enemy surrender

[mattyb]

Playing as Austria recently i had succesfully taken and occupied two provinces from Turkey, but alas the war dragged on for a very long time and my armies were whittled away. Still in a relativley strong position i tried to get turkey to surrender and cede at least one of the captured provinces. How do i do this. i tried throu the diplomatic screen using the turkey surrenders to austria option but it didnt work, is there another way or was i just to far gone and they realised i was slowly losing ground .At the time i had no troops in the captured provinces so does this count even thou they had the stripes throu them indicating captured. By the way bad outcome, at the end i ended up cedeing a province.
Any help on forcing enemies to surrnder greatly appreciated as this also happened with france having to cede two provinces.

[siRkid]

I do not know of any trigger or diplomatic way to make it happen. I think its based on the country’s moral (enemy). So, cause as much damage as you can and take a few cities/provinces. I always put troops in the captured cities. Also, send a diplomat into the enemy’s capital and have him pressure for peace. Hope this helps.

[mattyb]

is there any advantage to pressuring for peace or is it like a ceasefire or is it like forcing a surrender

[siRkid]

I'm not sure. We'll have to wait for an answer from someone more experience.

[carnifex]

A nation generally won't surrender to you unless you take it's capitol for a couple of turns. Otherwise you have to beat the hell out of it, killing armies and fleets and taking several provinces. Check the nation status screen for enemy morale - when it get's very low they will offer surrender. Pressure for peace is lose 60 money or some glory to stay at war - it won't trigger a surrender.

[mattyb]

that makes defeating turkey a bit of a problem, ill have to rethink my strategy. thnx

[Ralegh]

The AI can choose to make an offer of surrender. It usually does so as a result of a very unfavourable comparison of forces (ie. it aint got an army left). Remember that if the AI is at war with a group of allies, it would have to surrender to all of you, and may not be willing to surrender to one of you...

It is a FRF (frequently requested feature) to be able to negotiate a peace with someone you are at war with - whether involving a surrender or not. I sure know that sometimes I would be willing to surrender if I knew what the terms were going to be - and other times when I would have accepted a cease fire if the pot had been sweetened by the freeing of the minor I wanted.

The only dependable way to end a war is to put unbesieged forces into the enemy capital, and drop his morale until insurrectionists force surrender - but they will force a surrender to a random enemy, not necessarily the person seiging/occupying the capital, so even this might take a while.

But capturing his whole army can help too. [To capture an army, have forces of yours - not in garrison, but a single division will do - in every neighbouring area they could retreat to, and win the battle. Without a valid retreat route, the whole army surrenders.]

[Queeg]

Playing as GB, I had France offer surrender to me after I destroyed about 3/4 of its navy in a series of battles. No land battles at all; only sea battles. One of the great things about the diplomacy system is that I was able to fashion a peace treaty appropriate to the situation: France scuttled the rest of its navy, released all its protectorates on the Channel and gave up half its colonies. A naval victory and a naval peace.