New map revision, Request For Comments. UPDATE 05-08-16 Base data

[Andrew Brown]

Hi all,

I am about to start a new update of my alternative War in the Pacific game map. I already have a few things in mind for this update, although nothing is certain at this stage. Some of the things I am already planning to change are:

• Downgrade the central railway in Malaya (running from Kota Bharu to the Southwest). This line was a low capacity line that the Japanese did not make a lot of use of during the Malaya campaign (as far as I am aware), so I intend to downgrade it to either a road or a trail.
• Add a trail between Kuantan and Mersing in Malaya. The Japanese advanced along this route during the Malaya campaign, so it should at least be possible to do that in the game as well.
• Downgrade some of the roads in Norther China to trails: specifically the roads to the North of Yenen.
• Make some other changes to the transport links in China (research not yet completed).
• Replace the Chandpur and Cox's Bazaar bases with the port of Chittagong.
• Add several new bases in India: Cuttack, Poona, Agra, Cawnpore plua a few others.
• Some minor alterations to the Indian rail/transport network.
• Remove the "river" between Hong Kong and the rest of China, and make HK an urban hex. This will need some playtsting first to see whether it is a viable change.
• Make it impossible for ships to land/pickup LCUs in coastal swamp hexes, unless the hex contains a base.
• Move some of the base and location names around to position them better (cosmetic change).
• Change the name "Sulawesi" to "Celebes" (cosmetic change).
• Rename a few more bases in the DEI to Dutch period names, instead of moderne ones.

2005-08-03: I have now posted an updated list of changes further down in this thread.

This could be the last update for a while (or the last update), so I want to get it right - or as right as possible anyway.

If anyone has any comments at all to make about my map and what could be added/changed/improved, now is the time to let me know. I think that there are a few things that people have already pointed out to me that I have forgotten. Please add any comments you may have here.

Thanks,
Andrew

[mc3744]

I only have one comment: it's a GREAT map as it is [:)]

Can't wait to have it even better [:D]

[Tanaka]

Id like to request that the canal hexes be made into shallow water hexes...

[Bradley7735]

I would like a version that has the lines for the Malaria zones (remember to include Norfolk Is), but NOT the lines for zones and regions.

I play CHS, so it'd have to be that one.

But, I'm happy with your may as is, so don't do it unless others want it (or you want it)

[Lemurs!]

I would like some kind of link between Victoria Point and the rest of the world.
Trail would be fine if not a road.

Was Tavoy really that hard to get to from Bangkok?

How about a trail from Lamon Bay to the hex directly below it?
It would be accurate.

Thanks,
Mike

[Bradley7735]

Hi Andrew,

I don't know if you want to copy Subchaser's thing with the symbols at bases to identify factories and stuff. That's something I'd like to see.

bc

[CobraAus]

Hi mate to facilitate the introduction of Russian Pacific fleet ships into CHS I would request a new base created in Russia called Petropavlovsk it was the home port of the Pac Fleet see map attached for location
It was I think about a size 6 port with ship repair facilities
if you can do this I will se if I can find more details on it

Cobra Aus

[jwilkerson]

I'd like to help out with the China research ... and I still contemplate the trails between Bankok and Moulmein ...

[Mr.Frag]

Love to see a little (i) or something to make it easier to spot bases that have some form of industry for Japan that needs to be cared for and fed.

[bradfordkay]

Andrew, I'm not sure that I see the need to add Chittagong. I always figured that it was abstracted into the Chandpur hex. Is Chittagong further away form Chandpur than 60 miles? Everything else sounds great!

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Andrew, I'm not sure that I see the need to add Chittagong. I always figured that it was abstracted into the Chandpur hex. Is Chittagong further away form Chandpur than 60 miles? Everything else sounds great!

Chittagong will probably replace Chandpur, and I will probably also tweak the map a little to make it align more easily with the hexes in this area (currently places such as Chittagong are located on hex boundaries when lined up with my map).

Andrew

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Andrew, I'm not sure that I see the need to add Chittagong. I always figured that it was abstracted into the Chandpur hex. Is Chittagong further away form Chandpur than 60 miles? Everything else sounds great!

Chittagong will probably replace Chandpur, and I will probably also tweak the map a little to make it align more easily with the hexes in this area (currently places such as Chittagong are located on hex boundaries when lined up with my map).

Andrew

Hi,

renaming it Chittagong would be nice because Chandpur apparently had no real importance as a military port during WW2. All sources only talk about Chittagong and Indian garrison forces were always deployed there.

As I wrote to you elswhere I'ld like to see the inclusion of Poona and Cuttack (and maybe additionally of Raipur). Even now Indian cities seem to be a little bit underrepresented.

Railways and Roads in India: Currently you have a railway line starting east of Nagpur connecting to the railway between Bhopal and Delhi. I have not found this railway (or a major highway) in this area. And if you'ld want to include Poona the railway junction east of Bombay (the rr to Panaji) should be located one hex eastward (at Poona). And are you sure that there was a trail along the coast between Bombay and Panaji?

Another proposal: What about some small ports/beaches in Australia and New Zealand (Picton, Invercargill, Whangarei, Gisborne, Gladstone, Maryborough, Mackay, Taree and such places). Making all of them (0)/(0) hexes (maybe Invercargill with a level 1 port already build)

K

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

Chittagong will probably replace Chandpur...

Andrew

Will this make Chittagong invisible to the AI (and hence immune to attack)?

[m10bob]

Purely for cosmetic/historical "flavor",I would eventually like to see "The Bungo Straits" and "Kokoda".If not for historical reasons,as points of interest..

[Bradley7735]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Purely for cosmetic/historical "flavor",I would eventually like to see "The Bungo Straits" and "Kokoda".If not for historical reasons,as points of interest..

You're talking about text on the map, right? If so, I agree with you as long as it doesn't clutter up the map too much. In general, I'd like to see more text on the map (base names and m10bob's suggestions), but only to the extent that the visual pleasure of the map is not compromised. (and it is VERY pleasing to the eyes right now.)

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Purely for cosmetic/historical "flavor",I would eventually like to see "The Bungo Straits" and "Kokoda".If not for historical reasons,as points of interest..

You're talking about text on the map, right? If so, I agree with you as long as it doesn't clutter up the map too much. In general, I'd like to see more text on the map (base names and m10bob's suggestions), but only to the extent that the visual pleasure of the map is not compromised. (and it is VERY pleasing to the eyes right now.)

I am going to put some more text on the map in places such as straits and minor seas, although I don't want to clutter up the map too much either.

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: CobraAus

Hi mate to facilitate the introduction of Russian Pacific fleet ships into CHS I would request a new base created in Russia called Petropavlovsk it was the home port of the Pac Fleet see map attached for location
It was I think about a size 6 port with ship repair facilities
if you can do this I will se if I can find more details on it

Cobra Aus

Petroplavosk is already on the map - or are you thinking of another location with the same or similar name?

[doktorblood]

Are there any rivers on New Guinea or Australia?

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: doktorblood

Are there any rivers on New Guinea or Australia?

Both New Guinea and Australia have rivers on my map. Not many in Australia, but then it doesn't have many large rivers.

[Tanaka]

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: doktorblood

Are there any rivers on New Guinea or Australia?

Both New Guinea and Australia have rivers on my map. Not many in Australia, but then it doesn't have many large rivers.

regarding river terrain:

curious but arent these all similiar situations???

hong kong
singapore
corrigador

all protected by water crossings in some way???

i guess thats why i see them as all needing river type terrain to cross into....