Question regarding supply levels in the USA

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: AlaskanWarrior

Melbourne to San Francisco using the Great Circle Route is 6829nm, or about 40 days steaming at 7kts or 26 days at 11 kts. For those of use unfamiliar with the term Great Circle Route, the Great Circle Routes are the most direct routes between two points on a globe. Giving a 10 day turn around , it would take 90 days to complete a round trip voyage at 7, or 66 days a 11. Add occassional refitting, maintanence, etc. and I can very well see why most AK's probably made only 3 trips a year.

Richard

Wouldn't a great circle route from SF to Melbourne take them through Japanese held territory? They would have to detour through safe waters?

[akdreemer]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: AlaskanWarrior

Melbourne to San Francisco using the Great Circle Route is 6829nm, or about 40 days steaming at 7kts or 26 days at 11 kts. For those of use unfamiliar with the term Great Circle Route, the Great Circle Routes are the most direct routes between two points on a globe. Giving a 10 day turn around , it would take 90 days to complete a round trip voyage at 7, or 66 days a 11. Add occassional refitting, maintanence, etc. and I can very well see why most AK's probably made only 3 trips a year.

Richard

Wouldn't a great circle route from SF to Melbourne take them through Japanese held territory? They would have to detour through safe waters?

Yup, so the course would be longer... The above is best case..

[Nikademus]

Daily supply values:
San Francisco: 12500/12500
Karachi: 3750/2250.

Supply situation as of 6/45

(Supply/fuel)

Supply generators

Karachi: 977760/961187
San Francisco: 272421/646360

Hotspot/forward bases by theater

Southeast Asia

Singapore: 9965/706867
Rangoon: 30839/999999
Georgetown: 3845/814934


SouthPacific

Noumea: 65588/0
Luganaville: 55571/35595

SouthWest Pacific

Port Morosby: 19761/9139
Buna: 18674
Admiralty Islands: 103423/23615
Biak: 40970
Menado: 38946/20556


Central Pacific

Pearl Harbor: 122687/47581
Kwajalein: 23984/24495
Eniwetok: 32506/27293
Guam: 15699/11948
Tinian: 20042

Saipan: 67254/29476
Ulithi: 57458
Davao: 3673/1765
Cagayan: 179252/28907



* - indicates supply shortage (orange warning indicator)
** - indicates severe supply shortage (red warning indicator)

Summary

Allied AI has advanced beyond Eniwetok, which itself has plenty of supply. SE Asia theater has completely re-conquored Malaya and the PI's have been invaded. (as of the current turn Iwo Jima is also under invasion but not yet captured)

At no front line point is supply in a state of shortage. Interestingly, SF has dipped below the max level but given the ample levels of supply located elsewhere (including the west coast cities....seattle 205745, LA - 318796) and including the biggest supply TF's at sea (over 750,000 supply points at sea not counting smaller supply TF's) I do not see a critical supply shortage being indicated by the current lowered daily supply adjustments.

[akdreemer]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Daily supply values:
San Francisco: 12500/12500
Karachi: 3750/2250.

Supply situation as of 6/45

(Supply/fuel)

Supply generators

Karachi: 977760/961187
San Francisco: 272421/646360

Hotspot/forward bases by theater

Southeast Asia

Singapore: 9965/706867
Rangoon: 30839/999999
Georgetown: 3845/814934


SouthPacific

Noumea: 65588/0
Luganaville: 55571/35595

SouthWest Pacific

Port Morosby: 19761/9139
Buna: 18674
Admiralty Islands: 103423/23615
Biak: 40970
Menado: 38946/20556


Central Pacific

Pearl Harbor: 122687/47581
Kwajalein: 23984/24495
Eniwetok: 32506/27293
Guam: 15699/11948
Tinian: 20042

Saipan: 67254/29476
Ulithi: 57458
Davao: 3673/1765
Cagayan: 179252/28907



* - indicates supply shortage (orange warning indicator)
** - indicates severe supply shortage (red warning indicator)

Summary

Allied AI has advanced beyond Eniwetok, which itself has plenty of supply. SE Asia theater has completely re-conquored Malaya and the PI's have been invaded. (as of the current turn Iwo Jima is also under invasion but not yet captured)

At no front line point is supply in a state of shortage. Interestingly, SF has dipped below the max level but given the ample levels of supply located elsewhere (including the west coast cities....seattle 205745, LA - 318796) and including the biggest supply TF's at sea (over 750,000 supply points at sea not counting smaller supply TF's) I do not see a critical supply shortage being indicated by the current lowered daily supply adjustments.

From one of your previous quotes you mentioned that the SW Pac offensive had stalled. Since historically there was a two pronged offensive to recapture the Phillipines it begs to question if there is indeed enough supplies.

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: AlaskanWarrior

From one of your previous quotes you mentioned that the SW Pac offensive had stalled. Since historically there was a two pronged offensive to recapture the Phillipines it begs to question if there is indeed enough supplies.

No, i never indicated that. I mentioned that the AI in the SWpac area appears to have stopped while the SoPac area never seemed to do much of anything....but it wasn't for lack of supplies. I chalk it up to a quirk in AI logic decisions and/or possibly the effects of non-logistical changes i've made in my specific mod (allowing the Japan AI to do a bit better in the Solomons...at least for this particular run). The game saw alot of quirky AI behavior, particularily in the SE asia and China theaters where the AI would conduct large scale offensives, then allow it's other half to retake those objectives due to insufficient garrisoning creating a pengelum effect.

As far as logistics go however, there was never at any point a shortage of supplies from the rear areas. As for this AI/AI game as a whole, comparing it to previous AI only games that i've run to the game's conclusion, (with unaltered supply), there is no substantial difference in the Allied AI's overall progress. In fact the only substantial difference was SE Asia where the Allied AI campaigned all the way back to Singapore, reclaiming the entire Malayan peninsula. Elsewhere the Allied AI is pretty much where it has ended up in the past by mid 45.