CHS - Extended Map Play

[Jim D Burns]

ORIGINAL: treespider

It wasn't until later that I remembered I was the Japanese and that we neither retreat nor surrender. Had it been an Allied unit the jig would probably have been up.

Exactly, had I attacked my disorganization and fatigue would have gone up as well and there was no hope of causing a retreat or surrender.

I knew there were other Divisions afloat out there somewhere and were he to land a division the next or same turn, boom say goodbye to Luzon. Better to play it safe than lose just trying to kill a few extra squads. Had there been some hope of causing the units to surrender, then perhaps I would have taken the chance, but the PI is far weaker in CHS than it is in standard WitP, so caution won out at Naga.

Now I know this flies in the face of the aggressive move I made at Lingayan, but beer o’clock is and will remain my only defense on that move.[8|]

Jim

[Jim D Burns]

12-17-41

Allied Patrol Craft drop depth charges on I-158 just west of the Sunda straight. The sub was reported hit, but the severity of the damage caused is unknown.

Japanese troops land on the unoccupied base of Jolo Island, the base is expected to fall next turn.

Another Japanese air attack on Singapore this turn. The raid destroyed a few planes and caused light damage to the facilities there.

In my other (standard WitP) PBEM game, my opponent was able to close the airfield permanently with a single air strike of this size. I like the reduced effect with the changed bomb loads in CHS, closing an air base has more of a campaign feel to it. Too bad Matrix can’t simply reduce the effect air strikes have rather than forcing non-historical bomb loads to be implemented in order to get the desired (more realistic) results.
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 11
Ki-21-II Sally x 50
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 24 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
11 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
6 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
5 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
2 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 12000 feet
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For the second day in a row, zeros from Manado sweep the skies above Amboina, leading allied planners to believe the next Japanese hammer will probably fall here.

Another large air strike on Manila continues to pick away at allied fighter strength in Luzon.
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
G3M Nell x 36

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
16 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet

Wirraways out of Rabaul hit another Japanese ship near Kavieng, continuing to show how training grade aircraft can be of at least some use if used creatively. The Hudsons have yet to hit a thing, but pilots are gaining invaluable experience that will soon translate into sunken Japanese shipping.
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kavieng at 62,88


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Hudson I x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Kinrei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Kenryu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet

Japanese troops land at Gasmata this turn (the base will fall next turn), tightening the ever shrinking noose on Rabaul.

Japanese Kates jump an already stricken AP east of Morotai landing 7 bombs into the tough ship. After sustaining multiple air attacks since the outbreak of war, the resilient President Harrison soldiers on making some small headway at its current best speed of 1 knot. Heavy fire and float damage sustained after this last attack will probably spell the ships doom.

Several allied air attacks on the Japanese shipping at Kuantan fail to score any hits as large Japanese combat air patrols break up the strikes. Many allied aircraft are damaged or destroyed in the attempted strikes.

Allied fortress troops repulse Japans assault on Georgetown, though Japanese engineers manage to reduce the fortifications significantly. The base is expected to fall next turn.
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Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28509 troops, 356 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2682 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3


Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 6



Japanese amphibious troops capture Kuantan and force the base force to retreat west onto the rail line. Heavier allied units had been evacuated by sea prior to the landings to help bolster the defense of Singapore.

Jim

[treespider]

12/16/41

Wirraways flying out of Rabaul sink a Japanese MSW that was escorting a small transport ship. The small task force is headed southeast into the “slot”, possibly to land at another unoccupied base there.

12/17/41

Wirraways out of Rabaul hit another Japanese ship near Kavieng, continuing to show how training grade aircraft can be of at least some use if used creatively. The Hudsons have yet to hit a thing, but pilots are gaining invaluable experience that will soon translate into sunken Japanese shipping.

These damn planes have been the biggest pain in the arse for me. The other problem is....short of bringing in CV's there are no existing airbases to speak of in an around Rabaul from which to provide aircover. Practically everything needs to be built from the ground up. I know Jim would just love for me to waste KB striking Rabaul, but they have bigger fish to fry.

Forest

[Lemurs!]

On the aircraft bombloads, i did not make any loads ahistorically small for the sake of the system.

More or less our main design goal was to create a more historical game rather than the scn 15 Matrix gave us.

So the low bomb loads on planes like the KI-48 are accurate; several people will post that a KI-48 could carry 1764lbs of bombs as a max load but that is not really correct. The Ki-48 only carried that large of a load as a Kamikaze with less fuel, only 2 crew and 1 defensive MG.

I am actually thinking about lowering American heavy bombers a bit more, I have found virtually no cases where they carried the huge manufacturer listed bombloads.

The B29 was listed as 20,000lbs but it could only lift that with a reduced crew, all but two defensive guns removed and with a max altitude of 15,000ft.

Mike

[Jim D Burns]

12-18-41

A Japanese surface group sails into Brunei in northeast Borneo and catches a small AK loading supplies sending it to the bottom.

Japanese sub I-153 puts a torpedo into the tanker Ven-Koh northwest of the Sunda straight. Japan is finding ripe pickings in and around these straights.

Japan conducts multiple air strikes on Singapore destroying many allied aircraft on the ground and causing heavy damage to the base. Although Japan encounters no air opposition over the base, allied AAA fire proves very effective destroying and damaging several low flying Lilys and damaging many of the higher altitude Nells.

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 19
Ki-48-I Lily x 21

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 6 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 105
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 26
Ki-21-II Sally x 22
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 35 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed
Hudson I: 3 destroyed
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
14 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
13 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet

50 Betty bombers strike Manila causing light damage to the base. No allied fighter rose to oppose the raid.

Rabaul Wirraways again make themselves felt by landing a 250 lb bomb into Japanese AK Tokiwa Maru near Kavieng. With results like these occurring every day, Japan is being subjected to the allied ‘death by a thousand cuts’ strategy. Many small but painful cuts administered all over the body can prove just as deadly as a single sword stoke through the heart, it just takes longer and hurts a lot more. [:D][:D][:D]

Japanese Idas strafe Manila harbor causing heavy damage to two PT boats.

Japanese sub I-156 puts 3 torpedoes into the tanker Sloi northwest of the Sunda straights. Although the replay showed the tanker as sinking, it was still afloat during my orders phase. I hope we haven’t lapsed into a sync problem again, we have been using Japans Combat reports file every turn so if we have, we may have a serious problem. Hopefully it’s just fog of war.

For a ship having been reported to have taken 3 torpedoes and then sinking, the Sloi is in remarkably good shape. My guess is the skipper of the sub miss-reported the hits and sinking and the ship only took 1 torpedo, I hope it’s not a sync problem.



A Japanese assault on Naga is repulsed, but the engineers reduce fortifications there to level 1.

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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50433 troops, 522 guns, 43 vehicles

Defending force 18485 troops, 80 guns, 64 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 1)


Japanese ground losses:
838 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
382 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 1



Georgetown is stormed and taken at 706-1 odds. 2814 allied prisoners are marched off to prison camps.

Japan captures the unoccupied bases of Jolo Is. and Gasmata.

Jim

[treespider]

Rabaul Wirraways again make themselves felt by landing a 250 lb bomb into Japanese AK Tokiwa Maru near Kavieng. With results like these occurring every day, Japan is being subjected to the allied ‘death by a thousand cuts’ strategy. Many small but painful cuts administered all over the body can prove just as deadly as a single sword stoke through the heart, it just takes longer and hurts a lot more.

IMO I'm going to die anyway...so let's at least make it interesting. Plus it makes for a great read in the papers back in Brisbane.

[treespider]

I've posted this elsewhere in the forum...

JBurns and myself are experiencing a serious sync problem...the latest manisfestaion ...

He observed a strike on the CA Houston by Japanese CV A/C that did not take place in my replay. In My replay his CA was covered by clouds in the AM and I was covered by clouds in the PM and my planes never flew.

JBurns also reported other anaomalies since the start with this being the most severe. This morning we double checked our files and all of the dates matched as follows:

Pwhex.dat…..3/26/2005
War in the Pacific.exe…..6/20/2005
6/19/2005 for these….
Scen\
wps155.dat
wpp155.dat
wpl155.dat
wph155.dat
wpg155.dat
wpd155.dat
wpc155.dat
wpa155.dat
scn155.cmt…..6/21/2005
cam155.dat…..6/17/2005

In addition this game was started post patch. IMO something like this makes PBEM unplayable...

Treespider

[Jim D Burns]

12-19-41

Well I managed to confirm we are still getting the out of sync issues this turn. I overwrite the combat reports .txt file each turn with the Japanese one that Treespider sends me, so obviously this doesn’t fix the sync issues. This turn I witnessed a CV strike hit my CA Houston, but that attack never even occurred. Good news this time, but I’m waiting for the turn where my ships come up missing or damaged and I have no idea what caused it.

Anyway here’s what I think happened this turn:

Japanese ships bombard Butuan and Brunei causing light damage to both. Kuching is also bombarded and the coastal guns there landed a single hit on a Japanese DD. Damage to the facilities were light.

Both Johore Bahru and Singapore airfields are struck by Japanese air strikes. The tide has turned in Malaya and Japan has won air superiority. Allied planes are beginning to pull out in the face of repeated punishing attacks.

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Day Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 22,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-48-I Lily x 24

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Wirraway: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
10 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 76
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 33
Ki-21-II Sally x 20

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 6 destroyed, 26 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
6 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
1 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet

Zeros continue their sweeps of Amboina.

Wirraways from Rabaul slam the Japanese AK Shoko Maru with a bomb this turn.

Japanese dive bombers and fighters pounce the allied AK Siantar in Manila harbor and land 8 shell hits and 4 bombs into the freighter as it tries to off-load supplies into the port. Having achieved air superiority in Luzon as well, no allied fighter air cover was available to defend the stricken ship.

Japanese ground troops continue their bombardment campaign at Naga causing very light damage.

Allied spotter aircraft on Borneo have sighted several Japanese surface groups converging on the large island from several directions. It appears Japan is going to coordinate several landings at once to try and dilute the effect of allied air strength in the area. Here's a heavily censored image of the Borneo area:




Jim:

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: treespider

I've posted this elsewhere in the forum...

JBurns and myself are experiencing a serious sync problem...the latest manisfestaion ...

He observed a strike on the CA Houston by Japanese CV A/C that did not take place in my replay. In My replay his CA was covered by clouds in the AM and I was covered by clouds in the PM and my planes never flew.

JBurns also reported other anaomalies since the start with this being the most severe. This morning we double checked our files and all of the dates matched as follows:

Pwhex.dat…..3/26/2005
War in the Pacific.exe…..6/20/2005
6/19/2005 for these….
Scen\
wps155.dat
wpp155.dat
wpl155.dat
wph155.dat
wpg155.dat
wpd155.dat
wpc155.dat
wpa155.dat
scn155.cmt…..6/21/2005
cam155.dat…..6/17/2005

In addition this game was started post patch. IMO something like this makes PBEM unplayable...

Treespider

Had the very same thing happen in every PBEM I've played (as Allied). The Allied player get's frustrated because it is his replay which is always true or false...the IJN replay is the master. The problem is widespread.

[Jim D Burns]

12-20-41

A Japanese cruiser force and allied PT boats engage in one of the longest series of night actions I’ve ever seen in WitP. Five separate engagements occurred between the two forces one right after the other, finally resulting in the destruction off all allied PT boats with very minor damage inflicted on the Japanese.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 2
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 4
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-41, Shell hits 1
PT Q 111
PT Q 114
PT Q 115

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-41, Shell hits 108, and is sunk
PT Q 111
PT Q 114
PT Q 115, Shell hits 35, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
PT Q 111
PT Q 114, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
PT Q 111

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
PT Q 111, Shell hits 6, and is sunk


Japanese naval forces bombard Miri causing very light damage. A battleship squadron bombards Kuching causing moderate damage there.

Japanese troops land at Sorong and Kuching. Later in the turn Japanese troops also landed at Butuan and Nauru Island.

Japanese sub I-162 puts 2 torpedoes into the tanker George G Henry just south of Balikpapan and sends it and its precious cargo of oil to the bottom.

Two large Japanese air raids strike Johore Bahru in Malaya causing moderate overall damage.

A very large unescorted Japanese air raid hits Rabaul, but the now veteran Wirraway pilots rise to meet the bombers and break up the formation. Although no bombers were shot down, many were damaged and the raid caused very little damage.

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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 62,90

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 79
G4M1 Betty x 23

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 12 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet

And just to show they were unaffected by the raid, the heroic Wirraway pilots put another bomb into an AK near Kavieng. Treespider must HATE these guys by now. [:D][:D]

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kavieng at 62,88


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Hudson I x 1


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Tokiwa Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Gosyu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
1 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet

Japanese surface units are detected northeast of Palembang at the little island of Singkep, Japan pays the price for bringing naval units so close to allied land based air and the CL Sendai gets an 18 inch torpedo smacked into its mid section.

Several other allied strikes fail to locate the ships due to inclement weather and still more miss completely. With overcast weather predicted for tomorrow, better results are to be expected should the Japanese remain in the area.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Singkep at 22,53


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 6
Wirraway x 4
Buffalo I x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki
CL Sendai, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
6 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet



In another attempt to close Rabaul, Japanese planners have brought in a battleship task force to bombard the base. Results against the facilities there were light and the air groups were unaffected.

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Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 62,90


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
CA Kako
CA Furutaka


Allied ground losses:
244 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 4


Japan continues to bombard Naga with its two Infantry divisions there, achieving limited results.

An overwhelming assault at San Marcelino drives out the static base force unit and captures the base for Japan.

Japan captures Taiping and Nauru Island.

Jim

[Jim D Burns]

Due to the problem with the India Command HQ and Australian command HQ, we are discontinuing this game. We will commence a new game once the CHS crew patches things up.

Here's the thread discussing the issues with the two HQ's and the units assigned to them:

tm.asp?m=895787

Jim

[Tanaka]

Did u guys see this thread about the snyc issues???

tm.asp?m=885607