New enlistment age

[Tophat]

ORIGINAL: Twotribes

The only people claiming we need a draft is the moonbat left. They want a draft so they can stir up a protest based on people being drafted.

I guess you missed the latest where one of the moonbat left claimed America has a mercenary Army because it is all volunteer and quite capable.

Actually,
I think universal service,no exceptions no exemptions for atleast a 1 year stint so "everyone" is basically trained and familiar with methods and equitment would be a smart idea. After all we are all in this together. This isn't cosmetic,or lip service but a way to show every citizen we all have responsabilities.
The left should love it,rich boys as well as opinionated loudmouths are treated the same!

[AlexCobra]

I also heard that 25% of all people trying to enlist are rejected for a reason. Anyone want to guess the reason?

Hi!

Just sounds so weird to my ears. People, who want to go on military service, ARE rejected!! Well, come to my country, became a citizen of it, and you can be sure - you can't be drafted to the army only if you got no legs or arms... and even in that case they'll study you v-e-r-y close - just to make sure of it. Here we learn the art of 'evading the army service', kinda competition in skills between potential soldiers and man, who are responsible for draft. So you just should be quit happy with your service system, that's what I mean all in all. Btw, max draft age here is 28.

Alex.

[riley555a]

Just so you all know real war isn't glory like the war movies on your home shelves that are stamped and requested to be made by the U.S. military. I know some you are naive and think it's an exciting prospect with honor and glory but it isn't, never has been, never will be.

[rockmedic109]

I could never pass a physical.

Hepatitis B {15 years ago} and lingering effects from being run over by a parked truck would assure my failure in the attempt.

Of course, if they told me I had to be able to do 2 pushups and 3 situps in the same week, I wouldn't make the cut.

[mogami]

ORIGINAL: riley555

Just so you all know real war isn't glory like the war movies on your home shelves that are stamped and requested to be made by the U.S. military. I know some you are naive and think it's an exciting prospect with honor and glory but it isn't, never has been, never will be.

Hi, I knew all that and still I could never stand not to go when the balloon went up. From 17 to 37 everytime the USA went into combat I re-enlisted and then got out when it was over. I tried to get back in after 911 but could not get my blood pressure down enough. (Broke my heart) It was never about honor or glory. I just can't stand to be on the street when the US military is commited. The 42 is only for first timers. You can retread as long as you can do 20 before your 55. (I have one more year to get back in)

[Tophat]

ORIGINAL: riley555

Just so you all know real war isn't glory like the war movies on your home shelves that are stamped and requested to be made by the U.S. military. I know some you are naive and think it's an exciting prospect with honor and glory but it isn't, never has been, never will be.

Honor and glory? I'm talking about having a somewhat semi-trained large base of personel to draw from. Also if you shove a weapon in someones hands a quick lesson in reality usually follows.

[jwilkerson]

ORIGINAL: Tophat

ORIGINAL: riley555

Just so you all know real war isn't glory like the war movies on your home shelves that are stamped and requested to be made by the U.S. military. I know some you are naive and think it's an exciting prospect with honor and glory but it isn't, never has been, never will be.

Honor and glory? I'm talking about having a somewhat semi-trained large base of personel to draw from. Also if you shove a weapon in someones hands a quick lesson in reality usually follows.

Yup ... I especially like the tale of the Victor Charlie who was part of a group which captured a jeep with a 90mm RCR aboard. They quickly "pointed" the weapon at their US enemies and "fired a round" ... unfortunately they had pointed the wrong end of the weapon at the "enemy" and one poor sod was blown to bits when the round exited "to the rear" of the weapon. But he certainly got a "quick lesson in reality" !!!

[testarossa]

I thought that being a combat engineer is about "fireworks", mines and all this other cool stuff with explosives. I got all that in due time, but we actually started from learning digging drainage ditches, building pontoon bridges and other engineering jobs (setting up latrines, connecting water pipes etc).

And officers were so dumb and self-satisfied. And Sikhs with their turbans were hilarious. When I asked Sarge if I can wear hockey helmet (Canadian national headgear) as another manifestation of multiculturalism, I thought he’s going to bury me right there. Obviously he didn’t like the idea with turbans at all.

It was good weekend sport. And riding M113A3 cross-country was exciting. It’s kinda fast and jumpy, so when it goes over the hill you get that feeling that it’s the last second of your life. And I got the grant for college too. [:D]

Later they selected some veterans, who really liked to walk over uncharted minefields and sent them to Bosnia or something.
But I quit already.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: riley555

Just so you all know real war isn't glory like the war movies on your home shelves that are stamped and requested to be made by the U.S. military. I know some you are naive and think it's an exciting prospect with honor and glory but it isn't, never has been, never will be.

Wow, he actually had the stones to show up here again...

[wild_Willie2]

Wow, he actually had the stones to show up here again...

Yeah, already thought about giving him my honest oppinion how I think about him [:@], but then the tread would just be closed due to " mudtrowing" [;)]

[DuckofTindalos]

He's posted in the "Opponents Wanted" sub-forum too.

[wild_Willie2]

He's posted in the "Opponents Wanted" sub-forum too.

Are you hinting at something here ?? [;)]

[wild_Willie2]

POST 700 [:D]

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

Are you hinting at something here ?? [;)]

I'm certainly not going to play that little putz; I'm already opposed to him.

[riley555a]

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[usersatch]

Which actually is quite stupid. When I joined the army in 93, I was 6'2" 235, 37 lbs over my "max allowable" weight. Problem was, my body fat (tested by calipers and body immersion) was around 13-15%. The tape test, the "accurate" piece of crap it is, had me at 23%! I passed (barely) and got in, but the god damned tape test followed me around til the day I ETS-ed. There are all sorts of people in the military who have guts and are overweight, but because their waist/neck ratio is just right, they have no problems passing. I sport(ed) lol a six-pack, maxed my PT test, got an award from the CG for having the squad with the best PT score in the entire 82d airborne division, but I was 23% fat???? The sooner that all the branches stop relying on that worthless test, the better.

No issues here with Army policy. [;)]

ORIGINAL: Graycompany

you got it,, to fat

[Graycompany]

yeah, i never did much care for that test, but ya know the service, somebody had to do something with spare time so why not invent something.

[rtrapasso]

and lingering effects from being run over by a parked truck

i hesistate to ask (but will anyway) - how does one get run over by a parked truck??[X(]

[DuckofTindalos]

I caught that one too, but was afraid to ask...[X(]

[wild_Willie2]

and lingering effects from being run over by a parked truck

sounds painfull, both physically AND mentally [;)]