When you surface...

[Erik Rutins]

I've seen a bunch of orders go through already, so those of you that already have it -- when you surface from your first campaign please post your impressions for the forum! Thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

[ibalkid]

Howdy im new to the DBS. Bought Korsun a few days ago after playing a hotseat game with a wargaming friend of mine. Woah, instantly hooked. Bought Korsun and Across the dniepr right when i got home. Was about to purchase BIN JUST NOW when lo and behold i see BII is out for digital down load. Crap i think to myself as i will have some explaining to do with the long hair general when she sees the Visa statement! Oh well plenty of time to formulate a plan for that battle, my question for today is how stable is BII? I do not mind instability in games as complex as these, and actually look forward to many future patches, but with all the new Decisive battle games i just got,should i wait to buy BII or just bite the bullet and get BII along with BIN? Is there a Special price for buying bothI[;)]?, Or all of them with a 2 day period! [;)] Cant blame a chap for trying!


As i said i dont mind a little instability and have come to expect it from games such as these, its also fun to be part of the bug fixing problem. Its jsut that i have not had any prior experience inregards to buying a new release from SSG, so i have no point of refernce inregards to the status of your games upon launch.

Thanks in advance!

[JSS]

ibalkid,

SSG games tend to be very stable at release. In terms of game play I can't recall a single problem in any of the DBWWII releases that prevented the v1.00 games from working well. A lot of the patch work added features or fully implemented certain features.

JSS

[ibalkid]

Too late already bought it(both actually)

Getting ready to download now.

I actually have a lot more faith in the smaller Developers then i do the big boys. I play a lot of Paradox titles and have beta'd for HOI and Victoria, and from first hand experience i see just how much a small Game developer values their games fans. I have noticed that Game Devs such as SSG or Paradox actually talk to the forumers and fans/ and play games with them, which in turn really helps the product become better, with a longer play life. It also promotes a very positive community which is very important to me as i prefer to play against warm meat as oppoed to the ai. ( The ai doesnt seem to be affected by my taunting even as i pick hapless frenchmen from the treads of my Panzer, how am i to gloat then?)

Well i am off to further darken the circles under my eyes and deprive myself of even more sleep. I may be delerious at work again tommorow and respond to a coworkers query with, "Watch your flank!" but i cant seem to help myself, thanks for the great games, just wish i would have looked into the series sooner.

[Adam Parker]

Very nice toned down colorings of the ocean and shoreline over BiN.

Players of BiN can basically jump straight in. Sicily gives a sense of arrogance as the Allies, having conquered Normandy if a veteran of that game but I feel this sensation will soon be misplaced amidst the most rugged terrain on earth.

Interface first up looks comfortably exact to BiN other than the "show transports" button. So I'll be delving into the rules to double check for any changes awaiting the unwary!

Adam.

[TheHellPatrol]

ORIGINAL: Adam Parker

Very nice toned down colorings of the ocean and shoreline over BiN.

Players of BiN can basically jump straight in. Sicily gives a sense of arrogance as the Allies, having conquered Normandy if a veteran of that game but I feel this sensation will soon be misplaced amidst the most rugged terrain on earth.

Interface first up looks comfortably exact to BiN other than the "show transports" button. So I'll be delving into the rules to double check for any changes awaiting the unwary!

Adam.

Keep it coming Adam, due to "unknown" problems i am unable to download my purchase at the moment so i hope to at least "read" about BiI[:D].
UPDATE: Resolved![:D]

[Adam Parker]

Very cool. It took me 5 hours to download on high speed ADSL and I was bone tired at the end but I loaded up the Sicily campaign, looked around, logged out, went to turn the PC off to go to bed, smirked, loaded the game up and played 2 turns [:D]

I'm remarkably refreshed this morning [:'(]

[aysi]

Adam
how come the download took five hours,downloading now at a cool 220kb\sec,I know its was slow with my other games but not 5 hrs,must be an aussie thing

[Hard Sarge]

Hi Erik
well so far in the Husky campaign, it has been interesting, turn 8 and I as the Allies have a 195 point lead

I was able to trap 2 Regs of the German Paras and a Pzgr Reg on the coast, and took them out

plus HG has taken some good losses, with 1 Reg gone

the Yanks are kind of stuck, but giving better then they are taking, and the Brits are rushing up the coast (really, want to swing them westard and try and trap the Germen troops holding the Yanks, but don't think that is the idea)

be nice if I could move some of my support ships

overall, looks pretty good

HARD_Sarge

[Gregor_SSG]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

Hi Erik
well so far in the Husky campaign, it has been interesting, turn 8 and I as the Allies have a 195 point lead

I was able to trap 2 Regs of the German Paras and a Pzgr Reg on the coast, and took them out

plus HG has taken some good losses, with 1 Reg gone

the Yanks are kind of stuck, but giving better then they are taking, and the Brits are rushing up the coast (really, want to swing them westard and try and trap the Germen troops holding the Yanks, but don't think that is the idea)

be nice if I could move some of my support ships

overall, looks pretty good

HARD_Sarge

You can move your ships, but only on the historical date on which it was judged safe to do so. For the British Commonwealth this is Turn 19, for the US its Turn 20. At these times the sealanes are extended.

Gregor

[Hard Sarge]

Roger, understood that part, but would be nice to be able to follow the advance a little closer

(those strong points are a pain)

(by the by, how strong are these strong pionts suppost to be, pretty sad when a full Div with supporting Arty is not strong enough to attack a "strongpoint")


in hindsight, looks like the Allies gave the strights (spelling) too much respect, they let too many troops in and too many troops out, for what the Axis could really do to stop them

this was a really interesting battle, with the Allies having all the advantages but the Germens showing all the skill, the two pretty much unknown commanders did a great job during the battle

HARD_Sarge

have waited a long time to be able to try and "fight" this battle in a good game

[Johnus]

Up to turn 12 on my first invasion of Sicily as Allies. I'm behind 200 points!! I tried a sort of blitzkrieg and the AI has made me pay for each over-extension. Clearly, spreading out and advancing as far as possible on all fronts does not work here. I suppose a conservative, watch your flanks, methodical advance is more in order. Ala the actual campaign. I expect Italy itself will be even worse. So far, very historical. Nice job guys.

[TeTeT]

Over the weekend I completed the Husky operation as Allied. To my big surprise I won decisively, having destroyed all Axis forces on the island and taking all the ground one turn before the end. I didn't expect this, as in BiN the AI gave me a much harder time. Probably it was also very useful to know the game mechanics somewhat

What happened was that the AI was counter attacking my landing forces after turn 3 and inflicted quite a lot of damage to the US forces. For whatever reason it didn't garrison critical crossroads in the hilly mountains and I used the British to cut off the HG and 15th PzGren. I also sent in a gamey move two engineer units over an open road towards Palermo and demolishing bridges along the north coast and on their way back to the US line in the south. Coupled with air interdiction the Axis forces were out of supply. Still it took a lot of time and almost all allied forces to kill the German divisions. I didn't make much progress on the coasts at all.

Once I completed the other two scenarios as Allied player I'll go back and replay Sicily for the Axis. Overall I like the size of the operation and involved unit mix.

Torsten

[Moltke71]

Is it just me or is shore bombardment less effective here than in BiN?

[Fred98]

Its the same

The different classes of ships have the same odds as did that class in BIN

[Blond_Knight]

I finished my first game today playing the threadbare Wehrmacht in the Husky scenario against the AI and fought a well coordinated withdrawl across Sicily, making a stand around the volcano for a few turns.
Eventually I retreated to the straits and held there, winning by over 850 points!
Did I do very well or is this to be expected?