Sicilians and Lybians, what a brave bunch

[Drax Kramer]

I guess I was "victim" of changed rules for Italian surrender. I was playing Soviets in 1941 scenario and managed not only to clear the Balkans, but to export the bolshevism into Italy as well. First northern, then southern part of the Italian boot fell. To my astonishment, I noticed that somehow, in the previous turn, German AI dropped an airborne unit to Lybia and voila, Mussolini established himself in Sicily and together with Lybia preserved Italy in war together with whole of Italian fleet, stuck in Adriatic for lack of supplies. Naturally, Allied AI couldn't care less about Italy, so Mussolini outlived Hitler.

Is it possible to remove Lybia from the list of required territories so that Italy actually surrenders when its mainland is conquered?

Or at least, replace Sicily with Sardinia. Sardinia is always invaded by AI due to its resource there (I wonder what does it represent), but Sicily is not high on the priority list.


Drax

[5cats]

While watching the AI play (I was playing Japan, eh?) the WA captured enough to make Italy surrender, then left a Militia there. When Germany eventually re-captured North & South Italy, presto! the whole Italian fleet was re-born in S.Italy! (it had been hiding in S.Italy since turn 3 I think...)
Is that a Bug?? Anyone???

[MButtazoni]

hmmmm


let me check on that

[Joel Billings]

Did you actually see a surrender message for Italy?

[MButtazoni]

I just tried to recreate the situation where Germany reconquered Italy and i did not see any Italian Navy come back into the game.

I’m wondering now if Italy did not surrender and the ships were in another port somewhere and came out to sea on the turn that GE took back Italy.

[a511]

after reading this thread, i have the luck to try the scenario in real life case ... and really hoping that the bug will truely save my game ... but it didnt [:(]
either the bug only takes effect under AI or there is no such bug at all.

[5cats]

AS I recall, there was about 2-3 turns between WA capture & German liberation of Italy. They were both AI, Germany & WA...
The Italian fleet was holed up in S.Italy for almost the whole game, but might have re-deployed to N.Italy when S.Italy was captured (and then Italy surrendered). The WA knocked out N.Italy next turn, abandoned Italy alltogether the turn after that, the Germans re-took N.Italy & then S.Italy the following turn. It was then that the fleet re-appeared in S.Italy.