demise of board games?

[Sarge]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

I had no idea there was such a thing as board wargaming until a friend of mine brought "Gettysburg" AH to school during our last week of school in the 6th grade and I was intrigued by the counters and map board. That one session lead to buying more wargames and also discovering the world of APBA baseball from my older brother. Now I play OOTPB 6.0 and wargames and strategy games.

APBA Baseball is what started my interest in wargames .
I went into a hobby shop as a kid one day to pick up a new edition of APBA, and spotted SL on the shelf and took a chance

I can remember studying and memorizing the rules for weeks after picking it over APBA, I was addicted to the depth of the game.
As it turned out only one of my buddies had any interest in such a board game that made you use your brain and use real strategy to win.

I picked up Memoir 44 at Xmas for my son, whom just turned 9.Who has shown interest in some of my games on my PC CMAK,HTTR. As it turned out his interest in wargames was only due to his uncle being deployed in Iraq and the board game was only a flash in the pan, and soon went back to the Xbox and Tony Hawk

I tried [:(]

[Sarge]

@ Zap

PS: take a look at Pure Sim Baseball, well worth the FREE D/L

[ravinhood]

and soon went back to the Xbox and Tony Hawk

If you want your child to become a wargamer, never buy them a console.

My son got into rpg games because when he was young I let him sit on my lap and press the commodore 64 keys while I was playing Ulitima II, he won't play a wargame, unless it is "fantasy" based. He likes the Warlords and Heroes of Might & Magic series and Age of Wonders, and simply LOVES "Master of Magic" but, do you think he will sit down and play any "real" wargames? lol Not on your life. But, at least I broke him away from Mario Karts and nintendo games. He plays all the rpg games that are released, Diablos, Neverwinter Nights, Morrowind, and played four years of Everquest. But, nary a real wargame. I messed up.

The way I see it, it is true, you can mold a child in their early years of what type of gamer they will become. While growing up I got electric football and baseball games and chess and checkers games and monopoly and mouse trap and LEGGO blocks and tinker toys lol, so it was only natural for me to like "strategy, sim and sports games". I also got electric car racing sets and electric railroads, but, for some reason I don't like computer racing games, mainly because I suck at them, lol someone needs to make an electric car racing game for the computer, I'm pretty good at pressing the button all the way down.

I find myself buying any "sim" type game, I like constructing things (leggo blocks did that to me probably).

I had to buy every wargame I got though, my mom didn't seem to approve of buying them for me for christmas for some strange reason, she was stuck on buying electric racing sets or new cars for them nearly every christmas. Musta been easy for her to find them.

I'd really enjoy someone making the Milton Bradley American Heritage games for the computer, those would be great "entry level games" for those new to computer wargaming. We got Axis & Allies, but, there's (3) of the American Heritage series that would be great also. "Battle-Cry, "Broadsides" and "Dogfight". Simple to learn and play and a heck of a lot of fun when you are 12.

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

I'd really enjoy someone making the Milton Bradley American Heritage games for the computer, those would be great "entry level games" for those new to computer wargaming. We got Axis & Allies, but, there's (3) of the American Heritage series that would be great also. "Battle-Cry, "Broadsides" and "Dogfight". Simple to learn and play and a heck of a lot of fun when you are 12.

And don't forget the "American Civil War" game in that series! Broadsides was great... loved the little ships and how you removed their sails as they took hits. Dogfight was so quick and easy to play!

Yes, we did to bring these back for the "younger set" to cut their teeth on.

I think I still have those games down in my storage boxes.

[ravinhood]

And don't forget the "American Civil War" game in that series!

Heh, Rhonda, "Battle-Cry" IS the American Civil War game in that series. ;o)

[Zap]

Sarge I would be interested in D/L. the Sim . Where do you find it

[Zap]

Battle Cry, had the little grey and blue plastic pieces molded in the form of a soldier and cannons, right? Yes those were fun games.
If Xbox and all those games that give you a headache because of the furious speed of play are dulling the minds of the kids. Then I would be worried for the future of the wargamer. Board games will be the first casuality, then the computer wargame the next. Is my optimism just a fanasy in my own mind? Maybe we are becoming an extinct breed.

[ravinhood]

Well I blame some of you guys if wargaming dies, if you have children anyway. heh

It's up to us to keep it alive, if you don't have children goto an orphanage and be a big brother and teach them wargaming. Then they'll go back to the orphanage and tell all their buddies and we could have a mass reproduction of the wargaming genre.

If you are only a teenager or young adult, just remember what you teach your children someday stays with them forever, soooooooo, if you buy them those LOUSY console games, it's your fault wargaming died.

[Sarge]

ORIGINAL: Zap

Sarge I would be interested in D/L. the Sim . Where do you find it

**LINK**

[Zap]

we could have a mass reproduction of the wargaming genre

It would take a lot of people interested in the strateghy wargame to equal the sales of let's say a, "Call of Duty" 8 million copies. I don't know if that is possible but I would be happy with a million more.

P.S how do you get the white boxes to encapsulate others peoples quotes

[Sarge]

ORIGINAL: Zap

P.S how do you get the white boxes to encapsulate others peoples quotes

Click the quote button in the upper right corner of the forum members post.

[ravinhood]

Hrmmm I don't know about the rest of em, but, I highlight the sentence I want to quote with blue (holding down the left mouse button while dragging it across the sentence(s), then click on the reply button in the persons post and it brings that sentence into my text message box in quotes.

[Zap]

I highlight the sentence I want to quote with blue (holding down the left mouse button while dragging it across the sentence(s), then click on the reply button in the persons post and it brings that sentence into my text message box in quotes.

Ravinhood I tried yours, it works simple enough, I appreciate the help.

[Zap]

ORIGINAL: Sarge



P.S how do you get the white boxes to encapsulate others peoples quotes

Click the quote button in the upper right corner of the forum members post.
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Sarge,I tried your way Ooops!I have to get more directions Sarge, seems I did something wrong using your method!

I wanted to put "Click the quote button in the upper right corner of the forum members post." in quotes

[coregames]

ORIGINAL: Zap

we could have a mass reproduction of the wargaming genre

It would take a lot of people interested in the strateghy wargame to equal the sales of let's say a, "Call of Duty" 8 million copies. I don't know if that is possible but I would be happy with a million more.

Once computers are more commonplace, and the novelty of them has worn off somewhat, I do believe boardgaming will make a resurgence. As I stated earlier in this thread, the genre has already had tremendous growth over the last few years, and I prefer to identify this as a backlash to some extent; as computers infiltrate our professional lives, more and more people would rather escape from them in our recreational lives.

Veldor and I had some pretty heated debate on this topic in this thread, but when we both realized that our terminology was confusing us, we essentially agreed. Computers are not going away, and boardgaming must embrace the technology to make the next step. This could be in the form of games that use physical pieces on a variable computer monitor board with sensors. By this, many of the important aspects of boardgaming would be revitalized, such as direct face-to-face social interaction over a table, and the tactile variety of not having to use the same mouse over-and-over again for every move in every game.

What reminded me of this thread was watching some kids playing HeroClix and MageKnight, games with miniatures that incorporate counter devices on their bases. Wouldn't it be cool to have clickable buttons on miniatures, so that they were essentially dedicated cordless mice? Roleplaying games and traditional miniatures gaming would be revolutionized by the elimination of paper/pencil requirements... then the entire tabletop could be devoted to the board (and softdrinks of course).

[parusski]

WOW. I just finished reading the entire thread and I am astounded. The animosity is uncalled for folks. We are all gamers so those of you attacking each other should really take a deep breath and relax.

I love both board games and computer games: each has its negatives and positives. Deal with them.
Jeez.

[mogami]

ORIGINAL: pasternakski

ORIGINAL: Veldor
So I leave this debate to the rest of you...

Thank you, Mr. Know-it-all.

Hi, Hey quit throwing my title around. I am Mr. Know-it-all. Have been since I was around 10 years old. Except for on-line where I've been Mogami my nickname among friends is Bullwinkle. If you went to the VFW and asked "Have you seen Russ Neer or Mogami" no one would know who you meant. If you asked "Have you seen Bullwinkle" everyone would know who you meant. (and they would tell you if I was not there I could only be at one of two other places. At home on my computer or at Bears drinking his beer.

[coregames]

ORIGINAL: parusski

WOW. I just finished reading the entire thread and I am astounded. The animosity is uncalled for folks. We are all gamers so those of you attacking each other should really take a deep breath and relax.

I love both board games and computer games: each has its negatives and positives. Deal with them.
Jeez.

I thought my post was polite... I'm surprised you would respond like that to what I said, especially since everything else in this thread is months old.

[parusski]

sorry coregames. I did not mean to reply to your post. Your post was polite. Sometimes I am months behind in posting, it takes me a long time to process what I read.

[Fred98]

ORIGINAL: Nobody in Particular
How do you “quote” other posters?

Click on the button labelled “quote”

In the box, highlight everything.

Open a Word document and choose “Edit – Paste Special – Unformatted Text”

Write your message. Check the grammar and spelling

Then copy and paste back into the forum.

Use "preview post".

If its OK, then post