CoG vs. EiA

[nukkxx5058]

Hi,
Who could list the main differences between those two games ?
thx

[Le Tondu]

Here is the main difference, in my opinion.

EiA is being strictly based upon an old & worn out boardgame.

CoG isn't.

[sol_invictus]

EiA is more of a Grand Diplo/Strategic game suited much more toward playing with actual people; it would loose all of it's appeal if played solo imo. CoG is more like a standard Strategic/Operational wargame that I think will be excellently suited for solo play.

[nukkxx5058]

ok I see... in fact I never played EIA board game but what I read sounds good! not too "old or worn" .

I have a good idea of what will be CoG (a much more standard grand-strategy computer game I think).

[Le Tondu]

The word "standard" I believe should not apply to CoG. It appears to really be in depth Napoleonicly speaking. Far more than EiA.
[:)]

[sol_invictus]

True, standard probably wasn't an appropriate word to describe CoG. I stand corrected. It certainly seems like it will be the most in-depth treatment of the Napoleonic Era on PC or in a board game. Highly anticipated; in a non-standard kind of way.[;)]

[pasternakski]

Looks to me like some diddly little battle-sized game that tries to lard strategic mechanics on top.

I'm still waiting for EiA.

[Le Tondu]

To each their own, I always say.
[:)]

[Uncle_Joe]

One major difference is that it appears that CoG might actually be released this century!

I know I've almost given up on EiA. I started following it last spring. At that time, they were shooting for a later Summer/early Fall (04) release...then Thanksgiving...then Xmas...then January...now its 'whenever'.

I truly hope they finally get it together, but I'm now more looking forward to CoG and if EiA makes it out, great...then I'll look into it again then. But usually games with troubled development cycles like this end up cutting corners at the end or going so far over budget that there is little or no (much needed) post release support. In other words...games that are delayed and delayed often end up as bitter disappointments. I'm hoping that doesnt happen to EiA, but I'm now pinning my Napoleonic hopes on CoG (after having tried both Cossacks and Imperial Glory and not finding much with either).

[2gaulle]

It appears to really be in depth Napoleonicly speaking. Far more than EiA.

[:-]so far for what I have read about tactical battle (and I will not speack of those ridiculous uniform) COG look like very very far from Napoloenic area.

hopefully we will have at leat one good tactical game this year whis Black Powder Wars

[Zap]

I hope that is not the case.

I'm looking for the more in depth game faithful to Napoleanic era.
Most of the post I've seen seem to think this is the case with this game. That is, it will be in depth.

[wodin]

I can never understand why someone who doesnt like the look of a game in development would continue to post constantly on the forum on why they dont like it.

If I were todo that I'd be registered on every forum known to man and be moaning constantly until the day I fie.

[Pippin]

I'm hoping that doesnt happen to EiA, but I'm now pinning my Napoleonic hopes on CoG (after having tried both Cossacks and Imperial Glory and not finding much with either).

Cossacks was not interesting to me either.

[nukkxx5058]

But cossaks is an arcade game. It's close to warcraft.
it has nothing to do with turn based historical grand-strategy games ..

[nukkxx5058]

ORIGINAL: wodin

I can never understand why someone who doesnt like the look of a game in development would continue to post constantly on the forum on why they dont like it.

If I were todo that I'd be registered on every forum known to man and be moaning constantly until the day I fie.

I tend to agree with that ...

[Le Tondu]

ORIGINAL: 2gaulle

so far for what I have read about tactical battle (and I will not speack of those ridiculous uniform) COG look like very very far from Napoloenic area.

hopefully we will have at leat one good tactical game this year whis Black Powder Wars

Yeah, the uniforms suck, but that is only a VERY small (almost tiny) part of this game. It shouldn't be shot down because of it. With the possibility of modding, it is almost non issue.

There is so much going for it. Check it out : http://www.west-civ.com/
[:)]

[2gaulle]

Yeah, the uniforms suck, but that is only a VERY small (almost tiny) part of this game. It shouldn't be shot down because of it. With the possibility of modding, it is almost non issue.

uniform is one but the biggest problem is the resolution of the tactical battle.

So far we know nothing, or so few, about the strategic/diplomatic part of the game and when we have some detail there is a lot od reason to be septic

the relation between the number of elite/guard and the overall army moral have nothing to do with napoleonic period, don't thing the austrian army had the best moral.

[Le Tondu]

Have some patience 2gaulle. Please. [:)]

I am in certain that in time you will learn all you need to know. (We all will.) ----and then you can decide to buy it or not.
[:)]

[Panzeh]

I don't see where you got 'the austrian army had the best morale'.. I haven't seen that posted..

[2gaulle]

ORIGINAL: Panzeh

I don't see where you got 'the austrian army had the best morale'.. I haven't seen that posted..

I don't see where you got 'the austrian army had the best morale'.. I haven't seen that posted..

because an army without guard/elite have a better moral than other army as more you have guard/elite less your overall army have a good moral