Initial Impressions of a Noob

[Gun Nut]

The kurz is only 33mm long casing and a bullet diameter of 7.92 7.62 M80 is not that heavy and light recoil compared to the old British No 4 mk1 firing that was fun but it is no way compared to the .308 Springfield Armory M1A and if it is heavy it might be teh 20 round mag in it hehe, hell if the .308 was updated by our military over here we wouldn't need a 5.56x45mm M855/SS109 round, of course the 5.56 is a whole other topic when compared to the 7.62 M80. you need to fire a .300 Win Mag (7.62x66mm) or a 7mm Rem Mag (7x66mm). no I just suggest trying out a old .50 cal (12.7x99mm!) [:D] those babies got power!

Btw what are the gun laws like in Denmark anyways? you get access to any semiautomatic high caliber military rifles? I used to live in Nova Scotia Canada and I couldn't buy legal 10 round clips for my SKS 45 they had to be 5 round .

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Gun Nut

Btw what are the gun laws like in Denmark anyways? you get access to any semiautomatic high caliber military rifles?

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I'm sorry, I had to wipe my screen and keyboard clean. That was a good one.

I fired the G3 in the Army.

[Gun Nut]

Hehe Yeah military is a great experience, what what Machine Guns does Denmark employ? I'm guessing some variant of the Fabrique Nationale Minimi I don't know what they call it over there but here they call it the M249, Canadian military calls it the C9.

[DuckofTindalos]

Nope, good old MG3. Nowadays, the Danish Army service rifle is the M95 (Canadian C7). They also have the M2HB heavy machinegun.

[Gun Nut]

If i'm not mistaken the MG3 is a remake of the old MG-42 but chambered for 7.62 Nato, and I imagine it still has that 1200 RPM hehe.

[DuckofTindalos]

Yup. Never tried firing one, but the sound it makes...[X(]

[Gun Nut]

Yeah I believe it was nicknamed Hitler's buzzsaw ^_^

[DuckofTindalos]

Just shows how good the design was, when it's still being used today.

[Gun Nut]

Yeah I do believe the MG-34 was the first General Purpose Machinegun but the MG-42 was the first effective General Purpose Machinegun! lol I think they have some sort of AA quad MG3's now, lol that is overkill! [:D]

[DuckofTindalos]

Heh! And quad .50-cals weren't?

[Gun Nut]

Oh no a .50 cal round is overkill on a human being but the Rate of fire is a bit slow around 450-650 unlike the AC-130U "Spooky and the MG-42,3. (Spooky is a converted Lockheed C-130 Hercules assault transport for you guys who don't know ^_^) it a has a few 25mm Gatlings with 5 barrels putting out 1800 rounds per minute that is firepower. Most of the Apaches and super cobras we got in them have chips so they don't fire over a 1000 rpm, but that thing is a suped up Puff the magic dragon even has a 105mm Howitzer on it! [:D]

[IBTyrone]

ORIGINAL: haruntaiwan

I think once I learn more about how to play the game, the Italians will be a fine challenge.

With the Americans I'm learning how to be a little more sneaky in unit placement and enticing those tanks to traps where I can maybe hit them.

I do so love the sound of 3 shells plonking off the armor and realizing I only have MG fire left. (But you now have the tank fully targeted at 97% chance.) Once in while you do get lucky and, yeah, the bazooka teams sometimes do work...It's quite satisfying when they finally take down a tank. German tank crews tend to be killed with no mercy though.

Before you get too attached to those bazookas, Haruntaiwan--the Italians don't get them, at least pre-armstice. The best they have for infantry-based AT weapons is gas bombs. Ugh. The Para Libicis are about as good as it gets there, and after that, it goes downhill in a hurry.

[DuckofTindalos]

Almost avalanche-like...[;)]

[IBTyrone]

ORIGINAL: Gun Nut

That site is quite informative on the italians I believe the french were also about the same level as the Italians it's just hard to stop a million and a half men when they go through Belgium past your static line of defence (Maginot Line).

But it is funny looking at their old ww2 service guns they always liked to make strange firearms, hell it is even thought of that they invented the first assault rifle the "Cei-Rigotti" though very little info exsists to prove that .The first"military service assault rifle" the Russian Federov Avtomat which only about 3000 were produced and it fired the old Japanese Japanese Arisaka 6.5×50 mm rifle cartridge. Now the germans they just perfected it with the Sturmgewehr 44 7.92x33mm Kurz "short". [:D].

Yeah, the comandosupremo site is usually the first place I go when looking for information on the Italians. French tanks were actually a *lot* better than their Italian counterparts at the start of the war. The Somua and in particular, the Char B even gave German tanks a run for their money. I just don't think the French had enough of them or placed them well enough to stop the Germans. And the French did stop the Italians cold when they decided to jump in and get some of the spoils. The Italians couldn't bypass their end of the Maginot line on the French border so they got a black eye internationally cause their million man army couldn't deliver the goods when it came to prime time. [;)]

As far as weaponry, the Italians seem to do alright. Their MAB submachine gun was pretty good and their 90mm AA gun was good as well. Can't speak for much else.

[DuckofTindalos]

Erm, the Italians didn't have to pass the Maginot line, but the Alps on the Italian-French border...

[Puukkoo]

Yes. Italians have 20mm Solothurn AT-rifles. They can drop off light British tanks, but Mathildas will most likely wreak havoc at Italian lines. Italians have also a theoretical chance to assault a tank with an engineer squad, but this is a rumor.

I had canucks on delaying action against Italian advance and won easily. I didn't lose a single soldier in that fight. (I just think that long campaigns are for those who want to humiliate the computer opponent).

[DuckofTindalos]

I particularly like the sound file assigned to the Solothurns. Heard it for the first time while playing the Desert Fox MC.

[Gun Nut]

It would be damn hard for a person to play PBEM as italy against the americans or even the axis, I mean 2 platoons of Tiger 2s would be a problem but a company hell the Japs had better tanks than the italians lol.

[Puukkoo]

Italian player could still put his engineers to create a minefield. There is still a relatively good chance for the Italian side to win a defensive battle. I have never tried to attack as Italians, perhaps I try someday.

[Gun Nut]

Well today Italy is doing bad I can't believe the american government chose the Italian Beretta M92FS as our standard sidearm we should be using the old .45 at least it can actually stop you dead in your tracks the 9mm/.35 has stopping power similar a tiny bit better than a .22LR, when it is a FMJ 124 M882 grain round that is I have ran tests with CorBon 115 grain self defense JHP ammo. that would drop you pretty quick always expands at least 3/4s if not all of it coming out of a 5 inch barrel even has a velocity of about 1400fps. Usually leaves behind fragments of the jacket in your body . The only reason why my beloved Sig Sauer P226 didn't get chosen at the XM Trials was because of it's price.[:@]

You know what the Navy Seals say "You're not a navy seal until you tasted italian steel [:D]" That saying exsists cause it is known to blow up in your face I think there was 3 reported cases of it.

I love firearms as much as I love military history just a crazy person haha.