day[:D]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/05/42

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Some Japanese four engine seaplanes were seen over a huge USN fleet which is heading for a secret location.....
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The battle begins

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-The allied counteroffensive finally begins.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/06/42

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Sub attack at 63,82

Japanese Ships
AP Unkai Maru #3
MSW Tama Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Greenling

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Naval bombardment of Lunga, at 67,97

Allied Ships
DD Selfridge
DD Jarvis
DD Patterson
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
CL Hobart
CA Canberra
CA Australia
CA Chicago

Japanese ground losses:
294 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Lunga, at 67,97

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey
DD Wilson
DD Ellet
CA Vincennes
CA Quincy
CA Astoria

Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported

Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Tulagi, at 68,96

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
DD Monssen
CLAA San Juan

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 2

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Coastal Guns at Lunga, 67,97, firing at TF 1004
TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 67,97


11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
589 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Lunga, 67,97, firing at TF 1004
TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 67,97


35 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Bagley


Allied ground losses:
586 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Sub attack near Lunga at 67,97

Japanese Ships
SS I-123

Allied Ships
CL Hobart
DD Selfridge
DD Jarvis
DD Patterson
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
CA Chicago

-The sub survived despite he attempted to attack warships in shallow water
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
G4M1 Betty x 30
J1N1-R Irving x 1

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 13 destroyed

Allied Ships
MSW Starling, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Nabesna, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Mormacmar, Bomb hits 1
AK Robert Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Arkansan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Kohala, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
14 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet

My CAP was simply slaughtered. No less than 10 P-39´s were shot down and no Japanese planes were lost. AA fire, however, was able to shot down 2 Betties. Those damaged ships were at PM´s port.
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ASW attack near Tulagi at 68,96

Japanese Ships
SS I-122, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
AP Zeilin
AP Heywood
DMS Hovey
DMS Southard
APD McKean
APD Little
APD Gregory
APD Colhoun

-This one didn´t have the same luck. First IJN sub sunk by Allied ASW.
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Sub attack at 63,82

Japanese Ships
TK Ogura Maru #3, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Greenling

-The Tanker sank. First score for allied subs.
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Naval bombardment of Lunga, at 67,97

Allied Ships
DD Selfridge
DD Jarvis
DD Patterson
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
CL Hobart
CA Canberra
CA Australia
CA Chicago

Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Lunga, at 67,97

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey
DD Wilson
DD Ellet
CA Vincennes
CA Quincy
CA Astoria

Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Tulagi, at 68,96

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
DD Monssen
CLAA San Juan

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Port hits 1

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Coastal Guns at Tulagi, 68,96, firing at TF 1008
TF 1008 troops unloading over beach at Tulagi, 68,96


10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
186 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Lunga

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2182 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 12020 troops, 129 guns, 9 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Tulagi

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2960 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1691 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
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Bloody submarine combat

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-Day+1 of Guadalcanal invasion. Japanese attempts to attack warships in shallow waters costed them another sub, on the other hand, a much smarter attack on a CV TF results in the first allied warship sunk. Meanwhile, allied fighters are beaten again, in a confrontation with Zeros.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/07/42

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TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 67,97



Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Tulagi, 68,96, firing at TF 1008
TF 1008 troops unloading over beach at Tulagi, 68,96


37 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DMS Hovey, Shell hits 2


Allied ground losses:
236 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Lunga at 67,97

Japanese Ships
SS I-123, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Quincy
DD Hull
DD Dewey

I-123 is sunk. Up to now, Japanese lost two subs, both of them in shallow water....
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Naval bombardment of Lunga, at 67,97

Allied Ships
DD Selfridge
DD Jarvis
DD Patterson
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
CL Hobart
CA Canberra
CA Australia
CA Chicago

Japanese ground losses:
216 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Lunga, at 67,97

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey
DD Wilson
DD Ellet
CA Vincennes
CA Quincy
CA Astoria

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Tulagi, at 68,96

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
DD Monssen
CLAA San Juan

Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported

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TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 67,97



Allied ground losses:
62 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Tulagi, 68,96, firing at TF 1008
TF 1008 troops unloading over beach at Tulagi, 68,96



Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
A6M3 Zero x 4
G4M1 Betty x 29
J1N1-R Irving x 2

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 25 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet

-Total losses were 4 Zeros (in A2A combat), 2 Betties (1 Flak, 1 A2A), and 9 P-40´s for the allies (all in A2A combat)
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Sub attack at 68,98

Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Laffey, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sterett
DD Stack
DD Lang
DD Farenholt
DD Aaron Ward

DD Laffey sinks....IJN lost two subs and sank one DD. The I-16 probably suffered light damage from depth charges. It seems subs are much more dangerous than in the original WiTP scenarios. A better ASW strategy will be needed.
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Naval bombardment of Tulagi, at 68,96

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
DD Monssen
CLAA San Juan

Japanese ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Tulagi

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2784 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3917 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

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08/08/42 Lunga falls

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-Our first step in the allied counteoffensive is achieved. US Marines already control Lunga and her half completed airfield.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/08/42

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TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 67,97



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

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TF 1008 troops unloading over beach at Tulagi, 68,96



Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 64,83

Japanese Ships
ML Tsugaru

Allied Ships
SS S-38


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Ground combat at Lunga

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14564 troops, 191 guns, 19 vehicles

Defending force 3960 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 35 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Lunga base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
233 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Small surprise

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Small surprise by Japanese surface TF, could have worked out much better but it was high risk operation anyway. I once again have noticed thatJapanese engineers are not match against allied engineers, the one true über weapon allied posses.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/09/42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Tulagi at 68,96

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai, Shell hits 1
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CA Kako
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 1
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari
DD Mutsuki
DD Yayoi
DD Uzuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Kamikaze
DD Asakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Oite
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi
DD Tachikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
CLAA San Juan, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Monssen, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Buchanan, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Tulagi at 68,96

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
CA Aoba, Shell hits 2
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
CL Tenryu
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari, Shell hits 2
DD Mutsuki
DD Yayoi
DD Uzuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Kamikaze
DD Asakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Oite
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi
DD Tachikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
APD Colhoun, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Gregory
APD Little, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD McKean, Shell hits 29, and is sunk
DMS Southard, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DMS Hovey, Shell hits 1
AP Neville
AP Heywood
AP Zeilin, Shell hits 2

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Day Air attack on TF at 67,95

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 60

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 16 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Bomb hits 1
DD Uzuki, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kinugasa, Bomb hits 2
DD Oite, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Kako
CA Furutaka, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Tenryu, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yuzuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tatsuta, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 67,95

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 16

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kinugasa, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Mochizuki

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Day Air attack on TF at 67,95

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 17

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
CA Kako
CA Aoba, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kamikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Tulagi at 68,96

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
APD Gregory
AP Zeilin
DMS Hovey
AP Neville

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Day Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 67,97

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Helm, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 67,97

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Bellatrix
DD Bagley

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Day Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 67,97

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
G4M1 Betty x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 16 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Jarvis
CA Chicago, Torpedo hits 1
CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 1
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Disaster....for both sides????

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-Well, it seems my enemy already told you about the terrible events of 09/08/42. A IJN surface TF was able to reach Tulagi undetected and launched a devastating attack againt local USN forces. Cruisers in Guadalcanal failed to react to the enemy. We lost 1 CLAA, 2 DD, 3 APD and 1 DMS. The action could had ended in a big victory to IJN, if it wasn´t for one small detail. It seems the Japanese admiral became too enthusiastic with his target practice on small allied ships and his forces retreated too late. When the day came, they were at range of our dive bombers. The unfortunate ships suffered massive atacks from USN carriers. Only one CL (Tenryu) sank, however, at least three heavy cruisers suffered serious damage and we sincerely hope that one or two will sink while going back to the homebase. Meanwhile, Betties achieved some success against surface ships in Guadalcanal. The day seem to have ended with a Japanese victory, but crippled ships from both sides are still making their way back to home ports. Another noticeable detail is that F4F´s failed to intercept enemy Betties, althought they were only one hex from their targets, however, those fragile bombers suffered some losses too. No less than 7 Betties were lost to AA fire.
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The battle of Tulagi: the day after

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/10/42

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ASW attack at 68,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
AP Heywood
AP Neville
DMS Hovey
APD Gregory

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ASW attack at 68,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
DMS Hovey
APD Gregory

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-The fleeing IJN cruisers are still in range of my SBD´s, but now they had to attack with 500lb bombs. To our great dissapointment, it seems Japanese heavy cruisers are virtually impervious to our smaller bombs. The Aoba took now less than 24 direct hits withouth any penetration (althought its superstructure was devastated and lots of weapons systems were destroyed). On the other hand, the IJN light cruiser Tatsuta was sunk, increasing Japanese losses to 2 CL´s.

Day Air attack on TF, near Rekata Bay at 66,94

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
SBD Dauntless x 53

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tatsuta, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Rekata Bay at 66,94


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
SBD Dauntless x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Rekata Bay at 66,94


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 24


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tatsuta, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack at 66,93

Japanese Ships
DD Oite

Allied Ships
SS Grayback

-Notice that there were lots of Subs/ASW combat withouth losses. It seems the new sub warfare system is working.

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RE: The battle of Tulagi: the day after

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-So the amphibious assault on Tulagi and Guadalcanal is over. US Navy suffered relatively heavy losses, but also inflicted some pain on the enemy fleet. Ships retreated in good order and there was some submarine action. Japan lost its first submarine in deep water, while the USN had another DD mortally wounded. The first assault on Tulagi failed. Intel is investigating what happened with damaged IJN cruisers. A radio intercept suggested that Aoba´s commander gave order to abandon ship.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/11/42

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ASW attack at 68,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-121, hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey

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Sub attack at 68,98

Japanese Ships
SS I-11, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Russell, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD Stringham
APD Manley
DD Mahan
DD Hughes

-The DD will sink, the sub survived to fight another day. Score up to now (and considering this ship as sunk). USN subs sank a TK with no losses. IJN subs sank 2 DD with 3 losses.
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Ground combat at Tulagi

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4396 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4259 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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RE: The battle of Tulagi: the day after

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-DD Russell sank, as expected. The enemy is flying sweep missions over Port Moresby. Four P-39´s and 2 Zeros lost in air combat.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/12/42

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Day Air attack on Kure 3rd SNLF, at 68,96


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 6 destroyed

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RE: The battle of Tulagi: the day after

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-From now we are switching to 1.50. Let us see what the combination of 1.50 with my mod will do...
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RE: The battle of Tulagi: the day after

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-Some action this turn. The Japanese attempted to attack PM with poorly escorted Betties, resulting in the loss of 20 of these fragile planes. In Tulagi, another assualt failed. B-17´s are flying Ground support missions from Lungaville with moderate success.
-Two notes:
1-Why the Japanese don´t have replacements for combat LCU´s in Guadalcanal scenario?????
2-Under 1.5 combat reports are much better. The combat report screen showed exactly the number of planes shot down....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/13/42

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G4M1 Betty x 48
J1N1-R Irving x 2

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 20 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Kure 3rd SNLF, at 68,96


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Tulagi

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4278 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3955 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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RE: The battle of Tulagi: the day after

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-Good news. Intel confirms the sinking of CA Aoba and DD Uzuki. The ships were unable to reach Rabaul, it seems...things are even better after Japan lost another sub. The agressive Japanese strategy of using the subs against heavily escorted carriers groups costed them 2 subs, but also allowed them to sink a DD. If they manage to sink or damage heavily even one carrier they will be successful.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/14/42

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ASW attack at 71,104

Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 6, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Selfridge
DD Jarvis
DD Patterson
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
CL Hobart

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Day Air attack on Kure 3rd SNLF, at 68,96


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Submarine bloodbath

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-A day of heavy submarine activity. An USA cruiser was heavily damage (and almost certainly is lost), while the Japanese lost more three subs and had a fourth damaged. Losses for the Japanese are 7 subs vs. 2 DD and 1 CA (assuming it will sink). On the other hand, two USA groups with orders to bombard Tulagi and Tassafaronga failed to accomplish their missions, I don´t know why. One of these groups had orders set to patrol/not retire by mistake, this resulted in some attacks by Rabaul based Betties, but the CAP from Saratoga saved the day. Finally, after the carnage of two days ago, Betties paid a visit to Port Moresby, this time escorted by lots of Zeros. The enemy is flying Zeros from Lae too. The PM CAP was decimated. No less than 11 P-39 shot down, for the loss of 4 Betties and 2 Zeros. Another assault on Tulagi failed.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/15/42

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Sub attack at 69,101

Japanese Ships
SS I-12

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage (85 flt damage and 22 fire level, will her sink????)
DD Dale
DD Worden
DD MacDonough
DD Farragut
DD Phelps

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Sub attack at 67,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-171, hits 2, heavy damage (sub survived, it seems)

Allied Ships
DD Dewey
DD Hull
DD Wilson
DD Ellet

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Sub attack at 70,102

Japanese Ships
SS RO-67, hits 5, on fire, heavy damage (sub lost)

Allied Ships
DD Gwin
DD Balch
DD Benham
DD Maury
DD Grayson

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Sub attack at 69,100

Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (sub lost)

Allied Ships
DD Gridley
DD Fanning
DD Dunlap
DD McCall
DD Walke
DD O'Brien

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Sub attack at 68,99

Japanese Ships
SS RO-68, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage (sub lost)

Allied Ships
DD Dale
DD Worden
DD MacDonough
DD Farragut

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Sub attack at 62,82

Japanese Ships
AP Kumakawa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pickerel

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

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Day Air attack on Kure 3rd SNLF, at 68,96


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tassafaronga at 66,97

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
G4M1 Betty x 11

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Quincy

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
A6M3 Zero x 15
G4M1 Betty x 49
J1N1-R Irving x 1

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 6 destroyed

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tassafaronga at 66,97

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Quincy

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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ASW attack at 68,98

Japanese Ships
SS I-11, hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Dale
DD Worden
DD MacDonough
DD Farragut
DD Phelps


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Ground combat at Tulagi

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4366 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3690 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported

-A comment: I changed the accuracy and damage made by depth charges, but it seems all I got was an increased efficacy of submarine attacks. It´s possible that this bloody combat is the result of agressive use of subs by mapr, the route from Guadalcanal to Lungaville is infested with dozens of submarines. I don´t know how these ships were used in Guadalcanal, but it seems the Japanese were somewhat cautious with them.
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RE: Submarine bloodbath

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Bombur,
I read in some other post regarding depth charge (device) accuracy that the lower the number, the more accurate the weapon. You might increase the accuracy and see what that does.

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RE: Submarine bloodbath

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ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

Bombur,
I read in some other post regarding depth charge (device) accuracy that the lower the number, the more accurate the weapon. You might increase the accuracy and see what that does.

bc


-I think this is not correct, because (1) in the database, Japanese depth charges have lower accuracy values and (2) latter allied depth charge (Mk9) has a very high accuracy value. But I can make some tests with this, if you think this hypothesis could be true. However, I have the impression that subs are now less vulnerable, when looking at individual combats (they sometimes survive). What seems to happen is that (1) this changes were still not enough and (2) my opponent is very agressive. My TBF´s are doing ASW flights and the hexes surrounding my carriers are full of submarines, the trouble is that these carriers are heavily defended by escorts and there is an ASW TF with them. I estimate that 3/8 subs lost by mapr were hit in attacks vs. CV TF´s and another 2 in shallow waters. If he used his subs more cautiously he, maybe, could get less losses (and somewhat less victories). Look to the fact that, while his losses were high, he was able to sink no more than 3 fast warships in two weeks.
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RE: Submarine bloodbath

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-Japan lost the 8th submarine in a heroic attempt to attack US carriers. Vals escorted by A6M3 attacked PM from Lae. P-39´s shot down one Zero (with one loss for themselves) and flak shot down 3 Vals. Minneapolis sank due to damage caused by an enemy submarine yesterday.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/16/42

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ASW attack at 68,98

Japanese Ships
SS I-11, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage (SUNK)

Allied Ships
DD Dale

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ASW attack at 63,83

Japanese Ships
ML Ma 2

Allied Ships
SS S-41

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 15
D3A Val x 22

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kure 3rd SNLF, at 68,96


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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ASW attack at 62,82

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 6
PC Ch 16
PC Ch 17
PC Ch 18
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 32
DD Tachikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
SS Pickerel


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Ground combat at Tulagi

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4276 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3506 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
143 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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The empire counterattacks?

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-Strange things are happening. My submarines are detecting heavy naval activity South of Truk. Lots of DD´s, CA´s and transports are moving South, no Carriers or Battleships detected. Furthermore, a lonely ML attempted a sucide mission near Guadalcanal. Is the enemy using his ships to spend my air ordnance? If he is doing this, he got a big success. No less than 98 SBD´s were ordered to attack the target.......aircrews onboard the carriers were placed on maximum alert for a possible CV vs. CV battle. But there are also good news. Another sqadron of P-39´s arrived in PM and was able to defeat a small enemy raid by sheer numbers. My fighter shot down 4 A6M3 and 1 Val, losing 3 P-39´s.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/17/42

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 5
D3A Val x 2

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 4 destroyed
D3A Val: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 67,95


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 98


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
ML Hirashima, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 63,83

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Seikai Maru
PC Ch 5
PC Ch 4
PC Ch 12
PC Ch 11
PC Ch 10
PC Tama Maru #8
PC Toshi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS S-41

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