attempt to create balanced scenario'41

Lokioftheaesir · Post by **Lokioftheaesir** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 3:42 pm

Originally posted by BrickReid:

Just a little tinsy weensie piece of advice. DON'T GIVE UP YOUR FIRST TURN FOR REARRANGING YOUR ARMY! Ok, whew. Wait until you have to stop the first time and wait for your supplies to catch up. If you miss those initial cutoffs you will have to face all those guys + all their buddies that you have to face later anyway. You MUST kill the tanks, arty, and AT. The infantry is not so important because the Soviets never run out of them anyway, but the hardware shortage you can impose is critical to denying the enemy the ability of effective combined arms operations. Just my opinion. Good luck. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Brick

This is a scenerio of 22 turns only.(i thought it was a full game up untill late August).If it was a full game then i would have been going for a'42 victory and my choice would have been valid. But it is not and now i pay the price(a draw) ........ oh well.

Nick

vlar · Post by **vlar** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:38 pm

Mist
are you sure about these figures?
i know the luftwaffe had 2500 planes at the start of the battle of britain and the germans produced a total of 8070 planes. in your scenario the luftwaffe starts with 1900 planes. even considering the losses during the battle of britain and the aircraft sent to the west and africa the germans should have a lot more planes.

Kuniworth · Post by **Kuniworth** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:42 pm

Nope I agree with Mist on this one.

screamer · Post by **screamer** » Thu Jan 10, 2002 12:21 am

WAAAHHHH man i was playing against the computer in the 1941 scen i just had 6turns of mud in oktober germans attack my level8entrenchment frontlean west of moskow AND SHATTER 20ARMIES!! i lost 20000squads that turn in a blizzard i had only lost 5000aircraft 20000squads and 6000tanks

explanation plz

vlar · Post by **vlar** » Thu Jan 10, 2002 3:38 pm

Nope I agree with Mist on this one.

If that's a reply to my post do you have any proof ot that?

Mist · Post by **Mist** » Thu Jan 10, 2002 7:29 pm

Originally posted by Pirate:

If that's a reply to my post do you have any proof ot that?

"KG-2 unit history" by Balke. There is at least one internet source with exact number of operational/damaged planes and their types in every airgroup unit by unit at 21st June '41. Though I don't remember its address right now. This source refers to Balke's book.

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Josans · Post by **Josans** » Thu Jan 10, 2002 11:19 pm

Mist, are we finished the playtesting of your campaign? Well, if really began...

Mist · Post by **Mist** » Fri Jan 11, 2002 3:27 pm

Originally posted by Josan:
Mist, are we finished the playtesting of your campaign? Well, if really began...

Josan, I am extremely sorry. I need some more time to make a turn. The problem is that I can't save in between of making a turn. So, I need continous period of time approximately four hours to reorganize collapsing Soviet front. I beg your pardon. I was very busy on my work after all vacances and celebrations. I will send you a turn as soon as possible.

Josans · Post by **Josans** » Fri Jan 11, 2002 4:04 pm

Originally posted by Mist:

Josan, I am extremely sorry. I need some more time to make a turn. The problem is that I can't save in between of making a turn. So, I need continous period of time approximately four hours to reorganize collapsing Soviet front. I beg your pardon. I was very busy on my work after all vacances and celebrations. I will send you a turn as soon as possible.

OK Mist take your time to make the turn. I did not have any new from you from December and I thought that all was finished.

Btw do you like the new german initial attack I did ? or do you prefer the first one?
The breaktrought in the South with the new attack the germans can get profit of that I believe but I destroyed 1000 planes less than old attack.

Mist · Post by **Mist** » Fri Jan 11, 2002 4:40 pm

Originally posted by Josan:

OK Mist take your time to make the turn. I did not have any new from you from December and I thought that all was finished.

It will be finished only when Hitler will be dead and his army turn into frozen bodies! <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

Btw do you like the new german initial attack I did ? or do you prefer the first one?
The breaktrought in the South with the new attack the germans can get profit of that I believe but I destroyed 1000 planes less than old attack.

Initial attack was stunning. I did not expect it to be so much successfull. Mech. corpses near Lvov are doomed, as well as Odessa. Those 5 free panzer korps slots are a real curse. I wonder why Germans did not use them in WWII.